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- jacobee519, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30Excellent idea. It's nice to see a lyric site without all those terrible ads. :-)
- trisomy21, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Rhine, finish your bowl, turn off your black light and do it tonight.
- geekchic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22This is lawsuit central - song lyrics are copyrighted to the person who wrote them. Unless the songwriter has authorised their distribution, then that website is going to get targetted by those ever so nice chaps/chapesses at the RIAA.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm - CaptainFuture, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Agreed, such a project would be too much of a benefit to people all around the world. We must destroy it! *slams fist on table*
- wtfdan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20This will grow, and fast.
Although, with increasing popularity I fear future suits over copyright infringement.
(Or has there been a precedent set regarding lyrics already?)
I can see myself using this often. - gahal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Excuse me while i kiss this guy
- Rhine23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19This is a nice project some of the pages arent completed though like all the Led Zeppelin songs I think I will go through there and add them tomorrow
- beoswulf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16If you can hum or sing the song from memory without buying the CD it's stealing! Think RIAA re-education camps.
- rm999, on 11/12/2007, -2/+17Good idea, but they are just stealing the lyrics from other sites using a bot. I don't get why they need more editors if a bot already got legit lyrics (other than to fix small errors in the current lyrics)
Little known fact: a large % of wikipedia was built the same way (for example, most pages on small towns around the world were built with bots). - bjohnsonwsu, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21Reported to the RIAA. If you dugg this story, I reported you as well. Let's all do our part to end song lyric piracy.
- Sundae, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12IANAL, but I think that legally this is about the same as publishing a wiki containing the content of books. But it's a great idea and certainly useful.
- WeThePeople, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11This is nuts, you do realize this is only going to make music fans happy, who would want that? and might even entice them to buy some songs. It's good and healthy for the music industry and keeps fans actively interested in music without hurting sales, so the idiots will certainly try to put an end to this madness.
- klang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11This will grow fast and then it will be sued by the RIAA and disapear just as fast.. so sad..
- shiftyroach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7anyone remember when they managed to shut down the international lyrics server (www.lyrics.ch) back in '99? they only had about 100,000 songs in their database but it was essentially ad free too. full article here http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/01/cyber/articles/19lyrics.html
- klang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8You could contribute ..
- scruffbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6;-)
yeah I found this site in the Dreamhost Newsletter. This site is Dreamhosts site of the month btw.
Geoff - mpcusack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6someone uses dreamhost...
- fletchowns, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Added some Nirvana songs :)
Nobody Knows I'm New Wave has to be the hardest ***** lyrics to decipher - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, I think this will go down if it gains popularity, and it hasn't simply because it hadn't got enough mainstream attention. Once the news reaches RIAA, I think we know what'll happen, at least if this is a site in a certain corporate-governed state.
- gklitt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Sure, the wiki idea is cool...but in my opinion it's sort of unnecessary. I mean, search for any popular song in Google and you will generally find that the top 10 results are lyrics sites (which are mostly user-submitted anyway). There are ads, but just use the Adblock extension in Firefox or something; besides you are only going to be there for a couple minutes.
- ByteGuerilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You do get lyrics websites, of course, like www.letssingit.com, but sometimes you come across a page saying "This artists does not want us to make their lyrics available", so I would assume that all they can do is request that you remove an artist's lyrics.
- whisk3rs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Too bad most of the comments on songmeanings are of the type "omgz these song is so kewl it makes me feel so good because it makes me forget about that time i broked up with my bf / gf" instead of actual discussion of what the lyrics mean.
And when people start discussing the video clip of the song, someone always comes and complains about how the site is called SONGmeanings, not videomeanings.
Meh. - electricmime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh my god! Having lyrics in an unoffensive layout without popups and linking to an official source where you can legally buy the cd so that the artist/labels get money?
How devious! - quadvods, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8http://www.songmeanings.net/
Has the lyrics and discussion about song meanings.. and a very limited number of adverts. - Ghost_MH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's a wiki...You COULD just change those wrong words...
- bairy, on 11/12/2007, -0/+4Normally I'd agree but this wiki has a couple of obvious advantages:
1. You don't have to wait an hour while some slowass ad server churns out a 60k flashing banner ad
2. If there's a word or line wrong, which occasionally happens, you can correct it. - RADicalSatDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Awesome site! but Google's searching of lyrcis was under fire, I'm afraid this is too easy a target to take down :-(
- electricmime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Mouse meant MPA (Music Publisher's Association)
They are the ones who want the lyric site owners to "be jailed." - babbling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why would the MPAA go after it? You do know that MPAA stands for Motion Picture Association of America, don't you?
The RIAA is the one that has been going after lyrics websites. For them, it actually even makes sense to go after lyrics websites. Their goal is to ensure that "consumers" can only find out about music via mediums run by the RIAA, such as MTV. With lyrics websites, people might hear a song on the radio and Google the lyrics to find out what song it was so that they can buy it. The RIAA do not want this to happen because it means they will lose control of the music industry. Independent artists would be able to ditch them or demand better contracts from record companies because the RIAA companies wouldn't be the only way of finding out about music anymore. - ByteGuerilla, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/
- whisk3rs, on 11/12/2007, -0/+3I used to be a contributor for an electronic music lyrics database before it went down (trancewarp.com, you can still look up google cache). Many EDM lyrics you can't find on google, neither with bots nor with humans; pretty much the only place I know now to get EDM lyrics from is www.trance.nu which has the crappiest search function ever, too much duplicate and incorrect stuff. Also, so many lyrics out there are wrong and they're wrong on every single lyrics page because these websites steal from each other.
