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- inactive, on 11/07/2007, -8/+89http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Williams
I'm guessing 95% of Digg hasn't heard of him as you guys don't listen to Hip Hop, let alone Underground or "Conscious" Hip Hop. There's more to the music than "supermanning dat hoe (yoooooll !)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscious_hip_hop - EricVKX, on 11/05/2007, -3/+74I got this because it's free. I kept it because it's ***** awesome.
- rupurt, on 11/05/2007, -5/+75just grabbed it! Ive never heard of the guy but trent reznor is involved so it should be good
Support the cause people :) - inactive, on 11/07/2007, -2/+59Totally ***** awesome that Reznor carried this out with the OiNK tradition of preferred bitrates and formats. I was awestruck and inspired by his admission that he was an OiNK user who basically considered OiNK to be the best record store on the planet.
- thredden, on 11/05/2007, -1/+51The ways of middlemen proves to be just a passing trend. We need no priests to talk to God. No phone to call her.
***** right on - kaunaz, on 11/05/2007, -2/+47It's an amazing album, I'm enjoying it a lot. This is worth far more than the 5$ I'm paying.
If you download it for free and like it, please support the artist, he deserves it. - greedoe, on 11/03/2007, -2/+43paid nothing, just wanted to check it out. Not a hip-hop fan so not too worried that I wasted my money. if I find it's good, I'll go back and pony up the cash.
- quaunaut, on 11/08/2007, -3/+41Going through it, it sounds like a more hip oriented NIN. Excellent, to say the least. Where I only listened to the Radiohead album once and decided it wasn't for me, this feels much more up my ally. I think I'll be paying for it for sure.
- mrjit, on 11/08/2007, -4/+42Saul is AMAZING! And this is a ***** fantastic mesh. FLAC for me.
- Borbus, on 11/08/2007, -3/+37I opened my wallet. $5 for FLAC. Cheaper and a much better product than iTunes. Hassle free download. I can play it ANY audio device I want (burn to CD, convert to MP3 for MP3 player, play FLAC on my PC). Not tied to iPods or WM devices like the others are. Plus Saul himself probably got just as much from this sale as he would've done through iTunes. ***** Steve Jobs.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. I will buy lossless DRM free music online (in a suitable format like FLAC, not the proprietary ALAC). I will still try before I buy (by download a low quality MP3 for free beforehand), but if I like I will buy. OiNK was by far the best place to try before I buy. - sorensilk, on 11/05/2007, -0/+33This is front page news because it's the "music industry" doing something good for a change. This is what people have been asking for for years and finally some artists are doing it.
- bananaspiders, on 11/03/2007, -2/+30Never heard of him before... and Im not a big NIN fan... but doing this sort of thing is exactly what I want, so before even listening to the free version, I paid the 5 bucks and downloaded the 320kbps MP3s... listening to it now... its not half bad though not really my style... still, i applaud what they're doing and will continue to support artists who follow in their steps. Also paid for the Radiohead album, that one i really digg...
- MScoutsDCI, on 11/03/2007, -1/+26Never heard the term "homage?"
- jsully, on 11/02/2007, -2/+24They did this so right. His website stayed up and is capable of handling the traffic, he let me use PayPal (I don't really want to give out a CC to every random site) I was able to get the download at ~ 1MB per second, AND I was able to chose 192Kbps, 320Kbps, or FLAC. Take notes RadioHead. You would have gotten money from me if you'd done it right from the technical side.
- thredden, on 11/02/2007, -0/+21isnt that the point of digg? to get the word out and let the people decide if its an ad you should hear/see or not? wtf? why all this negativity?
- Borbus, on 11/02/2007, -1/+21It is available in FLAC, if you pay the $5, which is fair enough. Try the MP3 for free, if you like it get the FLAC for a small cost. Much better value than a CD. Note that on the site it actually says you can convert this to other formats as you wish, unlike CDs, which you cannot copy or rip and encode for your MP3 player.
- acroyear2, on 11/02/2007, -2/+19Listening now... Amazing album. I've been waiting months for this.
- MScoutsDCI, on 11/02/2007, -1/+16This is not the equivalent of a new EA game at all. This album is not supported by any label at all, this is the ONLY way to publicize it. As far as I'm concerned, this is precicesly what SHOULD happen for albums like this. Think about it, is this not just word of mouth to the next power?
