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- JoshCBFL, on 06/16/2009, -2/+21Regarding temporary internet suspension, the article states that the “process will not depend on network monitoring or interception of customer traffic by Virgin Media.”
I don't believe it. - JMilton, on 06/16/2009, -4/+17Those ***** won't see a dime from me. Do they really think we have forgotten about them suing kids and dead people? ***** them. Off I go to TPB.
- FXPooky, on 06/16/2009, -2/+10You guys realize that this is DRM-free which means that quitting the subscription still allows you to keep the files, right? That's probably the best possible legal system, so long as it isn't too expensive. In such a case, why would you pirate music anyway?
- ToeAndno, on 06/16/2009, -4/+11Unlimited downloads, great! Oh, wait...download too much and they'll cut your bandwidth by 75% for 5 hours.
- orion846, on 06/16/2009, -1/+6it always starts this way. than someone in a suit ruins it. it's like they have no respect for our ability to remember numerous past events and predict predictable outcomes
- ronindigg, on 06/16/2009, -3/+8Sound like a great idea
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -1/+5Looks like virgins consumer base is set to fall, when people start getting disconnected after accusations of file sharing it is not long before other isp's advertise saying they will not do that and reel in the customers who are pissed off with virgin.
- tgc1, on 06/16/2009, -1/+5Yo ho, Yo ho... a Pirates life for Me
- borez, on 06/16/2009, -3/+7Virgin media promotion team on the loose.
- AndrewDB, on 06/16/2009, -2/+6Owning your own music store: Priceless.
- ronindigg, on 06/16/2009, -1/+5I am serious, whats wrong with unlimited mp3 downloads? (if the price is reasonable)
and im pretty sure it will be just an option - borez, on 06/16/2009, -4/+7Interesting, but I still would not go near Virgin with a big ***** stick. My experience with them was ***** diabolical, every time they saw any kind of P2P traffic the connection would reduce to a crawl ( bearing in mind a do a lot of business with media types around the world and we share bittorent files legally for heavy distribution ) I had trouble connecting with MySpace, Blogger, using FTP programmes like Fetch was useless, and sites like Yousend it became a joke. ***** horrible experience. Period.
If in the UK and you're a high level user, Bethere.com is by far your best option. - Tyler2tall147, on 06/16/2009, -0/+3http://digg.com/music/Virgin_Media_and_UMG_launchi ...
duplicate of a story already made popular.... - heyimfromreddit, on 06/16/2009, -2/+5And what do you base that on? Oh yeah nothing.
- moxley, on 06/16/2009, -1/+4Because they won't have anything that is on a lot of other labels or anything obscure or out of print - that's one reason anyway.
- chameleon789, on 06/16/2009, -1/+4I humbly disagree. The service has been great for me, admittedly I'm on the highest tier but it's acting exactly as I'd expect. I've had none of the problems you described and certainly no P2P shaping (perhaps you never set an upload limit and your connection got saturated..?). The only problem I have with the connection is the traffic shaping, but it's relatively tame compared to most other services, especially those in the US.
That said, I still think this is a bad move and it's certainly making me think about changing ISP. If anything were going to be a catalyst for record company sponsored "improvement" of the service it'd be this... they're in a dangerous position in that they have control over the access (and the quality of it) to many of their competitors services. On the flipside though, maybe they'll become more lenient towards those who torrent the works owned by Universal's competitors... - uknowwhoibe, on 06/16/2009, -0/+3We are creating our own catch-22.
- fragMasterFlash, on 06/16/2009, -5/+7I'm guessing VERY low bitrate .MP3s suitable for earbud listening only.
- halfwayentropy, on 06/16/2009, -0/+2Yes...BUT HOW MUCH IS IT???!!!??? It doesn't matter how great it is if it costs too much.
- KaivenTor, on 06/16/2009, -0/+2Seems like an interesting idea, possibly a precursor to a larger selection, but it still sucks that they're getting dicked around by the content provider.
The real issue here isn't just the anti-piracy crap, it's that content providers are dictating the terms of resale, redistribution, and ultimately consumption just because they can. The model needs an overhaul. - Atrius, on 06/16/2009, -0/+2Let's pray to His Noodliness that they're not going to charge users out the ass for something like this, and that the artists that have their songs purchased actually see some of the money (I'm specifically worried about the indie artists).
- Blydchyld, on 06/16/2009, -1/+3No Virgin Media use deep packet inspection (well they have the ability to do at least) which means what ever your doing, it can be seen.
- nandorocker, on 06/16/2009, -2/+4Good start. Subscription models are very attractive if accompanied by a fair price. Doesn't replace owning your own copies, but with more and more mobile-enabled devices, it's way better than hauling your collection around with you.
