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- tomg13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3 Vincenzo,
You're probably the kind of digger who diggs from the title only. What do you mean if Digg gets to big. The bigger the better. That way, stuff like this Sony ***** can be spread among all of us and there will be a better chance of something being done about it. Simmer down and get off you high horse - retard. - Namco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Mark's the man. Thank god for his work on rootkit revealer. Too bad this fungus had to fester for 6 months and infect millions on computers including Mark Russinovich's before being outed to the mainstream. And the real tragedy is that the layman is too dumb to understand what is going on and how his rights have been violated. Unfortunately Sony isn't going to lose any sleep or money over this. Also, the sheep are going to embrace blu-ray too and bend over for $ony next year too!
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Makes you wonder what kind of DRM crap they are going to put into Blu-ray.
- Psychodad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Proprietary memory sticks, atrac portable players, firmware that locks you out of PSP..and now this sh*t?. I am so done with anything from Sony.
- mentor972, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you know, I've always bought Sony Game Consoles, but I think I'll go with the Xbox 360 instead of PS3.
- savasten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3At the end of the article is a great summary(with links)of all that has transpired.
- moiety, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think we need "-4 Ignorant" comment scores- not necessarily because you disagree with them, just because they've managed to say it in a profoundly stupid way.
"Sony can uninstall my shiny metal ass."
+4 for Futurama References. - andyd273, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"mentor972: xbox 360 (made by microsoft which is evil) vs ps3 (made by sony which is evil)"
Actually, I think it goes something like: xbox 360 (made by Microsoft which writes buggy code and tries to eat other companies, but is otherwise harmeless) vs ps3 (Made by sony which created software that jacks up MY PERSONAL COMPUTER ON PURPOSE just to mess with me and keep me from doing something I dont really do in the first place). I'll play my games on the XBox and PC. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"am I the only one SICKKKK of the sony stories on digg?"
it could be worse. Sony and Apple could merge into a company called SAPPY and half the digg posts would be about iPodCyberShotMacVaio x86 G5s. :) - Sniper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Other related stories:
Sony to let anti virus companies in on DRM code - http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000437066304/
Sony BMG Rootkit Patch - http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html - waddling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Reason 4,587 to run Linux - no Sony root kits :-)
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just don't buy into their PlayStation 3 and their Blu-Ray *****. That'll teach them...
- dolby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Sony is really testing me.
- Incognito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1***** SONY BMG.
+DIGG
Tell your friends - JR007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Triple dugg...b/c its about Sony and their evil rootkits.
- knut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its "their" software not "there."
/Ich bin eine Grammatik Nazi - bash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1mentor972: xbox 360 (made by microsoft which is evil) vs ps3 (made by sony which is evil).
pick your poison... ;) - Harlequn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1think of the damage this has done to the company name. More than forty years they had one of the highest quality products in so many fields. This kind of thing can send it right down the tubes.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Boycott Sony
- neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1boycott sony... i'm getting Panasonic TV's from now on... PS3 kiss my rootkit arse... i'm getting a 360
- LittleOni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"You if you check most of ^^^these peoples profile they have less than 100 digs and all have to do about hating Sony. I ***** hate new diggers if digg gets to big I'm out of digg forever.I might start like another digg but with invitations only."---Vincenzo
Yah. Good luck with that. Only a member for about six months and already jaded at the "new kids" finding out about your hip new underground site. Relax dude, this is big tech news whether you like it or not. When Microsoft fouls up, then the hate will go to that. Then everyone will bitch about how they hate M$, boycott Microshaft, F Gates...It's the way the net works. - SnakePlissken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just told my fiance that I am pissed that I ever spent a dime on any Sony products... EVER!! @#$%ing CD player, DVD player, Walkman, PSP, PS1, PS2, etc...
- abeg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't want to spam... show everyone to boycott Sony
I made some no Sony buttons
go to my cafe-press store everything at cost
http://www.cafepress.com/abeg - SUPERTOY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0of SONY
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Question: Why do public toilet seats have a horseshoe or U shape to them, and most toilet seats in homes are a full circle or O shape?—Matt Z.
Answer: Let’s begin by dispelling a dangerous, reckless, and, unfortunately, commonly accepted myth about the history of plumbing.
Thanks to a vernacular that has appropriated certain terminology to describe the entire water closet, not to mention the disposal system itself and waste deposited therein, a lot of folks mistakenly believe Thomas Crapper is the inventor of the modern toilet. Matt Z., this is a falsehood that needs to be flushed from common parlance like so many clumps of sodden tissue.