- jjremy, on 11/03/2007, -3/+16HOMAGE:
Pronunciation:
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2 a: expression of high regard : respect —often used with pay b: something that shows respect or attests to the worth or influence of another : tribute - his long life filled with international homages to his unique musical talent
You sir, are an idiot. - rwood757, on 11/03/2007, -3/+16Saul is one of my favs his Blend of Spoken word and hip hop and who knows what else is absolutely fantastic and im glad that finally i can support him with such ease
- oldhick, on 11/02/2007, -1/+13I don't think anyone is confusing the break from the industry with artistic talent. At least I haven't seen that yet. In fact I remember a Digg post about Madonna jumping ship and we tore her a new one right here on Digg.
In fact, I find your whole comment a bit ridiculous. Maybe you're bitter. But its 'the Industry" (as you call it) that grabs no talent *****'s and markets the hell out of them until they become household names. We've all been lucky that a few A&R people don't suck and have found some good groups like NIN to mix with the *****.
And as an independent musician, I am really blown away by your attitude. This "fake revolt" is what art and entertainment are all about. Lets get the middle men and the money grubbers out and lets get talented folks that can entertain for the love of entertaining back in. I've played around the country and a few different spots around the world and don't have a dime to show for it. But you don't hear me whining and complaining. I'll keep playing 'til I die and I'll be cheering on anyone who wants to do it on there own. - zinginitself, on 11/02/2007, -3/+15saul, you did it again! amazing!
- MrNexus, on 11/04/2007, -2/+14This is an awesome album. Well worth the $5.
- sequethin, on 11/05/2007, -1/+12saul williams is one of my favorite artists of all time. ever since I first heard him on the song coded language. Amazing how he brings issues to the table with his spoken word style with so many different styles of music (if with music at all.)
"What have you bought into? what will it cost to buy you out?" - damndj, on 11/03/2007, -1/+12Same here. Just goes to show what a great idea these sorts of releases are. I would have never touched this album had it not been available "free". if I like it, I'll pay for it.
- tgiles, on 11/02/2007, -2/+13Been listening to it this morning and started sharing with a co-worker (who's a big NIN fan).
I really like it. Worth the cash, I think. Support the cause! - MalDON, on 11/02/2007, -4/+15I don't really care for the style so much (it's too hard for me to program to), nonetheless, I will be sending them 20 dollars for the album. This is to show my gratitude for allowing me to listen to the entire album high quality for free, and without DRM. A few tracks sound as if Trent is in it. Can anyone confirm?
- elyod138, on 11/02/2007, -2/+12wow, the album is amazing, some of Saul's best work.
- thespotlightkid, on 11/03/2007, -3/+13you idiot.
- cugar, on 11/02/2007, -3/+13uh anyone? no. trent chose saul to open for him on tour because he liked his work. tent asked him if he wanted to collab while they were on tour. saul said yes.
but youd like that wouldnt you, fred and trent duets...wouldnt you. - robalesi, on 11/02/2007, -2/+12So let me get this straight. One of the MAIN reasons you like the album was the lack of frequency of a word. Not the music, not the poetry, not the beat.
Wow, you've just missed the point. - kerbonade, on 11/05/2007, -3/+13Got the FLAC version, liking the album so far :)
- simpleid, on 11/02/2007, -2/+12that's exactly what i was implying, i obviously don't think that trent didn't change whether or not there was good or bad hip hop. i mean jesus christ, wtf are you thinking?
"Its sad that in this day & age fantastic musice like Saul still isnt getting out to the listeners."
trent DID change the fact that music like Saul is getting out, hence i hear about it.
do you get it yet? - richardiscool, on 11/05/2007, -1/+11This is the future of the music industry.
- strOphe, on 11/05/2007, -1/+10I think it's worth paying anyone for their art when they make speeches like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ_o660d0oc
We need more Americans like this one. - centerblack, on 11/03/2007, -1/+10Posting your album on cdbaby and waiting for people to buy it isn't changing the ***** world either. The 'industry' is only concerned with money. That's why clearchannel sets up thousands of stations that pump out b.s. and collects the advertising. It's why DJ's are told what they can play. It's why I never hear local bands playing live on air.
