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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+72I've installed and currently use Windows Media Player 11. Here's one interesting perspective for you to keep in mind:
iTunes = 42 MB of RAM to play a single MP3 file.
WMP11 = 22 MB of RAM to play a single MP3 file.
(Your results may vary.) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -27/+66Its a god damn beta. For god's sake, they slammed it like anything other then Itunes is sin.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+44That's my problem with iTunes on Windows. Apple tries so hard to emulate the Mac in their Windows software that it ends up being bloated and useless, where iTunes for the Mac is simply incredible.
Personally though, I won't use either. On Windows, QMP for me. - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -17/+50Media Player relies on a lot of other DLL's that are loaded with Windows so memory usage stats are misleading.
- jmacdonagh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22"Microsoft has lost this one! Stick to making the X-Box Bill, and don't enter a market you clearly don't understand."
Uh... how is Microsoft entering the market with an 11th version of a media player? Microsoft had WMP way before iTunes came out. - FluffyArmada, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30You are a dumbass.
DIG THIS IF IT REFLECTS YOUR SENTIMENTS - muikano, on 10/12/2007, -29/+48Features of Itunes.
Integrated Podcast Management. You may not listen but i do.
Smartlist creation that is very easy. You may not use it but I do.
Everything is resizable. The borders the windows. Minimized screen splace. No nested stuff. Minimized number of clicks. Ergonomic.
Music Store. YOu may not buy your music but I sometimes buy some when i can't find the particular lyric to a Japanese song.
Ipod integration is very nice.
Automatically management of songs. I dont have to write those folders myself. Look you may like to manually manage your songs but just consider what a computer is. It is an automation machine. Human gives orders to computers, not the other way around. If you can automate your tasks, it will make your life easier. Dont give me that stupid, "I like to organize my own music crap." You waste time on micromanagement. Time that could be spent on better things like preventing colonoscopies. Just because you spent so much time on one way of doing things doesnt mean you need to justify it by deriding the new method of automated organization. That's not fair and it's certainly crazy.
Most of all, if you listen to lots of music, not just english, Itunes is the only one that is Unicode compliant all throughout. Chinese, Japanese, Israeli, and god knows what, displays correctly. Even the playlist titles.
Can Microsoft create good new software? Is it even possible for them anymore?
Sure, Itunes hogs your memory but so does firefox. that's the price you pay for the power/functionality. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+28WMP is perfect for the porn experience.
- smarusich, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19media player 10 could play HD video.
- kyriakos, on 10/12/2007, -40/+56itunes is crap. I cant understand how anyone could believe that itunes is good. for me itunes is just a program to transfer my mp3's to ipod. I feel like all the rest of its functiolity is mediocre compared to other media players/managers out there.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+29Ok, since I'm getting modded down into oblivion for stating nothing more than STATISTICS that some might find, you know, USEFUL when picking what media player to install (I didn't even editorialize these statistics!), I just have to say this: Whenever a "Company X vs Company Y" story finds its way onto the Digg front page, the frothing-at-the-mouth retards render this website utterly useless for conversation and debate. This annoys me tremendously.
- curupira, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19iTunes = freeware media player
iTunes Music Store = pay-per-download music service - sonnysavage, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19@deadbaby
[quote]Media Player relies on a lot of other DLL's that are loaded with Windows so memory usage stats are misleading.[/quote]
I understand your argument. Windows loads too much junk in the background, and Windows Media Player uses some of it. The real test is to look at your total memory usage while using each one and not running anything else. As much as I hate WMP, it still may use less system resources. - worthbak, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24itunes is a free download. you realize that, don't you?
- topato, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I find that foobar 2000 in conjunction with the foo_pod plugin does an excellent job of managing all my music and ipod needs. And it uses less then 5 megs of ram.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16maybe he's talking about the cost of downloading music on itunes.
- Hoffer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I downloaded WMP 11 and tried Urge the other day. I'd never tried a subscription service before. The thing I didn't like, is all songs on the service are not available as part of the subscription. If you choose an album that has a current hit, you can download every song, but the one that's a hit. The one that's a hit, you have to pay 99 cents to download.
I was always under the impression that a subscription service let you download anything, including current hits. I downloaded some classics, but I've already got those on CD. - esansone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9funkpucker, please tell me you don't mean RealPlayer!!! that thing is horrid!
and yeah, I agree with kyriakos about the itunes thing. Mostly I just hate the interface, but WMP can do everything I need it to do. INCLUDING transferring songs/playlists to ipod. I don't have itunes installed anymore after I got XPlay. So why get itunes when windows already comes with a program that does the same stuff, AND plays video? (may not apply for everyone.. I don't use podcast for example). - DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Just curious. Do that many people choose their music jukebox/player based on how much memory they use? Memory is not really that expensive these days.
- visability, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8It's called Vendor Lock-in
- GTanaka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'd have to say that amaroK rules my music world. WMP, iTunes, all of 'em have (almost) nothing on it. Only complaint: unicode tags not compliant. ugh.
- pt4117, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Did this guy really complain that it wouldn't find your album art if the file wasn't tagged properly? Does he want it to download your song, play it , analyze it, and then say, "I think this is what you meant.".
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12"Nice features, but it's no iTunes"
That's a good thing then.
