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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+63Well played, glad to see more people supporting net radio.
- Qumahlin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33I'm amazed that Yahoo got in on this. Bravo to them. The RIAA and co-horts know that these stations will never be able to pay these fees. They did this intentionally to kill off the little guys and profit off anyone who truly wants to remain.
- alexmayorga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+30Have you written to your representatives already?
- Easty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19So even Yahoo! is doing it, but last.fm isn't? Graagh.
Also, I wish I could help in some way, but I'm British :( - satx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11I literally get sick to my stomach everytime I think of the RIAA's decision.
I would like to take each and every person who approved of such nonsense and shove their faces into the concrete. - h4rdcor3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Pandora is also participating.
Didn't realize how much i used these services at work. Everyone contact your REPS!!!!! - hitsman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Great blog post with lots of background info on this debacle.
- JimmyRyan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Props to Yahoo! They didn't have to join the fight but they did.. We commend you!
- jimic79, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9So is WOXY. http://woxy.lala.com/ don't these freakin suits realize they end up making more money because of these radio stations? i hear new bands on woxy all the time... then i go buy their CDs, their shwag, their concert tickets, etc...
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+6I did, a while back, and here's the response I got (from Diane Feinstein):
Thank you for writing to me with your concerns about the Copyright Royalty Board's recent decision on the statutory rate for music webcasting. I understand your concerns and appreciate the opportunity to respond.
Under the Copyright Royalty and Distribution Reform Act of 2004, Congress - at the behest of webcasters - created the Copyright Royalty Board which consists of three judges. By law, the judges are a venue of last resort and are required to periodically set rates for various statutory copyright licenses in the event that webcasters and copyright owners are unable to reach voluntary agreements. In the absence of an agreement, the judges set a rate designed to approximate the fair-market value that webcasters should pay to artists and performers for streaming their music for the years 2006-2010. The new rate that was established is less than a 5 percent increase of the rate in effect from 1998-2005.
Although a few webcasters have recently claimed that the process was unfair, it was not arbitrary and allowed representatives from all sides to make their cases. The judges began the proceedings in 2005, and heard testimony from dozens of witnesses and conducted a comprehensive review of tens of thousands of pages of evidence submitted by all interested parties over an 18-month period.
While some webcasters may choose to pay this rate, independent negotiations between the parties are still possible and this new statutory rate would serve as the ceiling. Additionally, if it appears that the new rate will reduce the overall amount of webcasting - as well as the overall income from this stream of revenue - the copyright owners may still have an incentive to offer webcasters a rate less than the statutory rate.
I am a strong believer in intellectual property rights and believe that artists and performers have earned the right to be fairly compensated for the broadcast of their works by webcasters who benefit - financially and otherwise - from their talents. Without fair compensation, these artists would not create their works.
Once again, thank you for writing. Should legislation addressing this new rate or the rate-setting process come before the Senate, I will be sure to keep your concerns in mind. In the meantime, if you should have any additional questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, DC staff at (202) 224-3841. - billucf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Hopefully with Yahoo joining in more people will hear about the stupid things the RIAA is trying to do.
- coolant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Awesome for Yahoo to do this! I'm surprised hitzradio.com is still playing! Boo to them!
- MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Good to see there joining in the fight.
- liquidjamm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I fully support web casters and hope they will be able to draw enough attention and extend (potentially overturn) the due dates.
But another half of me thinks: would this open the way for European stations and allow more Americans to appreciate Euro-Dance?
/takes out his glow-sticks/ - hadak, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5DI.fm and Wazee.org are shut down too.
- digitaltrav, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4And it's not just Yahoo. Real/Rhapsody, Live365, MTV, SHOUTcast Showcase, Pandora, and countless other smaller but significant streams are ALL standing in solidarity. This is a huge deal, and it does shape the future of a LOT of people and their jobs. We need to work on changing this decision. It's truly disappointing that Sound Exchange can't do the right thing for once and set rates at a REASONABLE level, in which ad-revenue can ATLEAST break even. When the #1 streaming radio site (LAUNCHcast) can't even BREAK EVEN, then that's basically KILLING the chance for us to ever have free radio over the Internet. Ugh, so frustrating.
- HippyInASuit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4pandora.com is also issuing a day of silence.
- RedSirus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4So is last.fm. Maybe it feels it can't help either, since it's based in the UK.
