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- EMFK, on 04/24/2009, -0/+54Frank Zappa nailed it.
- OptimusPrimate, on 04/24/2009, -0/+19This video nailed the problem right on the head. The problem lies in the giant conglomeration of the music industry. It all starts with radio. The traditional disc jockey is dead. Instead of hiring people who know music and are continually searching for new material, they hire artificial voices who'll play the same top 40 single every hour on the hour and who sounds good telling the audience about sponsors. It used to be that an artist aimed for a radio hit, signed with a major record label, and then went on a world tour. Artists are just starting to realize that this system maximizes the profit of the record label, not the profit of the artist. When guys like Quincy Jones are being replaced by Timbaland, you know its a bad sign. Good riddance to the old music industry.
- stupidfilters, on 04/24/2009, -0/+17Answer: the ***** RIAA
- Gorzki, on 04/24/2009, -2/+15All of these people should sit down with Trent Reznor and save the music industry. They could be like the justice league of music, or the planeteers of the music industry. By their powers combined, Captain Planet(or whoever the ***** Trent Reznor, Thome York, Frank Zappa, and Dick Dale would summon. A being that immensely awesome may just make people's heads explode.) will fly around in spandex and beat the ***** out of the greedy executives that are ruining the industry today, and use his powers to instantly make things better again. Then Whoopi Goldberg would show up wearing some purple dress and calling herself Gaia, and keep a watchfull eye on everything, so that the moment ***** goes down the musicianeers can summon Captain Awesome.
Here is a rendering of Captain Awesome that I just did in photoshop: http://bayimg.com/image/fapndaabd.jpg - zero, on 04/24/2009, -0/+9want to know why radio sucks? Two words....Clear Channel
- felidaeus, on 04/24/2009, -1/+9Video killed the radio star.
- dreadful, on 04/24/2009, -0/+7Great video (seems a bit old tho)
- spriggig, on 04/24/2009, -1/+8The same thing that's happening in the music industry is happening in the news industry. The news industry didn't try to sue and lobby their way back to profitability, however. Which is a bit ironic if you think about it because while we need to be able to trust our news sources and trustworthy journalism is vital to a healthy democracy, the art of music can flourish wherever it is planted.
- crazyhorse13, on 04/24/2009, -0/+7A bad product of any kind won't make money on its own. That's how it should be.
- ukno6177, on 04/24/2009, -0/+7Corporations and Art do not mix.
- BrianDe, on 04/24/2009, -2/+8@ 5:25 "In my mind one of the key aspects of the future is cell phones, because every kid has a cell phone."
I think this guy's on to something... - javiero, on 04/24/2009, -1/+7In the words of "rapper" MIMS - "This is why I am hot , I aint gotta rap, i can sell a Mil, sayin nothing on the track"
- Yckster, on 04/24/2009, -1/+6Exactly, because ***** music isn't worth listening to.
- gozroth, on 04/24/2009, -1/+6being able to get any song you want onto your phone in a high quality? preposterous!
- crash331, on 04/24/2009, -2/+7Like, you know, just by like, listening to the, like, DJs voice, that like they music isn't, like, going to be any good, ya know?
I'd rather hear a puker than that valley girl *****. - basickly, on 04/24/2009, -3/+7Dick Dale's theory only works if you've got good music.
Nobody will buy your music if it sucks AND you haven't spent 4 million dollars in promotion.
All good bands should take his words to heart though. - toxsid, on 04/24/2009, -3/+7Two Words:
RAP MUSIC
.....its taking over like the plague, and the plague has diarrhea from a weekend of mystery meat tacos in baja, mexico - flap, on 04/24/2009, -1/+5Shouldn't this just be titled "Why The Mainstream Music Industry Has Always Sucked". It's not like they weren't pushing ***** music at people back in the 70's, we just have a viable alternative now.
- mogwaiinjustice, on 04/24/2009, -0/+4Zappa, you are as wise as you are crazy.
- CoreyHalliwell, on 04/24/2009, -0/+4My question is though.... has the concept of "good" been buried amongst the spice girls, bad hip hop, bands like maroon 5 etc... music has been a ***** pile for about 10 years now... i lose faith when i see that everyone has songs by 50 Cent or the latest pop hit as their ring tone...
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3Yeah, obviously they pushed ***** music back in the 70s - it's just that in the 70s, there were also people pushing good music, as well. Stations were more willing to take chances, to play obscure tracks, obscure artists, etc. The top 40 wasn't some all-powerful list that was worshiped without question.
- fracktica, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3Have any of you tried slacker radio? I've been using it in my car with my phone and the AUX port... pretty great experience. Part of the reason I was holding onto XM was that I really value music discovery.. slacker is filling that void better than XM now. And I don't know why, but slacker's AAC encoded streams sound better in my car than the XM ones, albeit a lower bitrate.
It's also pretty cool that you can have a radio like experience without any annoying DJs interrupting the flow. - CoreyHalliwell, on 04/24/2009, -3/+6Radiohead also nailed it.... when i first fell in love with music it was when i found a PRIMUS cd in a bargain bin for 9.99...I was 14. It was't advertised i made the choice myself and i'm glad i did. i never took pop seriously again. It made me ask "why is this in the bargain bin and ***** like destiny's child and the spice girls is topping charts?" I was critical of every purchase i made from that point on.
