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- vroom101, on 01/02/2008, -3/+136Hold on a moment...didn't we find out last week that this suit had nothing to do with "ripping [legally-owned] CDs to computer" OR is this an update to the case OR is this a completely different lawsuit?
- bfaulk04, on 01/02/2008, -3/+94The RIAA is a joke
- ReinMasamuri, on 01/02/2008, -2/+63Marked at innacurate
Gizmodo cleared this up
http://gizmodo.com/339477/even-the-riaa-isnt-balls ... - Kosterfield, on 01/02/2008, -2/+54It's the same lawsuit with the same incorrect understanding.
They're claiming because he ripped them from CDs to MP3 AND put them in the shared folder he is guilty.
They've not claimed just making it into an MP3 is illegal.... yet... - Tomboys, on 01/02/2008, -4/+54The music industry is so desperate right now.
- rlbigfish, on 01/02/2008, -3/+51That's a go ***** yourself, RIAA.
- drachemorder, on 01/02/2008, -5/+38Sheesh. Do these people WANT to be hated?
- Fanboy1, on 01/02/2008, -3/+25I hear he is counter-suing the RIAA for being jerks
- PinkFloydFan, on 01/02/2008, -2/+24Next week on Digg: Listening to CD's more than once is illegal. Each time you finish the CD, you need to throw it out the window, repurchase the album, and listen to it a second time.
- JayhawkerMS, on 01/02/2008, -6/+22Nope. Same story. People just hate the RIAA so much that they're willing to believe falsehoods if it supports their hatred of the RIAA.
- JayhawkerMS, on 01/02/2008, -2/+14I wish this damn story would die a permanent death. The RIAA is NOT suing him for ripping his CDs. The RIAA is suing him for sharing those ripped mp3s via a P2P program. The RIAA's argument is that by virtue of sharing those mp3s, they became unauthorized, regardless of the fact that the rips stemmed from a legal purchase, i.e., the CD. If you actually read the brief filed by the RIAA, and as a law student, I have done so, it's clear that what the RIAA is arguing and what is being tossed around on various news sites are two completely different things.
- lorductape, on 01/02/2008, -0/+10I think their secret agenda is to stop us from listening to music altogether, unless it's an 8-track.
- SocialPoison, on 01/02/2008, -2/+11Came here for that question, vroom101. Buried as inaccurate.
- elektriknoizz, on 01/02/2008, -1/+10Let's be honest: unless you were tried for file-sharing, and your computer was seized, how the hell could the RIAA know you ripped files from an audio CD to your computer without there being some sort of tracking device in the tracks? And that, IMHO, would be an invasion of privacy.
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+8Dear n00bs please don't use kazaa, morpheus , etc these are the RIAA's playground
- teaBagger, on 01/02/2008, -5/+13This is the reason why I have 99% moved from Digg to Reddit after being a Digg user since 2005
The amount of crud hitting the Digg front page is incredible and its increasing...
cya guys and gals.... - 68024, on 01/02/2008, -0/+7Funny though that it's on CNN as well.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2008/01/0 ... - 4degrees, on 01/02/2008, -0/+7concerts not corrupted? *cough* ticketmaster *cough*
- SideShowMel0329, on 01/02/2008, -0/+7*continues ripping CDs*
- Evacide, on 01/02/2008, -4/+10***** THE RIAA!
- DRock4776, on 01/02/2008, -1/+7Engadget busted this one as inaccurate.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/30/riaa-not-suing- ... - Misos, on 01/02/2008, -6/+12Rightly so. Bash them until they no longer exist. ***** the RIAA.
***** the DEA too, while we're at it. - roomforpanic, on 01/02/2008, -4/+9Bye teabagger.
- cstatman, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5will the douchebaggery never end?
- rosullivan, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5Yes, you should always buy TWO copies of a CD, so you can listen to it in each ear of yours. Only one-eared people should buy a single CD at retail.
- Superperson, on 01/02/2008, -1/+6How ***** shameless. My opinion is that once you buy music, it should be yours and you can do whatever you want with it. A point that is lost on these cash-hungry desperate sharks.
- tman84, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5What's a CD?
- pigfister, on 01/02/2008, -2/+7Sony the largest driving force behind the riaa/mpaa and the anti consumer DRM push have already stated that copying a cd in their opinion is ilegal.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071002-sony ...
FTA: Sony BMG's chief anti-piracy lawyer: "Copying" music you own is "stealing" October 02, 2007
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
and why £$£$£$£$£$£$ DRM = 1 licence per device 1licence per user!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKI_w_VBoTQ
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/29/ste...rt.html
Great creative commons (free) torrent about the record/movie industry can be found here: (downloads on the left!) http://www.stealthisfilm.com/Part2/ - Kronos6948, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5Lemme fix that for you:
Buy CDs from the bands themselves, not from record stores. That way you're supporting the artist. - Forklore, on 01/02/2008, -1/+6You mean stole it from the person I had sold it too after they jacked the price up 800%??
