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- Snoosy, on 03/11/2009, -9/+28As much as I love Radiohead, Trent Reznor is the champion of the fight against record labels.
- xOKxWhy, on 03/11/2009, -3/+21Out stealing guitar riffs?
- Stiles05s, on 03/11/2009, -0/+17Anyone that fights the labels is cool in my book. More power to Radiohead!
- ultraJesus, on 03/11/2009, -0/+12Probably not. It is completely ***** irrelevant though.
- Stiles05s, on 03/11/2009, -1/+12Radiohead is awesome.
- borez, on 03/12/2009, -2/+12What a stupid comment, music is not a game of one-upmanship. There is no battle between NIN and Radiohead over who's doing the best job of trashing the major labels. Both bands are at the cutting edge of a new music revolution. That's it, that's enough.
- Nateon, on 03/11/2009, -1/+11***** record companies, ***** the PRS and ***** the RIAA.
Glad I got that out of the way. - scarz99, on 03/11/2009, -1/+9Blur is active again? I thought they moved on/split up? (Gorillaz)
- whalefarmerjohn, on 03/11/2009, -0/+7Billy Bragg is all kinds of awesome
- mickstephenson, on 03/11/2009, -0/+6Comeback album later this year, Graham Coxon finally resolved his issues with the band
- Inflammo, on 03/12/2009, -0/+5Good for Radiohead (and Blur), more and more artists should be doing this. And putting out awesome music, as Radiohead does.
- bigfatphony19, on 03/11/2009, -1/+5Radiohead could murder puppies and I'd still love them.
Good for them though. - yocouchdigga, on 03/11/2009, -2/+6as much as I love Radiohead, I couldn't agree more.
- inactive, on 03/11/2009, -1/+5I think the struggle is that bands want to join the 21st century with their fans, but labels are too pig headed to let them distribute music in ways that does not involve forcing them to buy an entire CD
- wollsmosh, on 03/11/2009, -1/+4not a big fan of either, but i love them both for taking a stance.
- whalefarmerjohn, on 03/12/2009, -0/+3I think they've already won the battle against interesting or tolerable music.
- Ewingo401, on 03/12/2009, -0/+3That may very well be the best news I've heard all year.
- slangmann, on 03/11/2009, -0/+3that article was extremely short.
- bdbr, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2Its great that big bands are getting involved in this, because they really don't have to - they can make money the way Radiohead did (distribute their own products and reap the profits). They can get away with that because of their years of major label success. The new/lesser-known bands don't have that advantage, and major labels are trying to get a piece of every revenue source they have (touring, merchandise, etc).
- mickstephenson, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2Agreed, although I connect more with his politics than his actual music.
His guardian article mentioned in this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/1 ...
Other articles of his: http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/billybragg - shujin, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2delicious, delicious puppies
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2I... don't think you read the article.
- currentTVforall, on 10/03/2009, -0/+1I mean this in the most non-threatening manner:
its cool for established bands like radiohead and blur to say that "its going to expand the fanbase." of course it will because theyre already HUGE and have a huge fanbase already, theyre just trying to get everybody to listen to their music which file sharing will definetely enable. BUT what about new and upcoming bands who have a weak fanbase? They will never be able to have the power (which is $$) that bands like radiohead and blur have. And im not saying that the up and coming bands are greedy and they just wanna make money, but they DO need a good amount of cash to get theyre act off the ground (ie marketing, producing, touring, mixing, mastering, distribution...) where will they get the cash to jump start theyre careers if the fans arent going to help them? Yes, theyll make money from live, but that can only go so far, the only way these small bands could become the next radiohead or blue is that they sell out to labels, and isnt that what you "fans" are discouraging in the first place?
I just want people to see that piracy is really detrimental and impeding to new bands that strive to become the next radiohead, blur, or even beatles (and if you say that new bands shouldnt want to be as big as them, that doesnt make sense either, music is a career just like career and dont you wanna be the best you can be too?)
