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- thespudmall, on 11/27/2007, -1/+167Who would attempt to legally target a school full of lawyers?
- Braingoo, on 11/27/2007, -0/+118Don't sue them they are too smart. But take grandma and her 12 year old granddaughter to the cleaners, they will pay they don't know any better.
Muhahahahahahahahaha - SavageBlackCat, on 11/27/2007, -0/+86They fear the rich parents of the rich kids going there. Poor people are easier targets.
- nicepants, on 11/27/2007, -0/+54Perhaps an organization which sues its customers?
- sonnysavage, on 11/27/2007, -0/+49Why has it taken so long for people with authority to grow a backbone on this issue?
- lewhich, on 11/27/2007, -0/+41As a matter of fact their motto is: Stay as far away from law schools, stick with the English majors and the pre-schoolers
- DarkNemesis618, on 11/27/2007, -0/+39The bullies may just have met their match. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see the RIAA get shot down.
- ronaldinho, on 11/27/2007, -0/+32***** the RIAA. If they really fear Harvard, then I hope other schools will follow its lead and take a stand too. But it irritates me sometimes that people simply know so little and settled with the RIAA (which is what they wanted) instead of playing hardball with them when it's actually quite advantageous to do so. I'm not settling when I know the money is not going to the ones creating the ***** music.
- agent888, on 11/27/2007, -0/+30There is a higher probability that a Harvard student has a very influential/alumni relative.
Their law program isn't too shabby either. - andydumi, on 11/27/2007, -0/+29Indeed. I attended another same caliber University for law school and we had professors/attorneys who were prepared to fight, even classes on hypothetical trials of the sort, as well as close relationship and communication with the tech department.
In other words, they were drawing up the bridges and loading the cannons, and waiting for the assault. So far it hasn't happened. And we now have had 3-4 years of graduates who have taken classes and would be prepared to help the alma mater if need be... - kone, on 11/27/2007, -0/+28"1) the letters will not be passed on, and 2) some of the best and brightest at Harvard Law School will get involved in a big way"
I love that 2nd option so so very much! - AllYourBase3, on 11/27/2007, -0/+21haha, you really think rich people don't steal?
- RAEP, on 11/27/2007, -0/+21That is touching and awesome and kick ass at the same time.
- LLamaStar, on 11/27/2007, -1/+21Maybe the RIAA lawyers are all from Harvard.
- threemagic, on 11/27/2007, -1/+19It has nothing to do with the intellect at Harvard. I don't think they want to face the high priced attorneys...
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/27/2007, -0/+18Nobody will sue Harvard, unless it's the alumnis -- do we even have to explain why? Beat up on the students sharing music at lower east side technical college? Sure. Attack a school that has major CEO's the top 500 lawyers and probably has more assets than a major label and at least more congressmen on speed dial? Are you insane?
Whether the RIAA is evil is beside the point of being suicidal. This is the big ignored elephant in the room with regards to justice in America. - markperia, on 11/27/2007, -1/+17Oh how I wish they'd sue Harvard. Just so they'd get the hardest ass kicking of their pathetic lives.
- billbillbilly, on 11/27/2007, -0/+12and the other ivy league schools dont have rich kids?
- lead2thehead, on 11/27/2007, -1/+12Pray they're that stupid.
- dafragsta, on 11/27/2007, -1/+12In nature, do you ever see predators prey on animals that pose a threat?
- wingo123, on 11/27/2007, -0/+10That's an arbitrary assumption. Stealing is stealing. MOST people can afford 99 cents, but MOST people don't think it's fair to pay ANY price for low-quality, DRM-laden mp3 files.
That said, downloading music != theft. Put down the 'RIAA kool-aid', as they say. - insanebrain, on 11/27/2007, -2/+12since when are anal rapings nice ?
- GoDawgs7, on 11/27/2007, -1/+10The comments and the article ignore the fact that UPenn is a top law school and yale is ranked #1. I doubt that the RIAA is afraid of ruffling Harvard Law School's feathers.
- RAEP, on 11/27/2007, -0/+8Because everyone who downloads music only downloads one song. And everyone who buys music only buys one song.
- MattH, on 11/27/2007, -0/+8Harvard Researchers are also helping develop a distributed Bittorent client that is probably impossible to shut down because it uses a distributed tracker and search engine .The code is also Open Source .
http://tv.seas.harvard.edu/ - 4321234, on 11/27/2007, -0/+7The RIAA lawyers have sons and daughters in Harvard Law School, who all own computers and mp3 players.
- staticneuron, on 11/27/2007, -0/+7Probably less influential parents. Being rich would only be a small part of the intimidation.