As a Canadian, I really want to know how I can help with things like this. I've been keeping with this story for a while and always hearing "Call your representative. Make your voice heard." I have no "Representative" to contact, and I don't think my Member of Parliament can do much south of the border. - dWhisper, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Not just net radio, glad to see more people standing up against the idiocy of music industry pressure and resistance to modern technology. Dollars speak louder than anything else in this country, and when a big company like Yahoo! calls BS on some of the things being done, people will listen.
- hitsman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The rates they have to pay (set by a panel of judges) is set to triple. No one is arguing Internet radio shouldn't pay royalties. It's just the amounts that are ridiculous. By the way, terrestrial radio pays zilch in this area.
- Sharky35, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What is this Yahoo! thing mentioned in the article.
- XistenZ, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"Curb" them like in American History X.
- h4rdcor3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I love listening to trance while I study, nothing gay about it.
- SoxFanNH, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Typical ancient music industry trying to keep themselves in the game... is only a matter of time until the RIAA just fades away...
- lazyrussian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I listen to DI.FM religiously (DI.FM is also joining the day of silence) - even while I sleep. I'm dying here right now! I've already called a million times and petitioned and I've gotten a ton of friends to do so too. I hate you CRB!
Today has been hell - let's hope July 15th won't be.
Please go to savenetradio.org and call your representative! - celeb, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6they're
- hitsman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yeah, she sent me the same B.S. Not voting for her in the next election! The RIAA must be slipping her money.
- miketrin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Good job, what did you send them?
- realyst, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Power to all those who shut down today. I hope it helped raise awareness.
- uncledeercamp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2do something about it instead of bitching.
- h4rdcor3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yarnage, internet radio pays royalties just like everyone else. starting soon there will be an increase in the royalties that the stations have to pay the RIAA for playing the songs. It also changes the way that the royalties are calculated. The new working includes "stations". no on pandora there is an unlimited number of stations. I have 5 or 6 on there myself. For each station they have to pay so much money plus for each individual song. There are also changes in how the number of listeners is calculated so that there is a dramatic increase. All of this leads to more money for the RIAA, but stations will have to shut down because they can't afford the royalties. Yahoo! has even said that they can't afford the new price hikes and they are one of the major players out there.
Oh ya, this whole price hike is retroactive for the last 18 months. so even more money for the RIAA - antonio97b, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2swag*
- 2Bnor2B, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If you are taking the time to comment on this, please first go to http://www.savenetradio.org and get involved. There is a grass movement and legislation already proposed to stop this. Please help and voice your opinion to your your Congressional Representatives. Thanks.
- sgarciaDev, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Congrats to Yahoo for making this statement.
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hope you're watching last.fm...
- h4rdcor3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"IMHO I feel they are in cahoots with the major players in net radio, and have some kind of agreement to facilitate the major players, ultimate survival."
What the hell are you talking about?
The major players are Yahoo!, Pandora, and MTV, DI.fm and what are they all doing today? Oh thats right, SHUTTING OFF and telling people to contact their reps to get this thing overturned. - toxicvarn90, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Actually, even the big guys wouldn't even afford these outrageous prices.
- Neme, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1somafm.com is also down. Fight back!
- Gilart80, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yay, finally an alternative to Gay conventional radio stations, and a business model that bridges the MP3 pirating somewhat, and the dumbasses grind it to the dirt. I hope a bunch of artists go bankrupt or something.
- timo1023, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Pandora is, also. Figures, too. The one day I go to use it...
- mookieXL, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes, because synth sound and CG videos are much more gay than half naked rappers with dollar signs around neck or whining boys wearing makeup...
- Yamoth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1the pay service is down also.
- th3heretic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Im really gonna miss DI.FM :(
- uncledeercamp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yarnage, please go to savenetradio.org and do a little reading. Internet Radio already pays royalties and the increase is insanely out of sync with the rest of the industry. Satellite Radio doesn't pay nearly as much either.
- Junpei, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Finetune.com is still up though. /=
- wiremonkeymommy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes, Somafm.com is muted and it's like a huge gaping wound of silence [insert rabid invective laced rant here]. Of course, I contacted by congressional representatives... I hope it did some good, I miss my soma.
- uncledeercamp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You can help do something about it.
- cubedude6491, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I got a "personalized" letter from Arlen Specter (Craziest MOFO PA has ever seen) and it read: "thanks for your interest".....wtf?
- Ryosen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1It's the least that they can do seeing as how they were largely part of the reason that the rates were set as high as they were.
- aragon127, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0"Yahoo! Music Goes Radio Silent"
Uh, no it didn't. I've listened to Launchcast all day every day this week. -
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