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- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -1/+65Soviet Russia > RIAA
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -1/+52What if the RIAA spent all the resources it is spending on suing people and countries and developed a new methods of making money from the existing technology?
Just a thought. - Tenlow, on 05/28/2008, -0/+38In Soviet Russia, the RIAA ***** itself.
- BlueTroll, on 05/28/2008, -9/+40***** THE RIAA
- pigfister, on 05/28/2008, -0/+19They have only dropped the case as they had NO legal bearing over the Russian site in its home country, as it was 100% legal as they paid royalties to the Russian royalty collection body ROMS, just because the IFPI cannot price fix this service, like it can with iTunes and Amazon ect does not make it illegal.
ROMS have on several occasions attempted to make payments to the IFPI (RIAA) but they have refused to collect the royalties from ROMS(Russian Organization for Multimedia and Digital Systems) as the IFPI are unable to price fix the service.
US law is not global RIAA, MPAA, IFPI, get used to it.... people don't like price fixing.
http://blogs.allofmp3.ru/music_news/2007...of-allo ...
FTA:
5 November 2007, 06:07
Court confirms legality of AllofMP3.com
On 24 October a district court in Moscow has confirmed the "no copyright infringement" verdict.
Earlier this year, on 15 August 2007 AllofMP3.com was acquitted of all charges brought up by IFPI. Consequently the Federation filed a protest on behalf of the labels. This protest was declined last week. This time IFPI promised to go as far as the Supreme Court.
This was yet another victory for AllofMP3.com in court.
Q. what is http://mp3sparks.com/ and http://alltunes.com/
A. AllofMP3 with a new name, so the IFPI have done diddly squat other than look stupid and greedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllOfMP3
http://blogs.allofmp3.ru/music_news/2008...st-allo ...
FTA:
AllofMP3.com welcomes the decision of record labels to voluntarily dismiss their $1,65 trln lawsuit against the site.
On May 23 Sony BMG Music Entertainment, Warner Music Group Corp., Vivendi SA and EMI Group Plc. decided to drop their copyright case filed in federal court in Manhattan (Bloomberg.com).
Some time ago the AllofMP3.com services had to be suspended due to litigation.
There’ll be more updates on the development of the situation.
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Anti-Consumer companies to boycott listed here;
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - RandomGorilla, on 05/28/2008, -0/+18Because that would make sense.
- lolinyerface, on 05/28/2008, -0/+17*sigh*
In soviet russia, riaa runs and hides from you. - TheHogester, on 05/28/2008, -0/+17If there was a solution that people were happy with, then they would pay for it. For me to pay for digital music, they need to make the quality better and the pricing needs to be re-evaluated. Until then, the RIAA are pissing in the wind.
- yunus, on 05/28/2008, -0/+11You mean basically an American version of allofmp3 where people can choose their format and pay reasonable prices.
- ExSlashdotter, on 05/28/2008, -3/+13I havent visited AllOfMp3 since it got shut down last time. Maybe this time i'tll come back and stay. Went to MP3Fiesta for a while after that.
Just goes to show, I'm willing to pay a fair price for good quality, DRM-free music downloads. I just don't care who from. - Apocrypha, on 05/28/2008, -0/+10Since when does the ***** US entertainment industry dictate policy of any kind to other countries? Bloody ridiculous.
- Testiculese, on 05/28/2008, -0/+9I've spent over $300 at AllOfMP3. 320vbr/FLAC/OGG. No DRM. Thousands and thousands of artists. The A section has like 2000 artists by itself. An excellent preview system. A great search. Album art (I just snag the album image on the download page). $0.20 a song on average.
Until the RIAA adopts AllOfMP3's model, I'M NOT BUYING A SINGLE TRACK from any criminal American company...I'd rather hand my money to "pirates". Better deal, better quality, better purchase. - d0ugfunny, on 05/28/2008, -1/+9The RIAA needs to focus on the future rather then sustaining the past... People are willing to pay a fair price for DRM free music. I think with pushers like NIN and Radiohead who are breaking away from Record companys and developing new ways to get music in our hands cheaper while they make more money, we can go far.
- AndrewJC, on 05/28/2008, -0/+8I don't know how much AllOfMP3 charged for its songs, but the Amazon MP3 service (while probably charging more at $0.89/song, sometimes less if there's a special going on) is exactly what you're describing, in my opinion.
- dazparkour, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6I have warned you about creating paradoxes before. It's not cool and you will destroy us all.
- sodade, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6This is exactly what they should do. I've spent hundreds of dollars on russian websites, but I haven't bought a new CD in over 10 years. A buck a song is ***** laughable - I could easily afford to pay it, but I won't because it is a rip off.
- TheInformer, on 05/28/2008, -1/+7I've used AllofMP3 and MP3Sparks. Not the largest collection of music, but no DRM and selectable quality levels make it a fav of mine.
- pigfister, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6please call them who they really are, let ppl know anti-consumer to boycott.
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - Mier, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6Too bad mp3sparks payment system is broke or disabled for US IPs.
- Ratteler, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6Then they would still loose. The reason? Believe it or not... it's NOT just about the money.
Mass Media controls the information we all have, and through that control we are ALL controlled to some level.
The internet threatens THAT! It's seems insane, but by measuring HOW MUCH dissent we are allowed, they keep those in power IN power.
The internet and this Person 2 Person networking is a threat to the entire information infrastructure. Once we can spread ideas without their consent and marketing controls, they have truly lost power.
So the Big Lie is, "We need to stop piracy, cause we're loosing money." The Big Truth is they need to stop channels of distribution because controlling knowledge is the REAL power. - roodammy44, on 05/28/2008, -1/+6Isnt that what they get from the RIAA anyway? A few cents per song?
