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- dollaz, on 02/05/2008, -31/+164apple wants to eat the minds of babies
- rmeyers, on 02/05/2008, -16/+136again, the RIAA are just digging themselves into a deeper hole. money-thirsty F*#k bags.
- zyl0x, on 02/05/2008, -10/+130Four ***** percent?? That's insane! In what dimension does the sole creator of a product earn only four percent of their profits?? No wonder music is of such ***** quality now. Real musicians are being swindled out of their living. Try telling Tom Cruise he'll only be making four ***** percent of the profits from his next movie. You think he's crazy now?
- SSCrow, on 02/05/2008, -2/+111where is the guy that posts "***** THE RIAA"?
- cash0utcurse, on 02/05/2008, -8/+115Did you even look at the article? Apple is worse.
- Paranoidmarvin, on 02/05/2008, -5/+105I'll be using this excuse from now on:
"The artist makes so little money anyway, I might as well illegally download it" - sgxyay, on 02/05/2008, -1/+96I'm an independent artist and I get 65% off of iTunes and 100% off of my sales on my own website. Big record companies can suck my balls. Don't want em.
- HiKevinRose, on 02/05/2008, -25/+114Why don't we cut the producer's royalties to 0% so that we can give the artists what they deserve?
- adhiza, on 02/05/2008, -1/+78I'm right here, ***** the RIAA!
- Cyberdactyl, on 02/05/2008, -1/+48The RIAA truly is the music industry’s worst enemy in so many ways it's laughable. . .
Why? Let start with ol' Napster. It WAS the Microsoft of P2P. They owned 98+% of the file sharing community throughout the USA and probably the world. The RIAA could have. . . SHOULD have . . worked with the music industry and Napster.
Napster could have been the best, single source, marketing tool for the music industry in decades. All that was needed was to require members to share simple information such as demographic, general geographic location, interests, etc. it would have provided a plethora of critical marketing information. The RIAA then should have worked to curtail only the most egregious abusers. . those selling copyrighted music, etc. NOT attacking single mothers.
Instead the RIAA took a bat to the bee hive, scattering the so-called “file sharing criminals” to the winds.
Now, instead of a single valuable source of marketing information, they now deal with several P2P apps and billions of files flung to the wind.
It is becoming stunningly clear the RIAA is killing the music industry FAR quicker than little Susie at Berkley wanting a copy of Christina Aguilera’s Candyman.
The second major strategic blunder is attempting to shut down, or severely cripple net radio.
What would this mean in simple terms?
As we all know, there is a huge net radio market. . .that’s right. . .that listen to music, for the sake of argument. . . ‘free’. Does anyone see a similar scenario being played out?
Why yes boys and girls. . . an exponential explosion in file sharing piracy. Correct me if I’m wrong here, but I believe that’s the exact opposite of what the music industry wants.
Now this latest goof-ball idea.
From where I’m sitting, maybe the RIAA is really a conspiracy to KILL the music industry not to save it.
Look, the RIAA has evolved to nothing more than the music industries' knuckle-busting shake-down goons. . . pure and simple.
They obviously are way out of touch with the current music culture. They were given their marching orders a few years back and have little idea how to approach the piracy issue. The RIAA's MO will continue till someone gets a judgment against the RIAA with a crippling punitive award that forces them to re-think their stragegy.. - wukillabee, on 02/05/2008, -1/+44did you just reply to your own comment?
- wukillabee, on 02/05/2008, -3/+46FAIL.
- codyman, on 02/05/2008, -2/+43Who in their right mind would sign with the RIAA these days?
These days you could record an album (hell, use garageband, it sounds pretty dang good actually) and distribute it online without ever leaving your garage studio / never having to shake the hands of some greasy haired RIAA suit - Chaotyk, on 02/05/2008, -7/+47"Wants to"? Apple DOES eat the minds of babies.
- catalysis, on 02/05/2008, -1/+37Producers are considered artists along with people playing on the album. There is so much confusion here about the process of arranging and recording.
- staxofmax, on 02/05/2008, -2/+38I'd love to hear some of the fanboy arguments in the defense of Apple.
- Hobbes24, on 02/05/2008, -0/+34pretty soon all of their income will be from suing poor college students
- TomK88, on 02/05/2008, -2/+36Now's the perfect time for artists to create a new business model. With the innovations brought by the internet, it's no longer necessary to sign to a major record label. Promotion can be done solely online for pennies and distribution has never been easier.
- Bradl3y, on 02/05/2008, -2/+354% of profits from a movie would be a pretty good deal wouldn't it? Think of how many other people need to get paid for a movie.
- Zippo, on 02/05/2008, -0/+32Sorry I'm late. Traffic is murder.
- GeorgeClayton, on 02/05/2008, -2/+34It's only going to be a matter of time before some guy in his garage takes over the music industry in a huge way. I'm only surprised it hasn't happened yet.
- DoubleTap84, on 02/05/2008, -0/+31fffff... been using that excuse for years.
- inactive, on 02/05/2008, -10/+40***** apple.
- Systembomber, on 02/05/2008, -1/+28***** the RIAA!
- TheTaoOfBill, on 02/05/2008, -0/+26I have been consistently argueing against piracy because though you're taking money away from the RIAA, which I agree is run by a bunch of greedy capitalist pigs, you're also taking money away from the artist. Well if this is true and royalty rates drop to 4% I honestly can't see myself argueing against piracy anymore.