- santaliqueur, on 01/02/2008, -1/+5I was with you...until the last part.
- ngonzales80, on 01/02/2008, -0/+4"Once Defendant converted Plaintiffs' recording into the compressed .mp3 format and they are in his shared folder, they are no longer the authorized copies distributed by Plaintiffs."
The problem is putting the files in his shared folder not for merely ripping the tracks. - bbqsalad, on 01/02/2008, -3/+7***** THE RIAA.
- gr00vy, on 01/02/2008, -1/+5They were in the SHARED folder. This has nothing to do with Ripping, it has to do with being available for distribution, instead of actually consumed for distribution.
The RIAA may well be evil, but lets fight this one at a time. And yes the TGDaily has the wrong headline, actually show the correct facts, then come to the wrong conclusion. - falkonv7l, on 01/02/2008, -1/+5I got robbed on Christmas Eve and almost my entire CD collection was stolen, lucky me I "ripped" much of it onto my computer.
- rosullivan, on 01/02/2008, -2/+5The RIAA can SUCK IT... long and hard!
- cowsgonemadd3, on 01/02/2008, -0/+3Making another quick buck....than RIAA for puting people out of house and home since 19??
- Hoogs, on 01/02/2008, -1/+4Then what the heck is the point of even having to ability to rip and burn CD's? Shouldn't it be illegal for computers to have these features? Completely absurd...
- pigfister, on 01/02/2008, -1/+4you are supposed to destroy all duplicates if you have the originals stolen! well acording to sony!
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2005/11/now-legalese- ...
FTA:
Now compare that baseline with the world according to the Sony-BMG EULA, which applies to any digital copies you make of the music on the CD:
1. If your house gets burgled, you have to delete all your music from your laptop when you get home. That's because the EULA says that your rights to any copies terminate as soon as you no longer possess the original CD.
2. You can't keep your music on any computers at work. The EULA only gives you the right to put copies on a "personal home computer system owned by you."
3. If you move out of the country, you have to delete all your music. The EULA specifically forbids "export" outside the country where you reside.
4. You must install any and all updates, or else lose the music on your computer. The EULA immediately terminates if you fail to install any update. No more holding out on those hobble-ware downgrades masquerading as updates.
5. Sony-BMG can install and use backdoors in the copy protection software or media player to "enforce their rights" against you, at any time, without notice. And Sony-BMG disclaims any liability if this "self help" crashes your computer, exposes you to security risks, or any other harm.
6. The EULA says Sony-BMG will never be liable to you for more than $5.00. That's right, no matter what happens, you can't even get back what you paid for the CD.
7. If you file for bankruptcy, you have to delete all the music on your computer. Seriously.
8. You have no right to transfer the music on your computer, even along with the original CD.
9. Forget about using the music as a soundtrack for your latest family photo slideshow, or mash-ups, or sampling. The EULA forbids changing, altering, or make derivative works from the music on your computer. - yardape6, on 01/02/2008, -0/+3Look I hate the RIAA as much as anyone but this story is bogus. These are a few Links that explain what happened.
TechDirt:
http://techdirt.com/articles/20071231/124515.shtml
Technology Liberation Front:
http://www.techliberation.com/archives/043170.php - tehpyro, on 01/02/2008, -2/+5Sorry but if I came into your work and stole whatever it is you do you'd be pretty pissed too...
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -1/+41. This story is *****.
2. When you buy a CD you are not buying distribution rights to it, moron. You are effectively buying the piece of plastic that contains the tracks. You have to be a fcking idiot if you think that $12-16 gets your distribution rights. - actorboy, on 01/03/2008, -1/+4CNN is wrong then. They should have read the actual legal documents in the case instead of picking up on someone else's misinterpretation of them. The Howells are being sued for sharing CD rips through Kazaa, not for ripping CDs. Here is the document (pdf). http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDFfull.asp?filename= ...
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -1/+4A recording industry executive just read your posting and came in his pants.
- GreatSunJester, on 01/02/2008, -1/+4Isn't there already a court case (therefore COURT RECORD) of the RIAA saying it was OK to rip tracks for personal use?
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+2Exactly! Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon here without RTFA. Please folks, show me where in the RIAA's brief it says that simply ripping a CD is "unauthorized" or illegal.
- ferrariman60, on 01/02/2008, -1/+3Actually, that is the secret mission statement that is internal only. They thus guide every action, statement, and public activity towards the common goal of being the most hated group of people on the planet. Good news for them: They're quite good at doing this.
- Zlorp, on 01/02/2008, -1/+3the record industry hasnt even released music that id want to pirate in the last 5 years, why would i want to buy a cd and rip it?
- Tabris, on 01/02/2008, -0/+2It is...note the shared folder part. Sharing involves other people.
- Scorps111, on 01/03/2008, -1/+3My Balls smell...
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