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RIAA: CDs Don't Cost Nearly Enough

whas11.com — The cost of a CD should be exponentially higher, according to the RIAA.

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  • ldavid, on 10/12/2007, -12/+392Just another reason for people to start downloading more music for free rather than purchasing it...
  • swiftekho, on 10/12/2007, -6/+277PLEASE RIAA! Please seal your own coffin!
  • Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+182I stopped buying music because the RIAA gets its share. The message to the artists is: Boycott the RIAA or I boycott you.
  • Shizlanski, on 10/12/2007, -32/+208Although I dont like the RIAA's practices, you SHOULD pay for your music. Even if you buy it cds or itunes, etc you should pay. what you shouldnt need to pay for is DRM infested crap that you arent legally allowed to backup etc.
  • bitt3n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+168They should just cut out the middleman and teach their lawyers to sing.
  • nzknzknzk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+162ATTN: RIAA

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  • CraigJ, on 10/12/2007, -11/+162I think Bit Torrent is just the right price
  • squirrelza, on 10/12/2007, -7/+83RIAA are so ridiculous it almost seems as if they are just kidding. "Sir, lets tell teh internetz we think CD prices should be higher, that will piss them off!"
  • coinman987, on 10/12/2007, -4/+77That make sense, raise the price of Cd's which already cost way to much for 1 or 2 good songs, sue the customers, and short change the artists by lowering royalties they receive. well it looks like its a win win situation to me. everybody looses except for the RIAA.
  • an0nymous, on 10/12/2007, -7/+77Ken Kutagari:
    "It's probably too cheap."

    Hmm..
  • weareglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+68Other important things to remember:

    1) Price of physically manufacturing CDs has dropped massively (now pennies on the dollar)

    2) When introduced, labels insisted that though CD prices were high, they would drop as the technology became cheaper. This did not happen to any great extent until a lawsuit accusing the major labels of price collusion was won.
  • biohzrd, on 10/12/2007, -22/+85Shizlanski: Such as the iTunes DRM infested crap?
  • Shizlanski, on 10/12/2007, -5/+54Obviously i meant shouldn't in the above comment, lol.
  • bobzibub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+47Well, there are other avenues like this site:

    http://cdbaby.com/about
    "Cool thing: in a regular record deal or distribution deal, musicians only make $1-$2 per CD, if they ever get paid by their label. When selling through CD Baby, musicians make $6-$12 per CD, and get paid weekly."

    I have nothing to do with them other than being a happy customer....

    -you can listen to generous portions of most of the songs on a cd.
    -pay musicians.
    -have great selection.
    -they run open source
  • biohzrd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47What are all of these for...? Do you have a termination phobia.....?
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38You can tell the music industry knows NOTHING about economics. If they lowered the price of all music CDs to $5 they would sell so fast they wouldn't be able to make enough of them...

    Raise the price...You sell LESS
    Lower the price...You sell MORE

    DOH!
  • Godspeed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+313 words


    ***** THAT *****
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28That's an easy theory to test. Raise the price. See how many CDs you move at $33.
  • Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30"Not defending the RIAA here, but there's much more costs behind making a record than just the cost to manufacture the CD's. A LOT of money goes into it."

    Yeah, you have to illegally pay off the radio stations, buy up failed albums to make the sales numbers look higher, pay yor accountants to cook the books so you don't have to pay the actual performers, and those poor, hard working RIAA execs need their huge salaries. And don't forget the lawyers!
  • ExtremeRyno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28That's an Internetz Poem...
    Live teh future...
    Be the ellipsis...
    Be teh win...
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26Supply and demand doesn't really apply here.. There's no "demand" or shortage of CDs. If a CD was considered "rare" and sold for $100 everyone would just p2p it. No one's going to be lining up buying artificially limited CDs.
  • armyturtle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30I do pay for my music - at allofmp3.com where it isn't diluted with DRM to the point that I can't move it around or use it how I see fit. The RIAA can raise CD prices all they want; they can also kiss my ass because like so many millions of people they've pissed off I'll never buy another one.
  • chazcross, on 10/12/2007, -2/+241. Raise the price of a CD
    2. The number of people downloading illegally goes up
    3. Got an even bigger pool of potential people to sue
    4. Profit

    Looks like they are adjusting their biz model well.
  • GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23They are two different things. Sony was saying that the console was being sold at a lower cost then it was manufactured for.

    The RIAA is saying "Hay everybody! Watch us as we ***** our fanbase over and make us look like greedy *****!"
  • Revan01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19This makes no sense... i thought it was common knowlege that they priced themselves right out of the cd market....

    i mean hell, even movies are cheaper than CD's. is it any wonder that we download?
  • drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Nobody pays 20 pounds for a CD in the UK.
  • Kyderdog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17But before they raise the price they need to raise the talent.
  • Mangurian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I know a little about the recording industry and I can tell you that the same mentality that permeates the US auto industry prevails.