Crapper was, indeed, a highly-skilled plumber who owned a successful business (Thomas Crapper & Co., still in operation) in London during the mid- to late-19th century. And while he did hold several patents, including one for manhole covers, Crapper was merely an inheritor of the flush-toilet and made his own modifications to an already established design. The name “Crapper” is in fact a Yorkshire moniker denoting one who harvests crops (pronounced “craps,” to *****), and has very little to do with defecation of any sort. Excepting, of course, those who are regular harvesters/consumers of corn, who have their own feces-related problems (something a friend of mine calls “reinCORNation,” but we’ll save that discussion for another time).
You see, Z., the flush-toilet, like so many inventions (the combustion engine, insulin, garage rock, falafel) was the result of collaboration. In the mid-18th century, folks everywhere had grown tired of seeing their turds floating around in the cistern, turds lingering like overbearing houseguests, turds climbing up out of the bowl and raiding the larder—turds, Z-Dog! Everywhere, turds. As you can imagine, something simply had to be done.
For centuries, hapless defecators resorted to calling in bearded, robed sorcerers, who would wave a plunger over the bowl, holler, “Be gone!” and banish the offending poo-poo to the netherworld. This “brown magic” had mixed results until 1777, when the first fully effective flush toilets began to appear around London, credited to a variety of names that I won’t bore you with here—although rest assured many are hilarious. The sorcerers, with little else to do, went back to their day jobs—selling comic books to pre-adolescent boys and perfecting mystical techniques of masturbation.
But let’s get back to your question. How easily one finds oneself off on tangents when discussing human waste!
“U” (open-front model) versus “O” (closed-front model) is truly a battle of the ages, with “U” holding a monopoly on the public sphere, and “O” content to exist modestly in private abodes. This much we know. But, as has plagued toiletry since its inception in the days of Crapper, untruths, speculation, and myth confound popular understanding of why this discrepancy exists.
Among some of the blatantly ignorant and foolish lies you might have heard: The open front allows for stray pee to dribble more readily into the bowl. Ha! If only! While admittedly this is a problem more common to men’s bathrooms, the “U” only encourages a slap-dash approach to urination. “By Jove,” thinks the pissing fellow, probably drunk, “with this handy ‘U,’ I can spray my business anywhere I like!” May Crapper’s ghost have mercy on you if you’re next in the stall after one of these philistines, Mr. Zizzle.
Perhaps you have been told that the “U” allows for greater facility when adopting the practice of “padding” (lining the seat with toilet paper for a more hygienic experience). Wrong again, Zorro! In fact, the open front actually proves problematic, as stray bits of tissue will often get caught in an initial “courtesy flush,” sucked out from underneath one’s buttocks and down into the pipes. Then what, Señor Zippy? There you are, with wiping still to be done, and herpes breeding beneath your naked cheeks—where’s your precious “U” seat now? It let you down, didn’t it? Yes.
And what of women? They void their bowels and bladders, too (shocking, I know, but apparently true). While I am unsure how many forays you, Zoltar, have made into the public ladies’ rooms of the world, you must know, at least, that their toilets share the propensity for “U” over “O.” What say you of this? Tampons? Something to do with the string? Seems like speculation, at best—and, to be honest, I can’t really help you here. But, in the interest of veracity and tenacious, hard-hitting investigative journalism, I went to an expert: a woman. Specifically: my friend Kate. Guess what, Zappa? Kate said, “Huh. Maybe for wiping?” She had no idea! To my suggestion of abetting hygiene-product application/removal, Kate responded, nonplussed, “Yeah, maybe.”
After all we’ve been through together, Dr. Zarathrusta, my inquisitive brother, I’m afraid that the answer to your question might be a bit disappointing. As is so often the case in this capitalistic, greed-fueled society in which we find ourselves—a society that chews up humankind in its maw of material-necessity, swallows us into a gullet of consumption, then dumps us into the sewer like so much half-digested corn—the “U” seat is preferred in public toilets because it is cheaper to produce, install, and clean. I ***** you not, Zak-from-Saved-by-the-Bell. That’s all there is to it: Less surface area makes for less material; less material makes for less Lysol; less Lysol makes for greater savings; greater savings wins the war on terror, etc.
But, please, let me at least conclude by telling you a little story, maybe something that will help you in your future excretory performances, regardless of seat-shape. My father is Indian, from India. Indian houses, in my experience, do not have toilet seats at all; instead, in each bathroom you will find a pair of foot-pads on either side of a drain where you are meant to squat and expel your waste directly into the plumbing. Also, there is no toilet paper, but a jug of water. You pour it down your backside and scrub away until all traces of feces have been eradicated. Sounds gross, Zsa-Zsa? Sounds barbaric, this lack of tissue and Western wiping? Let me ask you this: If you got some poop on your arm, would you merely swab it away with a sheaf of Kleenex?
