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- Galestorm, on 10/11/2007, -6/+37Wait, is the RIAA involved in this situation?
Well, whatever.
***** the RIAA! - floppyparty, on 10/11/2007, -2/+26At first I thought this was concerning the United States. Sorry to hear that Australia.
- CrimsonBlur, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19Sucks for Aussies! That price is way, way too high. How did that even get passed?
- rightmindx, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17There are Australian Diggers too, you know. And if it ends up making the multinational conglomerates that own the record labels richer, what's to stop them from lobbying for the same law to pass in the States now that the precedent has been set?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13There's talk that this increased charge may spread to gyms and health clubs. That would be a bad thing, since increased costs would be passed on to members, resulting in higher membership fees, and eventually in higher rates of disease in the community as people quit their gyms. All for a few more cents in artists' pockets.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15I am so sick of hearing stupid Americans whine when a story which isn't relevant to their country hits the homepage, yet there are far more stories about ***** Ron Paul or some stupid Constitution or something that are not labelled US only.
- overacid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I would be worried where this extra money really ends up. I can see some sense in this if the money would channel back to the original artists but If this is way for the fat cats to get fatter, which is what usually happens in these situations, then the average clubber like myself ends up paying for their new sportscar. Also, this will just cause ridiculous inflation among competing clubs who are going to raise their prices even more and use this as an excuse to charge $20 for that scotch and coke.
On the positive (spiritually more than morally) - you watch all the free warehouse parties pop back up all over the place. Dirty hippies will be out in their thousands spreading their cosmic i-ching chakra energy everywhere. - compgeek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I look at that as not ok fair inflation increase but more like $$$$$ CASH GRAB. everywhere you look artists are saying give us more more more money as if the hit artists played on radio or in nightclubs don't have multi gold and platinum albums and aren't making hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars a year off that and endorsements. like they need the 1000% increase in fees at bars and nightclubs and I'll say this if it got that much more expensive for drinks or just going to dance at a club with some friends I'd say the hell with it and start going to underground parties (like raves but with rules of no drugs)
- canewediggit, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9i go to nightclubs. i have friends that are djs/producers/promoters. i like girls that go to nightclubs and dance. i like knowing that nightclubs in my city can remain profitable enough to bring in out of town talent. i hope to jeebus this doesn't happen in the states.
i fail to see how your lack of a nightlife affects the rest of the world. - ChayD, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9It may end up affecting anywhere that music is publicly played (bars, health clubs etc) worldwide if the record companies get their way.
- Logikos, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Our government is trying to get themselves voted out. The list of stupid things they're doing leading up to the next election is amazing. We're headed for the biggest recession this country has seen in 40 years and the Liberal party doesn't want to be in charge when it happens.
- andrewa, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5There's got to be a Mastercard joke in there somewhere....
- jguy584, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Because senators don't go to dance parties
- ChayD, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Owww! This has the potential to certainly hurt the smaller promoters. The big holdings companies (such as the U.K's Luminar PLC) may be able to absorb the cost somehow (assuming that this takes off in countries other than Oz - which it probably will)
- djpants428, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I agree with you on this one, I'm also a fan of club music, and have been djing for several years now (mostly small parties, but a few bars/clubs) This would seriously hinder a lot of these places that have small nights or open tables nights where the DJs aren't really making money from performing. In that case the bar or club would have to pay for everyone that performs, and it would have to come out of their own pocket instead of the booking fee.
Not everyone on Digg spends their saturday night playing WoW... - 4NDr01D, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5ridiculous !!
almost 90% of the music DJ's play in Australia and USA comes from Indy labels in Europe
none are part of Australias Phonographic Corp nor ASCAP
any agency demanding money for said public performance is ripping off the artists!!!
this is how it works
Club Sells Alcohol
DJ makes people dance (get thirsty)
People Buy more Alcohol
Club Pays DJ
DJ plays again next week (needs new records)
DJ Buys Vinyl Records from labels abroad
Labels get Money
Middlemen RIAA are left out !! - CannedMango, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7This is an Australian article... nothing to do with the US
- keviniskool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5THIS ISN'T THE RIAA/MPAA!
- rightmindx, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7You mean the record label exec's pockets.
- SillyRabbits, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I only hope it spreads to health clubs. Maybe they'll stop blasting whatever crap music that the staff enjoys. I hate having crank my Ipod just to down out the dance club thump they seem to think their customers want to listen to. If the staff would open there eyes and look around and notice the majority of customers are middle aged professionals it might dawn on them that the latest 50 cent CD probably isn't the first choice of most people there.
- smb3d, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5The artist "just want to get paid for a days work." They got paid for that days work when they sold the album, or when they performed a live show. Why should the be paid for every single recorded performance of their song in every grocery store, club or elevator?
- synik, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4No, I used to be one of the pill heads.