Just don't be a dick about it. Steal from the RIAA not from the artist. If an artist decides to go independent support them by purchasing their album and going to their concerts. Find any way you can to support artists who go independent. Buy their clothes. Hell send them a donation. Just support them. If an artist is part of the RIAA pirate the ***** out of them. I no longer care if it goes down to even 9% is way too little. ***** the RIAA. They deserve to go down in flames. If there is any aspiring musicians out there I hope you have the brains to hire a web developer over a record dealer. - ryan83189, on 02/05/2008, -1/+26Robin Williams is that you?
- heystoopid, on 02/05/2008, -9/+33Apple have always screwed and cheated on every one of their customers in sight dating back to the age of "Lisa" including the original owners of the record label as well !
- ShiningSquirrel, on 02/05/2008, -4/+28Call ***** all you want, but it's accurate. Apple and the other digital distributers are being doucebags and want to screw the artist even more.
This has been reported before, and by more then one source. If Apple and the others get what they want, they stand to see a huge increase in thier profits.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_displa ... - Rahodeb, on 02/05/2008, -9/+33Apple was the brainchild of Hitler and Stalin from a secret meeting in Hell. Just looking at the apple symbol causes cancer.
- AsSubtleAsABrik, on 02/05/2008, -0/+23RIAA Exec 1: People are downloading our product for free and we're losing profits!!!!!
RIAA Exec 2: God damn college students! How can we make up for this?
RIAA Exec 1: I've got it! Take even MORE money away from the people who create our product to begin with! - zyl0x, on 02/05/2008, -3/+25No, currently they still get 13%. When you pirate they get 0%. Which is less than 4%.
- rotten777, on 02/05/2008, -0/+21No self-promoting plug?
- juicebag, on 02/05/2008, -0/+21I agree. Buy a t-shirt or something from their website or go to one of their shows to actually support them.
- wukillabee, on 02/05/2008, -1/+21Dr. Dre deserve his cake, watchu thinkin *****?
- flammenwurfer, on 02/05/2008, -0/+18Yeah, I think 4% from a blockbuster movie would be a helluva deal. Tom Cruise plays one part in a movie. That's not anywhere near being the sole creator. The person tat wrote the script would be closer, and even then it's really close to being the same thing. A lot more people go into making a movie than writing a song.
- rotten777, on 02/05/2008, -0/+17Do you have any proof behind your statement there? Or is that just a fuzzy feeling you get when you read about Apple?
- Hobbes24, on 02/05/2008, -7/+24ugh, very close to digging you until i saw the Linux part at the end.
- blatantninja, on 02/05/2008, -10/+25Linux? You mean that operating system that completely locked up my P3 laptop last week when i tried to install it? I mean, hell, Windows ran for over 5 years on it with not a single BSD or system crash, how could I have expected Linux to actually install, much less run?
Linux is nice for somethings, but it has a LOOOOONNNNNGGGGG way to go before it is superior to Windows for the average user. - Rikkochet, on 02/05/2008, -1/+15How about because Apple isn't full of people with warm fuzzy love for musicians? They exist to turn a profit and by increasing artist shares per song sold that opens the opportunity for them to increase their own revenues.
Do you honestly believe that that artists bailing on their labels will make them grateful to Apple? That's like getting your wife fired so she has more free time to spend with you. She's not going to see you as her saviour, but as a greedy *****. - Bradl3y, on 02/05/2008, -5/+19So because the artist gets a small cut, you feel you have the right to give them no cut? Yeah, that sounds very logical. Quit trying to justify your actions, you are a thief, as am I.
- minoss, on 02/05/2008, -2/+16I hope they do. It will only push artists away from them. Let them dig their grave deeper.
- romistrub, on 02/05/2008, -0/+14Ahh, there you are.
- 9mmCensor, on 02/05/2008, -3/+17People that want to sell a lot of records.
- Rahodeb, on 02/05/2008, -0/+14That's not capitalism, that's fraud.
- hexydes, on 02/05/2008, -1/+15Artists - do something
Producers - do something
Studio technicians - do something
Art designers for album - do something
Studio - ??? - juicebag, on 02/05/2008, -0/+13Already happened. Whoever made the first P2P network.
- jjb123, on 02/05/2008, -1/+14This thread is full of win.
- zyl0x, on 02/05/2008, -0/+13Yeah, that was probably a bad example.
- aloser, on 02/05/2008, -0/+12Where am I and what happened to the Internet??
- tyrione, on 02/05/2008, -7/+19APPLE? Read the goddamn article from the Hollywood Reporter:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_displa ...
Excerpt:
The labels contend that the music publishers have gotten fat as their business has starved and want the payment method rewritten. According to papers filed by the RIAA at the Copyright Royalty Board, the labels want the board to reduce the rate to 8% of wholesale revenue. The current rate is about 9 cents per song, but it often is lowered in negotiations with the record companies. That money usually is split 50-50 between the publisher and the songwriter.
According to the Digital Media Assn.'s filings with the board, the digital music companies are seeking half of what the record labels want, telling the CRB that the rate should run in the 4% range for downloads.
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This percentage refers to the royalty paid to the RIAA, not to the actual song writers. What a piss poorly written article.
What's next? Will an article explain how the writers are striking because they want to get paid less? -
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