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- Frankzulla, on 11/10/2009, -1/+58Hah, shocker.
- Lefts, on 11/10/2009, -0/+54I'm very surprised.
I would have guessed 90-95%. - cowthulu, on 11/10/2009, -1/+48Streaming music is...... like.......
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this. - SoCalDissident, on 11/10/2009, -0/+35I prefer str ██████BUFFERING...68%eaming music.
- 33PercentGod, on 11/10/2009, -2/+34People like free *****? Get the ***** out.
- zinc6471, on 11/10/2009, -0/+26especially when the ISP say you get UP TO 10 MB dl, but in reality you get 512kb at best due to "congestion"
- coreyb, on 11/10/2009, -1/+25Buffering...
- immatellyouwhat, on 11/10/2009, -2/+26The people at Yahoo! Finance are really with the times aren't they?
- Murrabbit, on 11/10/2009, -0/+19so 3/4 of teens prefer to own something rather than have it given to them conditionally with restrictions and the threat that it may simply go away. Astounding.
- melodeath666, on 11/10/2009, -4/+22Study: 75% of studies are a huge waste of time.
- BaoUnit, on 11/10/2009, -2/+19Really? The sky is blue?
- JDLamb88, on 11/10/2009, -3/+20Teens? University students? Maybe for a year or two.
- Saprta, on 11/10/2009, -0/+17Tonight's forecast: Dark
/George Carlin :( - Bacontastic, on 11/10/2009, -0/+15How did that statistics class go for you?
- mrcoldcow, on 11/10/2009, -0/+13Well duh
- BulkVanderhuge, on 11/10/2009, -0/+13In other news, 25% of teenagers are liars.
- boardthis, on 11/10/2009, -3/+14also in the news... 100% prefer to ride bareback compared to condoms.
- 4DFX, on 11/10/2009, -2/+11Indeed... 25% actually buy music!
- mGARANDEUR1, on 11/10/2009, -1/+10That's probably because they can move it to their mp3 players or burn CDs with it. Try doing that on LastFM or Pandora.
- shark72, on 11/10/2009, -0/+9This is not an article, but a press release for TunesPro.
As somebody else has pointed out, TunesPro is like AllofMP3 V2.0. They operate offshore (in this case, Panama). They'll be around until the copyright holders stomp on them sufficiently. - jserio, on 11/10/2009, -1/+9They needed a study for this?!
- uberlit, on 11/10/2009, -3/+11In other news, water still wet.
- Tddupre, on 11/10/2009, -2/+10Holy crap the Earth is round?
- bobertoq, on 11/10/2009, -0/+719 CENTS PER SONG?!
- boardthis, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6<nerd voice> well actually light from the sky is a result of the scattering of sunlight which results in a blue color perceived by the human eye.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 11/11/2009, -0/+6"more of torrents and P2P files contain viruses, "
lol, the industry doesn't get it. I doubt they ever will. Pretty much all reasonable torrent sites don't have viruses, and even then it isn't a huge deal, the viruses are pretty obvious if you accidentally download a torrent with them you can just find another torrent that doesn't have viruses. I take it that the industry is reaching for complaints against torrents and P2P but are having a hard time coming up with realistic complaints (since there aren't any real complaints for the most part), they know that the "legal" nonsense doesn't work anymore so now they're resorting to a new low of false virus reports. I can't wait until these guys die off, they get stupider every day. - vectoor, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5Most Americans here seem to be surprised to hear that it wasn't 99%. I don't blame you, but I guess you haven't heard how ridiculously popular Spotify has gotten here in Europe.
- thebreach, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5In reality there is NO difference technically. Streaming is still downloading the music, you just don't keep it and and is usually inferior quality. Why do that if you want to listen to a song more than once? Generally you would want a copy to keep.
- shark72, on 11/11/2009, -0/+5I think you answered your own question when you wrote "occasional commercials."
Pandora is trying a different approach than terrestrial radio: rather than ten minutes of commercials an hour, they're keeping them really sparse. This allows them to keep the site for free for most people, and ask the people like you who really enjoy them (since you listen to more than 30 hours a month) to help financially.
I disagree with you that this is wanting to have it both ways. It might be you who want it both ways... you want it to be free, like commercial radio, but you also like the fact that commercials are rare.