Your embarassing online sales can be attributed to the fact that no one knows who the ***** you are, so no one is looking for you. Finding new music by searching on cdbaby is a pain in the ***** ass. That's why networks where music can be freely traded rocks! It's a lot easier for 20 people to find 1 band they like and share it with a million other people than it is for me to go and search through cdbaby and come up with 20 albums I think are good and get a million people to listen to me.
I don't see how this 'fake revolt' not in your best interest. If these so called 'industry tools' brings some attention the fact that there's all this great music out there that just isn't being pushed by a major label, then that increases the chances that someone is going to go on cdbaby, find your album, and tell someone else about it. - logicalnoise, on 11/03/2007, -2/+11.... it's rasically driven yes but the cd is more about being yourself and not being afraid of how people stereotype you. Yeah Saul uses the N word a lot but he's a poet first and he uses it as a weapon.
- coheedcollapse, on 11/02/2007, -0/+9I agree completely. If artists put out their albums totally independently like this, I'd buy FAR more albums than I do currently. I love the fact that I can try before I buy as well as the fact that I have the freedom to listen to the whole album before I decide to buy it.
I think the best thing in this instance is that I know none of my money is going to some greedy record exec. I can't wait until the RIAA dies. - Cymrubeats, on 11/02/2007, -1/+10I'm gonna have a listen first. To me that's one of the real benefits of doing it this way...to stop people buying blindly (deafly?...i bought the strokes album (is this it), based on hearing two tracks...never will i be anally raped again).
- Suchmann, on 11/05/2007, -3/+11This is fantastic. Best $5 I've spent in a while.
- coheedcollapse, on 11/02/2007, -2/+10I'm in that same exact position. I felt bad for clicking the "I don't care about that" link, but I'm too poor at the moment to be donating to anything. I'll probably go back and donate $5 or $10 if I like it when I get my paycheck.
- T8erT0T, on 11/02/2007, -2/+10At least someone is getting the online music gig right.
- jivemasta, on 11/03/2007, -0/+8God forbid somebody uses ***** , in a rap album. ***** is just a word, like love or *****. It is only given power by people afraid to use it, or those who abuse it. Language can change, and over time a good word can become bad, or a bad word can become good. I only say that because most people see words in a black and white shade, I think all words are good and are only used for good or bad. There is two different connotations to the phrase "Hey you, *****" depending not only how it is said, but who is saying it. Black people can say it, they have taken the word and made it their own. Its the white people that can't get past the guilt of their ancestors that make the word seem bad.
- cardyology, on 11/02/2007, -2/+10Saul is incredible!
Its sad that in this day & age fantastic musice like Saul still isnt getting out to the listeners.
Hopefully Trent is gonna change that.... :) - jjremy, on 11/02/2007, -1/+8HOMAGE:
2 a: expression of high regard : respect —often used with pay b: something that shows respect or attests to the worth or influence of another : tribute - his long life filled with international homages to his unique musical talent - IamBM, on 11/07/2007, -0/+7Everyone really should listen to Saul's first album it is still metal/industrial/hip hop and done amazingly well without Mr. Reznor. He is quite possibly the best MC out in a really long time. He understands that hip hop is supposed to shake the foundation which can't be said about most of the mainstream artists. I suggest downloads of Black Stacey, List of Demands, Act III Scene 2. Listen to his earlier work you won't regret it.
- inkyblue2, on 11/02/2007, -0/+7were you not around for the million and one posts about how ***** the RIAA is and how everyone is waiting for more artists to give the finger to the entrenched distribution channels? this is an article about someone who has.
- inactive, on 11/03/2007, -0/+7I will be the first to admit that David Bowie is one of my favorite artists of all time...but will you STFU?!? I'll bet money Bowie giggled his ass of when he saw the name of Saul's album...not to mention he probably felt honored by the homage.
You people need to crawl out from under your musical rock every now and then. (No pun intended.) - AustinMeoang, on 11/03/2007, -2/+9How exactly is it at all racist?
- scorintha, on 11/02/2007, -0/+7This isn't so much about advertising an individual album, but the way it's being distributed without major label support. If some star programmers from EA left, formed their own company and made their game available over the net without traditional distribution channels, I'd think that would be worthy of a digg as well. Wherever technology's being used to solve problems and eliminate middlemen, I know I'll digg.
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