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- Boshow, on 12/28/2007, -17/+640I thought this was an article about MTV.
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -14/+249Superman dat hoe is VERY symbolic.
- nano19, on 12/28/2007, -16/+202Kind of misleading title.I thought it said today's music sucked in general, not the quality.
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -51/+233its not that todays music sounds like *****, its that ***** music is whats in the mainstream, so thats what most people listen to. there is plenty of good music out there, you just have know what to look for and where to find it.
- pensivewombat, on 12/28/2007, -12/+167Don't kid yourself. Pop lyrics were never good. There is a very small handful of good lyricists, but even when Dylan and The Beatles were around 99% was still the same crap or worse. You just forget the bad stuff over time and only remember the decent ones.
- whatthefu, on 12/28/2007, -21/+175This is coming from Rolling Stone, who rated Justin Timberlake's song in the top 5 of the year.
- MrTito, on 12/28/2007, -2/+105Dugg for linking to the printer version of the article.
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -10/+112Its a line in solja boy, I was kinda being sarcastic. It really means:
When you're doing a girl doggy style, pull out, and cum on her back/ass. When she tells you to wipe it off, you pretend to, and when she wakes up, she has the bed sheets stuck to her back like supermans cape. - Error601, on 12/28/2007, -25/+127I guess no one actually read the article. It is a clueless article about dynamic compression. They also seem to think pop music is the only thing being produced.
- sportbikepilot, on 12/28/2007, -10/+107RTFA
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -23/+104if you need further proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 - marx2k, on 12/28/2007, -1/+75So you didn't read the article, huh?
- sportbikepilot, on 12/28/2007, -4/+77did anyone actually read the ***** article?
- cmw72, on 12/28/2007, -3/+72Gotta love boneheads who toss their two cents in without R'ing TFA. Most of these people don't even realize it's not a commentary on the musical quality of today's recordings, but rather their lack of dynamic range.
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -31/+88Talent has taken a back seat to fashion and trends, Greed has overwhelmed artists' desire to produce quality music. When passion is lacking, you can forget about music being "great". The biggest problem is the "Album" scam where they pack a bunch of ***** songs with one or two good ones. Finally, the "music generation" that is led by MTV and VH1 have turned to garbage television / reality TV to drive revenues, an obvious recipe for disaster. The industry wonders why piracy is so problematic, it's their methods and lack of interest in encouraging talent that has driven music into the ground.
- gavin422, on 12/28/2007, -3/+60How is the article clueless? It's not as in-depth as some analysis of dynamic compression I've seen, but it's completely right.
Also, keep in mind that it's Rolling Stone. - Ninjab3ar, on 12/28/2007, -4/+60Very misleading title. However, I like a misleading title every now and then because it lets you know how many people actually read the articles that get posted on digg. Note, very few people are posting about sound quality in mp3's, the real topic of the article.
- Buddhist, on 12/28/2007, -4/+56I like how everyone is arguing about the title of the article rather than the article itself, which is about the SOUND quality of the music, not the quality of appeal from the artist(s).
- ThisIsntKraig, on 12/28/2007, -3/+52So many people not reading the actual article... yes, there's a lot of ***** music today, but there's ***** music in every decade. This is about the technical aspects of music creation and how much of a ***** job the supposed 'professionals' do. Music doesn't sound anywhere near what a real instrument sounds like. Its all LOUD all the time... no dynamics.
- kineticarl, on 12/29/2007, -2/+44That's odd. Whatever do music and MTV have to do with one another?
- inactive, on 12/28/2007, -5/+43Read article
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -1/+39That is indeed a very elaborate move.
- ozydingo, on 12/28/2007, -0/+37RTFA
- TheMidnight, on 12/28/2007, -5/+40Honestly. When did "yeah," "baby," "all right," and spelling a word becoming repeatable lyrics that sold millions of albums? It was going on way before Li'l Jon and his "what," "okay," and "yeah." I remember hearing music that was like listening to living, fluid poetry. Now I think I'm listening to lyrics hammered out by people who get their vocabulary from listening to their teenagers.
- defectDS, on 12/28/2007, -2/+35As much as you wished they weren't, they are talking about the sound quality of the music, not the music itself.
- Digger1218, on 12/28/2007, -7/+40Ditto I figured they'd at least mention Soulja Boy, Brit, Fallout Boy and other ***** that passes for "music"
- f4nt0m4s, on 12/28/2007, -12/+44I blame the ipod earbuds. no seriously, it pisses me off when I see like 40 year olds with the ***** ipod earbuds. Go buy some real headphones. There's this misconception that if you want to have good sounding music you need to be an audio snob. Not so. I'm not an audio snob but when I have a good job I plan to go buy some nice speakers for my home stereo setup. I want to be able to enjoy a little Stravinsky and some Zeppelin.
- betterth, on 12/28/2007, -0/+32From Wikipedia: "In simple terms, a compressor is an automatic volume control. Loud sounds over a certain threshold are reduced in level; quiet sounds are not reduced. In this way it reduces the dynamic range of an audio signal. This may be done for aesthetic reasons, to deal with technical limitations of audio equipment, or to improve audibility of audio in noisy environments." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_level_compressi ...
This is EXACTLY how the article talks about dynamic compression. They EXPLICITLY argue that the compression that reduces "louds" and marginalizes softs ruins the quality of the music. They complain that the drastic gap between loud and soft as the artist intended is what drives emotional connection to the music. And they are ENTIRELY and COMPLETELY right. Any musician knows that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamics_(music)
I think most people don't realize that "Dynamic range compression" isn't a "Dynamic" form of compression (rather than "static range compression" or something), but rather a compression of the "dynamic range". The destruction of the dynamic range serves to make music more audible in high-background noise environments but really degrades the quality of music in a way that no format, bitrate or speaker system can ever fix. - DLPizzle, on 12/28/2007, -2/+33Grr. You bastard... Foiled again!