I know your initial reaction is going to be negative and yes the digg bandwagon for piracy is a huge influence but honestly are my points that irrational to consider???
love to your guys' opinions ;p - mickstephenson, on 03/12/2009, -1/+2This has nothing to do with TPB, infact if anything it is against TPB, it's about artists collecting royalties from companies that make money off of their content without paying anything to the artist.
The submitter has actually spun what they artists are standing for to get more diggs from "LONG LIVE TPB" zealots like you.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/mar/10/rad ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/1 ... - Humdain, on 03/11/2009, -3/+4Hm. Wheres Coldplay?
- AzzX, on 03/13/2009, -0/+1I got my head shaved.
- jessehadden, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1I listen to music from a few indie artists who are doing the same thing, very successfully... by not signing with the RIAA.
- sodade, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1We all hate the RIAA labels, but at the end of the day, the people with the real power to force them to change are the artists who made it and have limited contracts. Those mainstream artists have failed their fans and their future peers.
- verynegative, on 03/12/2009, -1/+2And sucking bags of dicks.
- browe07, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Even in your own examples it talks about both. They talk about artists getting a share from specific existing internet outlets which benefit without paying royalties AND it talks about the general idea of using the internet as a distribution method, which cuts out the fat cat middlemen who are greedily holding onto old models. Sure TPB would not benefit from this. But really, I hadn't even thought about it until now. Thats why I used the words UNTIL THEN. Because I'm talking about TPB as a means to avoid paying fat cats when the third option of paying the artists directly isn't available. What zealot ever said "I love the way it is, but I'm hoping for something better"?
- leamanc, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Correction: Graham Coxon is broke and needs some reunion cash. He still hates Damon with a passion, and will drink himself into oblivion for the entirety of the tour.
- mashedup, on 03/12/2009, -1/+1The Bard of Barking is a national treasure.
- borez, on 03/12/2009, -2/+1It's about time, music is meant to be heard, it's not all about the money.
- mashedup, on 03/12/2009, -4/+2I'm 5 years old!
- Shirleycakes, on 03/12/2009, -3/+1...despite CD's being a dying medium. I definitely see your point, but I stand by the fact that you have to think about these things before you sign anything.
Not a perfect example, but George Lucas back in the 70's negotiated rights to toys / posters / merchandise in general for the Star Wars series, which was unheard of. He made bank because he just happily guessed that it would be a future trend, as well as a great way to market his product.
With the rise of the internet as a medium the way it has in the past ten years, I'm surprised none of these bands had the foresight to make a similar move and secure distribution rights. As for newer bands, it's just damn ignorance.
Then again, most bands are just happy to get signed and give the label (essentially) the keys to their homes while they're at it. - xLSDx, on 03/12/2009, -2/+0Rule #1 : Do not sign contracts you don't agree with.
- qixx, on 03/11/2009, -2/+0Julien-K is fighting to change the music business as well
http://digg.com/music/The_Death_of_Analog_Music - browe07, on 03/11/2009, -3/+1Hopefully someday there will be a widespread method of distribution that cuts out the fat cat RIAA middlemen. Until then... long live TPB!
- Shirleycakes, on 03/11/2009, -6/+3More power to artists controlling their intellectual property, but every record contract includes terms for these kinds of things - I'm amazed when bands cry out that they've been hoodwinked over who owned rights to distribution when they signed away their share.
- buzzydotinfo, on 03/12/2009, -5/+0Blur, Radiohead and Billy Bragg all knew what they were signing up for. Record labels make their money by signing large numbers of bands and making money off the relatively few that become successful. Seeing the successful ones criticizing the industry that made them rich and famous is distasteful.
Much as I dislike the RIAA's approach to their customers, no one's forcing bands to sign anything. If you don't like the conditions that go with a big label, you're free to go it alone and be successful on your own terms.
Yes, I know I'm goingt to get dug down for this. - kingofinternet, on 03/11/2009, -8/+2what is this 1997?
- painting, on 03/11/2009, -17/+2Am I the only one doesn't "get" Radiohead?
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