- billbillbilly, on 11/27/2007, -1/+8you have no idea
- adrianmonk, on 11/27/2007, -0/+7The article didn't really say the RIAA was scared of Harvard students. It suggested the RIAA is afraid of certain professors at Harvard's law school.
- zeptobyte, on 11/27/2007, -0/+6I don't think it has so much to do with Harvard's particular capacity to defend its students, but rather its willingness to. There are plenty of other schools that could protect their students, but won't put forth the effort.
- dank123, on 11/27/2007, -0/+6don't stop going to concerts - thats where the bands make their actual money.... anyone that has minimal knowledge in marketing knows that not buying cd's does NOT hurt record labels if you weren't going to buy the cd in the first place... you cant "invent" lost money for an album that a specific group of people (filesharers) were never going to buy in the first place. - especially if they are college students who are 50,000$ in debt and living off of ramen noodles.
- ArmandoM, on 11/27/2007, -0/+5The problem is that 95% of the population doesn't know or care what the RIAA/MPAA is. They just happily give them their money and that's the end of it for them. Are they getting overcharged for what they get? Of course they are, but do they realize it, or care?
- TekTrixter, on 11/27/2007, -0/+4Only in desperation, when no other options are available.
- twoboxen, on 11/27/2007, -2/+6Live in fear of Elle Woods and all perm-logistic-related issues.
- billbillbilly, on 11/27/2007, -1/+4or they will be owned by one if they arent careful
- Sino, on 11/27/2007, -0/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnLB8wysMbY
- juniorb, on 11/27/2007, -0/+3It's not Harvard students they're scared of; it's brilliant, well-respected law professors annihilating the validity of their case in an oh-so-public way.
- tjkisst, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2Too late.
- sjaskow, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2Um, I'm in the US and I knew what "elephant in the room" meant. Perhaps you could provide a reference to where in the world you are?
- Rhine23, on 11/27/2007, -2/+4Heh, I attend Carleton College, and work for student computing. We got warned at the beginning of the year that the RIAA was sending a rash of letters to the campus recently. We were suppose to spread the message not to download, I think I have failed on many levels at that :)
- adrianmonk, on 11/27/2007, -1/+3Dugg for "congressmen on speed dial".
Also, while I'm talking about phrases, the idiomatic phrase "elephant in the room" isn't really that well known in the US, so for those who (like me, until recently) aren't familiar with it, it means something that is obvious but that for some reason everyone ignores anyway. - ChaosMotor, on 11/28/2007, -0/+2Incredible, it's almost as if you demonstrate to the bully that you're not scared, and they don't pick on you!
- nickv, on 11/27/2007, -2/+4UPenn is a good law school, but let's be honest, it's not even T4 let alone T2... and the gap between Harvard and Penn (even though its 2 vs 6) is super huge. I mean, in law schools, its just not in the same world. (Although, Yale is also decidedly in a different world than Harvard and everyone else.) You either don't go to law school or are a 1L at Penn.
The big deal with Harvard is that there are two tenured professors on faculty that make it a point to attack and confront the RIAA at every opportunity. The RIAA knows that they'll definitely have to contend with these folk if they serve Harvard with any papers. Hence they avoid it.
Strangely enough, and a serious oversight in the article, is that the biggest internet rights legal champion around (Lawrence Lessig of the EFF) is at Stanford Law, yet they got hit with pre-lit papers... - dyrshin, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2The only people who need to be explained the phrase "the big ignored elephant in the room" are the people who don't know what an elephant is. I doubt the average person who understands the English language needs the explanation.
- diulei, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2I assure you at Yale and Princeton, etc. etc. there are quite a few students in families of influence.
- Bahimiron, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2Could it be that Harvard is a liberal university known for its law and business schools with an endowment of well over thirty billion dollars?
- snackie, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2I can understand not wanting to buy cd's from these morons but not buying tickets to concerts has no direct effect on the label or RIAA but really hurts the bands involved....if you want this model to work you must support live music!!
- zspeed78, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2I remember 2 years ago at Cal when got an email from the dean saying there has been recent attention from the RIAA onto Cal, but that Cal has no intention of releasing anyones info. They reminded us its a bad practice, but that for now the school would not give away info. Go Bears!
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/28/2007, -0/+1I could have mentioned the gift of a "White Elephant." Even though it's an Indian fable, a lot of Americans understand it.
I'm trying to push the metaphor of the "Elephant in the Room" towards "High-stepping over phantom Pachyderm dung." Meaning, that people are aware of the elephant in the room, and it has been in that room so long, that it has elephant poop in that room. The people ignoring it have to avoid stepping in all the "problems" it has dropped. It's like being at work, and we all have to pretend we think certain things are legitimate -- but we all really know that they aren't. -
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