I don't know why anyone would want to use something as God aweful as iTunes. - tsupersonic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9All Toshiba laptops have a SRS Trusurround plugin, it's very nice and lets you select the surround sound mode. It really beats the builtin SRS Wow effects in WMP.
Well WMP is no iTunes, imo it's better than iTunes, and it's only in beta. It organizes music better, it scrolls through my music collection better. It also adds album info, album picture, which is really nice. My only complaint is podcast support. If only it supported podcasts with automatic downloading. It is weird how it recognizes my iPod when I plug it into my computer. To top it off, WMP 11 uses the least memory of Winamp, and iTunes. I am impressed, it is a big improvement over the older versions of WMP. - thelivingrobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's no iTunes?! Does that mean it's not a memory hog??
- modnar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The author could've realized that WMP 11 can be integrated with other services besides URGE.
- adizzy615, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I really wish there was a way to rate reviews at major publications. That was such an awful review, filled with biases, and fallacies.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11I think the interface is nice, it definitely looks cool
I doubt I'll ever use it though, WMplayer brings back bad memories - Smurffin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4WMP11 > iTunes, for a beta, ive been very impressed
- davidirock, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8It sounds better because of the srs "wow" effects. If you turn that off it's just a regular player.
- Dustyb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've been using iTunes for awhile, and WMP 11 is a Godsend. iTunes is a hog, it takes away performance when I'm playing games and listening to music. Also iTunes crashes so often I can barely use it. WMP 11 isnt as easy to use as iTunes, but its a heck of a lot stabler than iTunes.
- donatj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I don't know where the hell this guy is going, 1998 porn sites that he finds .rm's... I havn't even had real player installed in years.
- muddo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13For music organization, itunes is pretty good. But for media playback, you can't beat vlc or mplayer.
- Ishtumba, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13I have to say that I'm impressed with WMP11 in comparison to Rhapsody, Yahoo Music, and Napster. The biggest thing for me is that the software actually works, and works well. I like being able to manage my authorized PCs list, as well as the integration with all my offline tracks.
iTunes is good, but I still enjoy the idea of subscription based music services... since I'm at my PC 95% of the time I listen to music, $10 a month just makes a lot of sense.
I give a thumbs up to URGE, I think it's on the right track. - slatkin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Is "it's no iTunes" a compliment?
- puffarthur, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Haha yea, most of the porn on the internet seems to be in wmv format. I should know =P
- shout, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11I think the new Media Player is great. Personally I find it cooler and easier to use than iTunes.
- JoeCool1986, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The reviewer is wrong about uninstalling WMP 11. He says that the only way to remove it is by a system restore, however Microsoft says otherwise:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/faq/installation.mspx - Reeses2150, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7well, I've been using it for about 3 weeks now, since the original article. And so far, I've only got 2-3 problems with it.
1. A lack of manual control over the library. Before, you could manually choose files to add to the library and remove from it, you can't in v11.
2. Skins. If anyone knows my history, I've been doing skins for WMP for the past 3-04 years, and in v11, they've redefined some of the variables in the skins, such as the alphablend feature (which was used to gradually blend an object or view into and out of sight), which has been completely destroyed in this version.
3. The redesign of the top buttons, much harder (for me) to navigate.
When compared to iTunes, this is SO much better it hurts. Even despite these few (very intensely annoying) problems. - MonkeyFit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Have you checked out Songbird at all? Still in pre-alpha, but it shows a lot of promise. It will be cross-platform and is built on Mozilla's XULrunner so it will be highly extensible too. http://www.songbirdnest.com
- esansone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can disable the visualizations.
I dislike them too, but don't care since they're disabled... - DarkDays, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Uck, it still has those ugly visualizations...
I do like the playlist/library layout though. - Carbito, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have played around with the WMP 11 beta and have actually been extremely impressed. I have not had the chance to compare Urge to iTMS since its not available in Australia (...yet?) however the player its self is far superiour to iTunes. The library interface is so elegent and easy to navigate, it leaves iTunes far behind.
If this is what the new wave of Microsoft products is going to be like then I'm starting to get excited! - supert0ad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ daffyduck: memory usage isn't the only reason to try foobar. it can be customized to have the exact interface you want really easily, and plays just about anything, as long as you don't want drm
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well I don't really use WMP for music. I only use it for video if not I use DivX player, and for music itunes keeps all my music together.
So I did not mind installing this.
Looks pretty spiffy.
I like the new visualizations, something the itunes sadly does not support to the fullest. :( - KillerX, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8I think a true competitor to iTunes WILL HAVE to be CROSS PLATFORM and not tied in any way to Microsoft's mediocre OS monopoly.
But there are so many mindless Microsoft Windows Butt Monkey Lemming Fan Dorks supporting mediocre Microsoft crap, that may never happen. How sad. - esansone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3XPlay allows you to use WMP's "Sync" feature with an ipod. It also allows iPod management through an explorer window.
- snipes, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9It's not bad for beta.
Not bad at all. - jjesusfreak01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thats because they understood that when it says that it is referring to the fact that the yearly rate is not the same as the monthly rate, it is cheaper...
- jzimmerman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Music Library Management is what is wrong with WinAMP or VLC. They are either poor or non-existant (respectively).
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