IMHO, member-contributed and editable lyrics are a very good idea as long as the website is easy to search and edit. A good, clean, centralized lyrics projects a-la IMDB would be priceless (so that instead of googling lyrics and spending 3 minutes trying to decide what site has background that's easier to see or where the lyrics actually load I could go to one place)
So if this webpage loads for me (now it's showing just a blank white background) and I like it, be sure that I'll be adding at least 200 hundred EDM lyrics in the near future - Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Now all we need is add-ins for all of the media player software out there to grab lyrics from this site.
I'll take one for winamp, thank you. - mikesum32, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I hope it doesn't have all those wrong words like some of the lyrics sites.
I even saw a few songs that had the words for another song on teh interweb.
I mean get a clue. That's not even the right song lyricsondemand. It's The Warrior, not Goodbye to You. - gahal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That reminds me of http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43029
- zentro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You are a funny guy I'd say, I'd say.
- ben.0081, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hope so because this could kick soooooooo much ass. I've always wanted to be able to search the actual text inside the lyrics though.
- looklikecontest, on 11/12/2007, -0/+2I ANAL too, but I guess this site could possibly be kind of off the hook because it's a wiki. The act of publishing the copyrighted work is what is illegal - and that act is not necessarily done by whoever hosts this site, it's done by the person who edits the wiki. If I put out illegal stuff on a geocities site, I'm the one breaking the law, not geocities.
That being said, how about a large scale ***** reformation of copyright law? Spreading song lyrics does not hurt the artist, it creates a richer common culture for all of us. - EDantzer, on 10/12/2009, -0/+2the source code for the site is empty now, wtf.
- SinistralEnigma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The database server crashed. Empty source is what happens to a wiki when the database server goes down.
Digg effect :/
Hopefully DreamHost will get it back up soon - sublimethinker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You have obviously never used a lyric site before. The lyrics on said sites are often inaccurate, not to mention that new songs are always being recorded. These 2 reasons alone justify a wiki lyric database.
- subscriber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not the RIAA. They actually don't care about the lyrics ... they care about the "recording". The RIAA doesn't represent the people who write the lyrics, they represent the studios who recorded the music, and thus they retain "mechanical" copy rights.
- Lindsay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sweet. I love this idea. I'm always wondering where to go to get song lyrics. Now I know. Plus I love the fact that it is a Wiki.
- tether, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1looks like they used bots to generate most of their content, from other sites. it wasn't smart enough to figure out that a covered song shouldn't be listed by the band who covered it. or at least shouldn't give that band credit for writing the lyrics
- DoctorEvil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is an infringement of copyright, and the RIAA already made a statement and has been sending cease/desist to various Lyric sites.
It wouldn't be too bad if it were possible to license lyrics from the RIAA to actually offer on a website, but no organization makes that available, at least not at a reasonable cost that can be covered by advertising. They want to treat it the same as if you were streaming actual songs on the website, or some outdated model like that. - d3designs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea, I get the newsletter too, but I didn't think about submitting the site to digg. ;-)
- MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, lol. Sorry about that, I was tired when I posted that.
I meant the MPA, not the MPAA.
Music Publishers of America.
Anyway, their claims are just as ridiculous, if not more so than the RIAA. They claim that tab sites cause them to lose sales of official tab books. Even if that's true, I don't think they can stop a website from hosting tabs and lyrics.
They're usually the interpretation of the person who posted them, anyway. - RickTomson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I prefer http://lyricsfly.com/
It's got auto suggestions over 300k lyrics and ajax wiki type correction system. Also, looks king of like google with only text ads. - whisk3rs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Highland - No Way Out
you can't find these with google unless you know where to look http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Z1Eqr5hQuKkJ:www.trancewarp.com/printview/00354/Highland%2520-%2520No%2520Way%2520Out+site:www.trancewarp.com+revere&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
Point is: I can add them in one centralized place - nanenj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a clone of Lyriki.com that's trying to make some quick cash via amazon links. Lyriki has -no- advertising, which is why it's legal it qualifies for exemption from copyright due to being a public non-profit internet archive. Expect Lyricwiki.org to be shut down fairly quick due to it's monetization. Lyriki doesn't have as many articles, but that's because they're all added by hand and not scraped from existing lyrics sites by bots.
- subscriber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Song lyrics are in fact copyrighted. It is not incumbent on the artist to ask that the lyrics be removed either -- the onus is on the publisher to get permission before posting, and maybe even pay royalties. It seem weird, I know, 'cause most of us have memorized the lyrics, or could easily write them down while listening to a song, but that's the way the laws read. The creator of a work automatically retains exclusive the right to copy it.
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