As you no doubt know, there's a hell of a big difference between someone on pills and someone on ice. For starters the pill heads are too busy looking for flashy lights and vics inhalers....
As for being a loaner - if you think drinking at home with my wife along with my friends and their wives makes me a loaner - then you must be a bit confused about what a loaner actually is. - akeating, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Because next it'll be $10, and then you're paying $30 instead of the $20.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4You ***** arrogant *****. STFU.
- Logikos, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Our clubs were already hurting from the law that was passed banning smoking in clubs. This will force them to increase entry fees because a lot of dance clubs don't sell much alcohol (clubbers on extacy just drink water). Most dance clubs have already priced themselves out of the range for the student market. This is a nail in the coffin. I can see why recording artists would want more money but this is too much too soon. People will just stop paying entirely. We've already seen a large increase in the number of massive public parties in the bushland which use mostly downloaded music.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3A taxi into town is about $18, entry can be between $5 and $10 (usually go to a few different clubs), drinks are about $8.50 each (and then there's shouting rounds) and the taxi home at 5AM is about $25.
- Trance750, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I wouldn't be too smug.. this may happen in the US, before too much longer. The music industry has the politicians in their hands, as it is
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3$3.00 just for a night's annoying backgroun music? Boycott the biggies, get a deal from your local Australians or any decent artist over the internet, and let your customers hear decent music they haven't heard a billion times before on the dominated airwaves.
- akeating, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I don't think it matters. Try going to a club and saying, "Oh no, sir, you don't need to pay the money for me; I brought my own music to party to." He'd be happy but the execs would have you roasted.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Clubbing is already expensive enough as it is. I have to limit myself to going out to 2-3 times a month, simply because it costs me at least $150-200 for a good night out.
- stateofdreams, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3ummm.... you don't have to buy brand new clothes each time you go out...! ;)
- Radionesiac, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3This will only encourage higher quality indie dance music - of which there is already a lot. !!! and The Rapture FTW.
- stateofdreams, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@aussie..
ah.. gotcha man.. i was wondering why that cost so much...
@andrewa
i luaghed man.. dugg up! - loopyloopy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yeah, they've made this out to look like its going to benefit the artists, but i'm sure the record companies stand to get a bigger cut of the increase. I hope they destroy themselves. Greedy bastards!
- aussieNickuss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'm all for an increase in costs so the artists can get more, but almost a dollar more!? That ridiculous! A 100% increase (to 20 cents or whatever) is acceptable but $1.05 is not.
- overacid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2you really don't get it do you.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It shouldn't have that much affect upon the Electronic music goers, if it does, all hail "White Label's"
- flunky02038, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2read the article you dimwit - its nothing to do with the MPAA or RIAA - this is about whats happening in Australia. And No - its not some small town in the U. S. of A.
- eanbowman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2That's udderly rediculous regardless of perspective.
If the nightclub owners are making tons of cash by providing a place for people to listen to some tunes and drink, great.
They supposedly paid or their DJs paid for the music they're playing. In fact, the discs my friend used to buy as a DJ apparently cost a heck of a lot! They were sold specifically to be played at public events.
So if this is the case, why are Aussies paying for publicly-playable discs AND paying for the right to play them in Australia even if they aren't necessarilly an Aussie copyright?
That sounds pretty stupid to me. I could be wrong... - catalysis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2What ever will we do without Akon and Justin Timberlake playing in the dance clubs? We might have to listen to real music that wasn't fed to us by MTV, and that is simply not an option.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The whole thing is based on radio play and CD sales which only includes media from mainstream outlets. its a scam and nothing less.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I really believe that this is more geared towards "Commercial Music" and not towards the "Electronic" music genre.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"I couldn't care less if the whole Brisbane clubbing scene shut down."
I'm not from Brisbane, but I'm sure there are many thousands of people who would be seriously disappointed and inconvenienced if the clubbing scene shut down. Just because you have passed clubbing age in your life, doesn't mean everybody else has. - consonance, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I know that I'm tired of the RIAA in America, but whenever I hear about the Australian RIA and the Australian music business in general, I cringe. You Australians have it tough. Fair Use in Australia is much more limited there than it is here, and it sounds like your RIA is a lot more vicious when it comes to "protecting" their copyright.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2So I can't borrow any money from you then?
- flunky02038, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3since when was the web a US only thing - prick.
- themightytimmah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Fair day's pay for a fair day's work my ass... I wish I got paid weekly for work that I did years ago.
- flunky02038, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2how does one compute 'invite some mates around' into 'loner'?
- loopyloopy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2i'm surprised this got so many diggs. do Americans know what "dearer" means in this context?
anyways, this sucks. I saw that Go Betweens chick and the Mondo Rock guy on TV last night. Does anybody still play their music anyway? They've ***** it up for everybody else. -
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