- Blydchyld, on 06/16/2009, -0/+2Yes you are, its a additional fee based service, same as if you choose to add sky movies or sky sports to your TV packages.
They already offer a huge selection of free music videos on your tv. - JamesCapu, on 06/16/2009, -1/+3Am I the only one interpreting this as: "Sign up to our new mp3 service or we'll cut your internet"?
- scuba7183, on 06/16/2009, -0/+1then tell me where your ftp server is
- comeradealexi, on 06/16/2009, -0/+1Apparently it will be the same cost as a few albums each month
- AndrewDB, on 06/16/2009, -3/+4Dear Virgin and Universal:
Perhaps you should realize that people would be more willing to pay for music if, by chance, it didn't.. you know.. SUCK. - Lumiras, on 06/16/2009, -1/+2Umm, yep...you are the only one.
- comeradealexi, on 06/16/2009, -1/+2What a stupid comment
- Blydchyld, on 06/16/2009, -1/+2Nope full quality.
- MrSAI, on 06/17/2009, -0/+1Like this? http://www.jenium.co.uk/downloads/ttacoustic.mp3
- MrSAI, on 06/16/2009, -0/+1Hope it's true. Virgin Media are the best of the worst around here
- number11, on 06/16/2009, -1/+2its alright but with the rise of things like Spotify, i think its a bit late to be getting into the race
- borez, on 06/16/2009, -1/+2Maybe you're having a better experience then I did, mine was absolutely awful, and trying to switch from them to another provider was even worse, 4 months of excuse after excuse after excuse, I lost so much work and money that it actually became a joke.
FYI at the moment I'm currently seeding over 40 ( legal ) torrents flat out at 230kb/s with 10 coming in at 1.44mb/s at 6.38pm i.e. peak internet time and that's a pretty normal work load for me. There is not a chance in hell could do that on Virgin - ohreilly, on 06/16/2009, -0/+0"If in the UK and you're a high level user"
"If in the UK, and on one of the few cherry picked exchanges, and are a high-level user"
fixed. - JMilton, on 06/16/2009, -6/+6thepiratebay.org $0, unlimited downloads
- Frostek, on 06/16/2009, -1/+1As much as a whole $100?
Whooo... big spender! /s - internetdating, on 06/26/2009, -0/+0It sounds great, but what about copyrights of this content? I guess there will be some problems with law
- vanysh, on 06/17/2009, -0/+0"The new service reflects an apparent renewed commitment by both parties to satisfy the demands of customers for digital music while simultaneously fighting music piracy on the Virgin Media network. For in order to win Universal’s approval Virgin Media has agreed to implement a “range of different strategies to educate file sharers about online piracy and to raise awareness of legal alternatives.”
This includes, as a “last resort” for repeat file-sharers, a “temporary suspension” of internet access. "
See, this is what still perplexes me about these labels. They still don't "get it." Music is FREE, they are literally holding on for deal life to the old business models. People are getting more and more internet savvy, and with a simple google search, pretty much any music is available to anyone at any given time. Why would fans even both with limitations and the possibility of getting reprimanded for downloading/sharing music when they don't have to?
Imo, this is a very poor attempt to conform to digital music trends, which will ultimately fail. - JamesCapu, on 06/16/2009, -1/+0@ Blydchyld
The service itself is a good idea and generally a step in the right direction. I just dont like it being bundled with, "Oh, and by the way - If you file share from this point on, we'll cut off your internet connection." When Sky movies/sport came out, it wasn't bundled with an announcement that they'd stop broadcasting to anyone who recorded any movie/sport event off the TV. - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -2/+1They won't stick to that, they will twist their words, accuse random people of file sharing because the technical evidence is hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
- LordVance, on 06/16/2009, -2/+1Or a Zune marketplace $15 a month membership + tunebit...
- dansully, on 06/18/2009, -1/+0Its based on your account imprinted into the media, so if it turns up online, BINGO Virgin contacts your ISP and they (the ISP) are legally required to suspend your account.
That's depressing, this rocks: digg.com/music/Ricky_Valente_Live_at_Arlene_s_Grocery_NYC_06_11_09 - sodade, on 06/16/2009, -2/+1I would gladly pay $100 a year for unlimited downloads of hi quality MP3s from all the majors and their subs (including past and current catalogs) that are all properly tagged and downloaded at good speeds. That seems fair to me.
- sodade, on 06/16/2009, -3/+2I love me some russian mp3 sites.
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -3/+1Your buried for either bad sarcasm or thew offchance that your actually serious.
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -6/+3They can suck their subscription fee out of my dick
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