I'd call it a fair price. Distribution costs are close to zero, marketing is viral and production can be done on a laptop these days.
If a site like allofmp3 became globally popular, artists could sign up and completely bypass the irrelevant RIAA - ColorBlind, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5*GASP*
THE WORLD IS FLAT!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO - Testiculese, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5Are you kidding?? The A's on MP3Sparks is over 1000 artists! I've found things there I've been looking for for YEARS.
- Testiculese, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5A dollar a song, and 6-7% goes to that artist. Do the math. The RIAA wanted it lowered to 4%. AllOfMP3 gave the artists 50%. They charged more than a cent or two, unless you buy the really ***** quality. Full 320vbr mp3's were 25-30 cents a song. Buy the album, and it cost about $5, which is about what it should cost. Let's compare:
50% of $5 = $2.50 for the artist.
or
6-7% of $15 = 95 cents for the artist. - HippyJM, on 05/28/2008, -1/+6***** the RIAA.
***** WTO
while we are at it;
***** the FCC - boobsbr, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5"An excellent preview system."
Music for the Masses was awesome.
"$0.20 a song on average."
Amazing prices.
"Until the RIAA adopts AllOfMP3's model, I'M NOT BUYING A SINGLE TRACK from any criminal American company."
Took the words out of my mouth. - smotpoker1, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3the riaa and the diplomats that did this should be arrested for conspiracy to commit fraud.They do not have absolutely no say so in state affairs and the diplomats have taken bribes.This crap has got to stop.***** you riaa I hope you belly up and discombobulate.
- boobsbr, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3from pigfister's comment:
"They have only dropped the case as they had NO legal bearing over the Russian site in its home country, as it was 100% legal as they paid royalties to the Russian royalty collection body ROMS, just because the IFPI cannot price fix this service, like it can with iTunes and Amazon ect does not make it illegal."
Under Russian law it was legal, they paid the royalties to the correct collection body, the ROMS. - aladrin, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3Most people that -you- know, maybe. Most people I know would gladly pay for 2 reasons:
Ethics.
Supporting the artist.
I don't even need to explain either of those, that's how common those thoughts are. - Sinudeity, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3Apartheid > RIAA
- dazparkour, on 05/28/2008, -2/+4That is one compressed title.
- RoroCo, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2I used to pay all the time for AllOfMP3 tracks. You had the ability to download CD quality tracks which are hard to find on torrent sites.
Personally, I would use iTunes if it weren't for the ridiculous pricing model. I like buying music to try out, but at 99 cents per track, I could only afford to buy the music I already knew I liked.
i hope they start accepting credit card payments at AoMP3 soon. - p0tent1al, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2Because when anything goes wrong, the best way is to sue
- rayraym0fucka, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2You can get free music from these sites. There is an article in the latest 2600 on it.
- DestroyFascism, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2NOD 32 Blocks it. lol....Flips back to Linux...
- zebbers, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2I see what you did there.
- 8347, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2If only the US could be as free as Russia!!
- Modulo, on 05/30/2008, -0/+2because there is no reasonable place now for record companies. they think they are marking off the territory they will be forced to hold, but what they don't realize is that they have basically walled themselves into their own graveyard of obsolesce. Pump my gas, flip my burgers and mow my lawn, you ***** suits, while the dirty hippies will now actually start getting paid for making the world a better place without you swooping in and hoovering up the lions share of the profits.
- blarch, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1"pissin in the wind" by jerry jeff walker is a very relevant song, well, part of it. hilarious song anyway if you can find it
- Ratteler, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1At least it SHOULDN'T be.
- boobsbr, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1i thought allofmp3 was huge, found so much 80's stuff at ridiculous prices, wish it lasted longer, mp3spakrs doesn't seem so big.
- Testiculese, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1Really? Maybe I'm mixing up the two, I haven't been there since they changed from Mstercard to Mastercard Euro.
- TheInformer, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1I'm in the US and dont seem to have any problem using my VISA to add $$$ to my account.
- gubatron2, on 06/03/2008, -0/+1***** THE RIAA!!! Grrr!!!
- elektriknoizz, on 05/28/2008, -1/+2I don't know if you're joking or not, but either way, "Nineteen Eighty-four" is not a way of life.
- staeiou, on 05/28/2008, -7/+8I prefer the analysis of this at Ars Technica http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080527-with ... They said that the RIAA achieved their purpose, as they got Russia to change their laws in order to prohibit this sort of thing. Ars also pointed out that MediaServices has no money for them to take after a lawsuit. Why sic your $500/hr lawyers on a company that has nothing to give you? The RIAA also reportedly told Ars that "a new case is currently underway against the next MediaServices boss after Kvasov, one that is based on the updated laws."
And I can't seriously believe people who say that Allofmp3, who charged a cent or two per megabyte and never gave any of it to the artists, are a shining example of legal music sales. Yes, I hate DRM, yes, I hate a dollar a song, but a few cents a song is not a fair price for the artists. - thesonofdarwin, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Doing anything special? Doesn't seem to be IP detection, just seems the CC option is completely disabled.
- boobsbr, on 05/28/2008, -1/+2"US law is not global RIAA, MPAA, IFPI, get used to it.... people don't like price fixing."
Very well said, the sooner the uneducated "Americans" (lots of "Americans" are educated, but like in every country there are also lots of ignorant, uneducated people) learn this, the less trouble they'll start around the world. Even better if everyone in the world would learn that, so they would also stop trying to meddle in foreign affairs that do not concern them. - lcmatt, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Don't worry we have to pay around 80p ($1.60 approx) in England.
- ep53, on 05/29/2008, -1/+1I didnt,care to explain?
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