No, I thought not.
Good night.
—Published 11 November 2005 - striker1211, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmm, has anyone on diggnation mentioned the rootkit thing? I know its been dugg a lot but i dont remember hearing it discussed...
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End sub - xodex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0**** sony
- bash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Vincenzo: let it grow, then you'll be one of the cool guys who was reading digg "back when it was underground". ;)
- fleng, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1A friend of mine got this root kit and hes anti spy ware deleted it and hes CD player ended up not working so i had to recommend him that if he wants to listen to music on hes computer he should do it the illegal way.
Pretty ironic how their program has a opposite effect of what they want to achieve. - RPGGamer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Sony has left us to speculate, but under the circumstances the answer to all these questions seems obvious: Sony doesn’t want customers to know that there’s DRM software installed on their computers and doesn’t want them to uninstall it if they somehow discover it. Without exaggeration I can say that I’ve analyzed virulent forms of spyware/adware that provide more straightforward means of uninstall."
Part of the quote got cut off. - imdigginthis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0When I googled "sony and root kit" I was disappointed to see that mainstream media is not picking up this story. I never broadcast to my email address book, but I think this is worth informing people about. This root kit stuff is unacceptable. Sony doesn't seem to be getting the message.
- blackmesa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Sony can uninstall my shiny metal ass.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hackers of the world unite! hehehe, someone will do something to bypass it anyways so I'm not worried.
~mario
***** SONY! - ahrefd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1that article was really amazing, props to whoever posted it.
- Singee15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Their*
- moiety, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Amen, andyd273. Amen.
- 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0And remember, everyone (in the U.S.) who is digging into what SONY has done on our computers is in violation of the DMCA.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0PS3 = Dead. I aint buying any rootkit infested piece of ***** console. X360 is the way to go.
- mckennage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fight back! See http://henage.net/dan/security/sony-rootkit.html for ideas.
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's time to fight fire with fire. Sony, the RIAA and the other greedy leaches will not stop until they suck every penny they can. Their lame excuses of protecting the artist are unfounded when you follow the money. The artist suffers along with the consumer. Until the consumers who pay good money utilize the same tools that parasites do, the media moguls Big Brother tactics will only get more aggressive and more imposing. We not only need to hire lawyers but we need to make this political. Because of evolving technologies the big media companies are losing their ability to totally control distribution and pour money in the coffers of our politicians. Politicians will follow the money until the people that put them in office let them know that they will send them home to the unemployment line.
Hard working consumers need to;
1. Write, don't call your representatives and tell them that their job is on the line.
2. Join any class action suit that comes down the pike. Make them sweat.
3. Don't buy from companies that support or sell such insidious products. That includes all their products; CDs, TVs or any other item they produce or sell.
4. Support the artist by buying directly from them. At least then they will get a more deserved share of their property until we have a truly modern distribution process that eliminates the no value parasites. - Jimzip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"A friend of mine got this root kit and hes anti spy ware deleted it and hes CD player ended up not working so i had to recommend him that if he wants to listen to music on hes computer he should do it the illegal way."
That's too true.
Sooner or later when common folk find out what's been happening under their noses their attitudes towards legal purchases will backfire, and all the millions upon millions of dollars that Sony & other McCorporations have put into their 'security' features and DRM schemes will be worth nothing. People will go back to how it was in good 'ol 2000 when Napster was cool and downloading everything you wanted illegally was the best way to do it..
Jimzip :D - ryan_merket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.digg.com/security/Boycott_Sony_Music_USA
- Jimzip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh and I'm also ashamed of Sony.
Bad Sony! BAD!
Jimzip :D - mrblogadise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Elranzer has it exactly right...
good story.... good detective work... bad Sony - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why is this subject prompted people to start a debate over the consoles again? 360, Revolution, PS3, blah blah...
Sony BMG is Sony BMG. It's a lousy music subsidiary. I wouldn't buy anything from their lackluster list of artists anyway. No big loss here. But I am getting a PS3. I don't see the connection personally. - cerisaac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Check this out...
http://digg.com/music/Sony_s_Attitude_Has_a_History - ddessex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does this mean someone could conceivably come in and install a rootkit onto my machine (even if its locked) just by placing a cd into my cd-rom drive and of course my settings being set to auto-run?
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