    1-They produce, in general, a substandard product and feel that the public is obligated to pay for it.
    2-They want to justify their own bloated salaries and are desperate to maintain funds to do that.
    3-Large recording studios (some owned by labels) have lost much of their value due to tech developments and software like Pro Tools.
    lastly,
    4-These folks (including, in this case, the performers) are so detached from the real world that they have trouble making rational marketing decisions.
  • Konrad9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Unless a significantly higher percentage goes to the artists, I'll be buying my music through other means.
  • Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Probably, but its a magical new technology. Anything thats new will cost more.
  • Jeuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13What I want to know is where are all the artists who are against "advantage taking corporations"?
    Hiding in your closet and counting your bills?

    There should be a "***** THE RIAA" massive festival and every decent group of musicians should play it. Free entrance. Free booze. (okay, maybe not)
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Didn't Sony say that about the PS3?

    What, exactly, happened to the world? Did everyone take stupid pills or something, and why was I not informed?
  • sinisterhand, on 10/12/2007, -22/+34It is spelled LOSE not loose. Did you read the top 10 misspelled words on the internet that was on digg last week? Guess not.
  • Kamisado, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12While its hardly $33, most CDs in the UK cost 12 pounds, which is about $23.

    I usually just buy the vinyl version and download the digital version illegally. That way I get a better product with more artwork and a more tactile feel at the same price, but I'm still able to shove it on my iPod.
  • regedit2D, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13so pay $5 for 3 versions of the same song, and have to keep up with over 300 CD's in my truck? When I could just download and burn my favorites on 1 CD and spend a lot less money by downloading through an online music store.
  • TheTap, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Download music? How can we? Napster was shut down and the RIAA claims big victory after big victory.

    Ha! All those asses did was make it easier since newer and better P2P technologies filed the gap.

    The best part of all - I know that they seeth every night when they go to bed because there is nothing they can do to stop it.

    Makes my smile a little bit bigger with each new tune I snag off of a Torrent.
  • HP844182, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11They'd sell a hell of a lot of merchandise....I know I wouldn't be able to leave until I had a ***** THE RIAA Festival shirt.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11A 2 liter bottle of Coke has been 99 cents for as long as I can remember. This has always bothered me.
  • Riffraffs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11yes
  • evil-doer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11no, they were never that much
  • diggless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11the recording industry is just scared as they are not necessary any more, at least in the current incarnation. A musician can now afford a reasonable recoding studio in their home. they can afford their own digital distribution.

    the last thing would be for an independent itunes style marketing platform.

    the RIAA is the manifestation of the collective fear in the recording industry
    they only thing you have to fear is fear itself.... well we have a physical manifestation of an entire industries fear terrorizing the customers which they hope to extract funds from. I for one spend money on music, but would spend more if i knew it was making it to the artists.
  • Nerevar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9JasonPrini: you clearly never took an economics class worth its salt. When you decrease the price of a good like this, the demand almost always increases.

    I do agree that if they priced CDs at $5 a piece I would buy a lot more of them.
  • hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9http://www.riaa.com/news/marketingdata/cost.asp
    >A typical music fan who buys a CD might use that CD at home, take that CD in the car, make a tape of that CD, – or using it as part of a compilation, play that CD with friends and for friends, and keep that CD for many years.

    A typical music fan might, but the RIAA wants everyone to believe that "make a tape of that CD, – or using it as part of a compilation, play that CD with friends and for friends" are all illegal. They also don't doo much in the department of ensuring that CD's are made well enough to be kept for many years.

    >That’s probably why most consumers, when asked, describe CDs as a good value.
    Now that's just made up inside the RIAA's head.
    >At the same time, when asked directly whether CDs cost too much, some consumers will say yes! Why the contradiction?
    Because the first statement is made up inside the RIAA's head?
  • eddyc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The RIAA and the MPAA are just glorified investment bankers, they dont give a crap about what theyre selling as long as it makes them money, they have no respect for the artists or some of the so called art they peddle, as a musician myself I cannot wait until they and companys like MTV die. They have no taste , they sell to the lowest common denominator , music will always be here and as long as people are in it for the music and not the money there will be a lot more good music too.
  • NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Actually, ironically, they really CAN'T raise the price because of everyone's OTHER favorite business whipping-post, Wal-Mart. They sold the CDs at a loss and put the small record store out of business, and now the music industry CAN'T afford NOT to sell to Wal-Mart, and Wal-Mart demands lower prices on CDs.
  • lifewithout, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10It's how you write the way Jeff Goldblum talks.
  • eswolford, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I want the RIAA to explain to me why a direct to DVD movie is under $20, which includes it's own soundtrack (sometimes original) and they want the same for a CD. I am pretty sure it takes more to make a movie then record an album.
  • cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@Shizlanski - Not quite there bucko. CDs do NOT have DRM. That was the reason the Sony discs that had the root kit drm on them didn't have the CD logo on them anywhere. They couldn't use the licensed logo unless it followed the standard format, which means no DRM.
  • gwinerreniwg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8*cough* www.allofmp3.com *cough*
  • logomancer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"the last thing would be for an independent itunes style marketing platform."

    You mean, like Magnatune?
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