- gbarberi, on 12/28/2007, -86/+116Why does today's music sound like *****? Because they focus too much on the beat/rhythm (not that they should not focus at all. Besides I have seen some bands be especially creative in this area) and give little attention to the lyrics. A lot of the lyrics are shallow, convey no real statements, don't sound authentic, took little creativity. etc. Remember when lyrics had meaning? When you had to actually analyze the words because they were usually symbolic?
- darkane, on 12/28/2007, -12/+41"And today's listeners consume an increasing amount of music on MP3, which eliminates much of the data from the original CD file and can leave music sounding tinny or hollow."
I don't know where this guy is getting his MP3s (maybe Myspace?), but mine sound pretty ***** good. Hurray for scene standards. - jmnormand, on 12/28/2007, -2/+31for the same reason every main stream movie produced since the mid nineties has been a remake or a sequel. the corporate media companies dont want to waste money on new ideas and consumers are dumb enough to keep buying the same old *****...
- Angostura, on 12/28/2007, -3/+30Or maybe it's just that the crappy radio station you listen to selects 'music' rather akin to the mainstream from 1994. There's interesting, varied, unusual stuff being produced out there, but you will rarely hear it on a commercial station.
... a 43 year old grumpy old brit writes. - ozydingo, on 12/28/2007, -0/+26I mean, what's the point in reading anything more than the headline? I can pretty much guess what it's going to say, and I'm definitely right about it. Besides, if I waste time reading the article, someone else might post before me! Oh Noes!
- Narrator, on 12/28/2007, -5/+30I stopped listening to radio in 1994. Once every couple of months I try to listen to music radio and its like nothing has changed since 1994! Rap, R &B, Grunge, Metal, Alternative are still the dominant genres and sound the same as 15 years ago. It used to be that the sound of music changed every 5 years or so but that all stopped in the early 90s for some reason.
- LilJimmyNordin, on 12/28/2007, -6/+31The fact that you love modern music doesn't mean that it's good. Just means you're too young to know better.
- Buddhist, on 12/28/2007, -5/+30Music is all about opinions. You may like NIN and Tool, but not everyone does.
- FunkyMo, on 12/28/2007, -1/+23The tragic part is I can't stop watching.
- betterth, on 12/28/2007, -0/+22Good job reading the article.
It said nothing about the quality of artists, lyrics or composition. It was all about the technical moves from analog to digital, and from CD quality to lower quality mp3's. How the highs and lows are cut from songs and how its becoming harder and harder to distinctly hear each instrument. It's about how, similar to commercials, songs are being mastered louder to pop out at you and grab attention. However, this technique, while it grabs your attention, grows weary very quickly.
"Taste" has nothing to do with audio fidelity, and how accurate a format is as reproducing studio sound. - hiikeeba, on 12/29/2007, -3/+24When Ron Paul gets elected . . . [insert foolish utopian fantasy here]
- ZenMojo, on 12/28/2007, -2/+22This was interesting. I'm not an audiophile, but I've got sensitive hearing (right now my television's at 8 out of a possible 100). I've noticed that more and more on my iPod I have to keep changing the audio levels from song to song because the compression rates are ridiculously inconsistent and I usually listen to it at extremely low volume. CDs suck less than mp3's, and you can tell the difference, but as long as music is convenient people won't care about how it sounds up to a point.
- Digger1218, on 12/28/2007, -4/+2480 gigs worth?
- Cymrubeats, on 12/28/2007, -3/+22The worst part of it is that some artists, who know for a fact they aren't going to chart or get voluminous radio play still partake in this 0.0dB loudness war garbage. They have a following, they CAN opt out, but still don't. Secondly, labels that get their catalogue 'remastered' (in most cases, a little EQ and a ***** of additional compression) so they can sell them all over again, are ***** too.
Half the morons nowadays don't even realise how badly some albums are mastered, but a lot of morons nowadays haven't heard any music, from a source other than radio, TV or lossy compression audio formats, that precedes 1996. - Cabface, on 12/28/2007, -4/+23Lyrics aren't what make music good, it's the music. Good lyrics are just a bonus. Now, of course in some cases lyrics do in fact make the song (i.e. Bob Dylan,) but for the most part I focus on the music and the way the lyrics are being sung as opposed to what they actually are. Listen to Zeppelin, the lyrics weren't anything particularly mind blowing, but Plant's melodies and the music itself sure as hell were
- GeekSwag, on 12/28/2007, -5/+24Maybe music isn't dead, maybe we all just forgot what it ***** sounded like. - alexisonfire
- izlander, on 12/28/2007, -3/+21That was a fairly long article and most people on here don't have that long of an attention span.
- Klainmeister, on 12/28/2007, -0/+18Yeah, i want to go to nearly every comment and add RTFA. I was going to make a comment about how i still enjoy Records over mp3's, but i think that most people wouldn't even understand why that would be relevant because they hadn't read it.
- KaiUno, on 12/29/2007, -3/+21You really think there's a lot of people that care about the quality? I might, and you might, but I have loads of friends and relatives just happy they can fill up their mp3 players with music on the go. Most of them are using the crappy ear buds that came with the devices. Most of them even think it sounds great. And I'm not one to argue with them. Why make 'em go down that slippery slope that is the audiophiles world where folks utter the terms "full sounding mids" or "harsh shrieking highs", which is all subjective anyway.
- djpants428, on 12/28/2007, -0/+18Really? Misleading? Reading the title and description of the story made me certain that I'd be reading a story about dynamic range.
- LilJimmyNordin, on 12/28/2007, -0/+18I don't think he's attacking the same thing you're defending.
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