As for your "why so greedy?" question -- you should keep in mind that nobody at Pandora is making lots of money. They've had to lay off some staffers and it's been a struggle for them -- as it has been for all network radio stations -- to deal with the whole royalty issue. It's less greed, and more like a struggle for survival. I disagree with you that it's a "retarded notion" and I believe that your "WTF?" is a little harsh. - Quizboy, on 11/11/2009, -0/+5I don't know why people are digging you down. I too am curious if this site is legit because that is way less than itunes' $.99 a song. But I don't want to buy from them if none of the money goes to the artist.
- tmyprod, on 11/11/2009, -0/+4This just in...83% of males prefer not being kicked in the junk over being kicked in the junk...and now here's Tom with the weather.
- Quizboy, on 11/11/2009, -1/+5This article is not about piracy.
- bdbr, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4Where are you seeing that this is in Panama? A traceroute to their website shows the last hop is in San Diego. Sitelogr says its hosted in the US. Still, I have a hard time believing that major labels agreed to sell songs at 19 cents each here, when they're very strict about keeping prices high on other sites.
Its weird how finance.yahoo.com posts these media site press releases (on 10/26 they posted an article about soundsbox.com, which is clearly in Russia). - Fhwqhgads, on 11/11/2009, -0/+4http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/5/1/
- palmer, on 11/11/2009, -0/+4They never said it was free.
- jessgoodwin, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3How groundbreaking.
- tech42er, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3Yeah, so much music downloading...at the University of Reading!
- thebreach, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3I didnt see the part where I attacked streaming audio. I do enjoy web radio on the occasion to hear some new stuff. My 12k+ MP3/FLAC collection serves me well too so I can endless play them back as much as I want to.
It has it's purposes, but most of us want to keep our own collection locally to avoid having to find it as a stream over and over. For some it has become the new "CD collection" to be proud of. - bbqribs, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4That article almost read like a press release for.. uh.. a service that basically sounds like AllOfmp3.com part 2.
- shark72, on 11/11/2009, -0/+3The people who wrote the press release aren't really an "industry." It's a site called TunesPro, which operates offshore. If you remember the Russian site AllofMP3, you'll understand how they work.
Whether TunesPro actually pays royalties and operates within the law is debatable. For now I'd say it's a safe bet that the $0.19 they collect per track does not actually go to the artists or labels.
If it's between pirating and using a site like TunesPro, you may as well pirate. - sonicjosh, on 11/10/2009, -2/+5Has anyone tried TunesPro? I would buy a whole lot more music at $.19/song if it isn't a scam or anything; they look legit but you never know (so I ask about it).
- UselessTrivia, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3In other words: study confirms what everyone already knew...people like to own things, not rent them.
- shark72, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3I admit that I didn't too much research... I just did a "whois" which showed that the domain's registered in Panama. As you point out, that may have nothing to do with where it's hosted.
Agreed, this is very similar to the soundsbox.com diggspam we saw a few weeks ago. Amazing how many people fall for this. - immolate5, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3well, no *****
- mGARANDEUR1, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2Notice how I didn't mention that Pandora or LastFM were bad sites. They are ok for discovering music, however downloading the content to a device is far more convenient.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2You say this, but it won't work. The draw to torrents is freedom, both in a free from industry control sense and as in a free from having to pay anything sense. People like torrents because they're in control of the system and it's free. The industry had such a chance 10 years ago or so but after Napster got most people hooked on free music, the industry lost out because now people know that they can get it free. If you sit around and don't innovate, you die, plain and simple. The music industry was (and still is) too slow to adapt in a rapidly changing technological world and are on their way to death. It may take some time and they sure won't go down without a fight, but eventually their average cash flow will be negative from trying to fight what they can't beat and they'll either give up or run their cash supplies dry.
- hellotyler, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2All the companies need to do is put together a decent distribution model that beats BT at a good price and people will stop downloading. It's that easy.
Right now the internet offers MORE then the content distributors can provide, faster speeds, more selection, even album art. It would be foolish for a consumer to conform to the industries antiquated sales models when there is something better (and free!) already available. - DigitalisAkujin, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2There's an argument to be made that services like Pandora and DI.FM provide high quality music through a stream. I like my collection but sometimes I get tired of being a DJ.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 11/11/2009, -0/+2The biggest issue with the "yeah but you don't own it" argument isn't that the services will die, but that your ability to pay will die and you'll be forced to cancel. Not everyone has $15 a month to spend on phone music. It's better to spend that on a CD that you can keep forever than a month's worth of listening. Also, with the economy the way it is today and people losing jobs, the ability to pay $15 a month in addition to the iPhone bill with data plan just for streaming music may not be among the top priorities for most people.
- palmer, on 11/11/2009, -1/+3The article isn't talking about free peer-to-peer downloading.
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