In order to get better music out there, you have to learn to be critical of what you're hearing and ask yourself.. "Is this really worth $20?". - autobulb, on 04/24/2009, -0/+3It's so easy to complain about mainstream media but very few people do the things required to change it. Not change the way mainstream media works, but change the way your art works for you. Ever since I was mature enough to understand the messed up workings of these businesses I have been a part of what I guess is called "underground" or "DIY" scene. The small, localized pockets of art communities that support each other. I love going to shows, booked and advertised by the band members themselves where everyone is looking out for each other. The fans buy the merch right off the table, which was pressed maybe a few days ago by the band themselves. The band gets the money from the fans for the show and the merch, and the fans receive an excellent experience. You start out small and eventually build up to massive shows with many friend bands, newcomers, and audiences from many different walks of life.
- wassamatta, on 04/24/2009, -1/+4first video on MTV.....
I heard you on the wireless back in Fifty Two.
Lying awake intent and tuning in on you.
If I was young it didn't stop you coming through.
Oh-a oh
They took the credit for your second symphony.
Rewritten by machine and new technology,
and now I understand the problems you can see.
Oh-a oh
I met your children
Oh-a oh
What did you tell them?
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
Pictures came and broke your heart.
Oh-a-a-a oh
And now we meet in an abandoned studio.
We hear the playback and it seems so long ago.
And you remember the jingles used to go...
Oh-a-oh
You were the first one
Oh-a-oh
You were the last one.
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
In my mind and in my car,
We can't rewind we've gone too far
Oh-a-a-a oh
Oh-a-a-a oh
Video killed the radio star.
Video killed the radio star.
In my mind and in my car,
We can't rewind we've gone too far,
Pictures came and broke your heart,
Put the blame on VCR
You are a radio star
You are a radio star
Video killed the radio star...........
You are the radio star ...........
Oh-a oh .......... - verynegative, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Dugg for primus.
- nik15, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Wish he was still alive today
- avatarpalin, on 04/24/2009, -1/+3and yet completely spot on about today's music situation..
- Killroy1971, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2True, but some people don't quite get the whole picture. Instead of more touring, you'll see more distribution via video sites like youtube. The touring will come, but only as you can afford it. The old model of singing with a company, cutting a record, and touring to make it popular is coming to an end.
- bjs3171, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2There's ONE decent station in NYC. 101.9. They have this strange format where they ::gasp:: play new good music, and non-singles. It's crazy. Even local un-signed artists get airtime throughout the day.
- RonaldSays, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Amen
- DirtySanch, on 04/24/2009, -1/+3That was fascinating. I always record my music in my bedroom, now I know how important it is to keep doing what I am doing. If we make something spectacular, everything I need to get my music out there is right at my finger tips, recording, producing, everything. Dick Dale, Frank Zappa really said it well, this was a very eye opening video.
- IamZed, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2***** the RIAA!
- JROXZ, on 04/24/2009, -1/+3Still relevant...
- dsmx, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2But do you know the second video shown on MTV? Without searching for it.
- verynegative, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2There's 2 choices:
1. rent a studio and produce a good record.
2. Invest that money in good recording equipment (apart from god instruments and amps), all you need is GOOD mics and a GOOD audio interface. Learn how to use a daw software properly and then you can record as many times as you want.
I find it that option 2 is better. - x1soundgarden1x, on 04/24/2009, -2/+4I think this is a pretty awesome documentary about the record industry as well:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/62945/before-the-music-d ... - Earendil1, on 04/24/2009, -0/+2Internet kills the MTVideo star
- robrohan, on 04/25/2009, -0/+1Is there any way I can add a filter within digg that will suppress any comments with a link to hulu? Does anyone know?
- autobulb, on 04/25/2009, -0/+1That's a great point. The situation I was talking about applies mostly to bands typically known in their immediate communities. If you are starting to get really well known where people in different countries hear about you and like you, then hopefully you will also have the resources to make your music available to distant fans. I like to think this is still possible without the use of labels. Internet based distribution services where the artist is in control of their music and prices would be nice.
- DirtySanch, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1For sure the easiest way to record a quality record would be in a studio. But if you have the instruments, mics, space, and knowledge of the software, a studio is just icing on the cake. Studio are sometimes better for me mainly because of the space issue. Also I get a pretty decent sound by recording through 1 SM58, it's all about where you place the mic. It's not the most perfect sound but to get lay down tracks for my own use its perfect.
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Actually, we've got a pretty kick-ass public radio music station here in the Twin Cities. They play a lot of different alternative/indie stuff - I was in utter despair at the state of radio before I discovered the station.
- mHtt, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1So wait... humility provides learning opportunities?
whoa! I'm confused... I thought the world was static and unchanging. You mean to suggest it is dynamic and emergent? Well this makes things completely different! - dsmx, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1I know this is hard to believe but MTV used to have music on it, funnily enough in the UK sky has MTV in the entertainment section now not the music section.
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Same thing here with Pandora
- jonnyeh, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Sure, except for the newspapers that have sued Google over Google News.
- hillbillyboy07, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Music is art so lets go back to the patronage system.
- inactive, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1Good in theory if the fans live near the new artist. If I live in the US and hear a great song on YouTube from a new artist in the UK, how do I legally get that music? That artists may not even know their stuff was uploaded to YouTube. It could have been a fan that uploaded it.
Right now the options to purchase music by new artists are limited, although, we are much more likely to even find out about these artists now than say 10 or 15 years ago. So that's progress. But more than likely people will resort to file sharing to find music they can't get by other means. And that sucks for the artist. - Nevarius, on 04/24/2009, -0/+1MTV has video's ?????
- JustinHopewell, on 04/25/2009, -0/+1Does anyone have a list of who all these people are? I only recognized Zappa, Yorke, Greenwood, and then obviously the ones who's names were superimposed on the screen.
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