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- c3rb85, on 10/08/2009, -0/+17They said if you invested you would see a share of revenue plus a numbered copy of the album
- inactive, on 10/08/2009, -1/+15Shows how much of an ignorant ***** you are. They are anti-materialists
- borez, on 10/07/2009, -3/+16Great idea, but $250,000 seems an excessive amount to record an album nowadays. Especially for a rap album.
- okpgreg, on 10/07/2009, -1/+14You couldn't make it to the second paragraph?
"In return, fans who invest in the album will receive a share in the revenue of the album, as well as a numbered copy of it." - borez, on 10/08/2009, -0/+10I know how much it costs mate, I do it for a living.
In London, right now, you can get fully kitted out Neve and SSL rooms with an Engineer and assistant ( who 9 times out of 10 can do a better job then an old skool producer ) for £250-£500/day + there are kids out there doing cutting edge fat beats ( not like that pony ***** you hear in the charts ) who'd kill for a chance to do something like that for points and a nominal fee. Good session musicians are only a couple of hundred a day and mastering an album will only cost you £1000 or so. And if we're all aware virally that there's a new album coming before they've even raised the money, your marketing budget will be next to nothing.
That budget is totally excessive, it's not like it was ten years ago.
To be honest, you'd have thought they'd be able to raise the money instantly from a publisher. I don't understand their need to profit share this way. - YourNameHere1, on 10/08/2009, -1/+11Exactly. If Radiohead or Trent Reznor was doing this then you would see nothing but comments praising them. But since this is an article about rap music on digg, then all you get is the Kayne crowd.
- itschop, on 10/07/2009, -0/+8RTA
- YourNameHere1, on 10/08/2009, -0/+8How are you getting 5 diggs for this comment?
Have you even looked at that picture? Show me one piece of gold jewelry or diamond jewelery on any of the 6 men in that photo..... All you see is one normal clock/stopwatch on Flavor Flav.
In fact, use a google image search for Public Enemy and count the number of "bling" items that you suggest they sell.....
Or how about the fact that they have never bragged about money, diamonds, gold, jewelry, crack, ho's, or cars in any of their songs.
You obviously have never listened to Public Enemy, or you're just into posting racist comments on the internet..... or maybe you just like to show the world how ignorant you are when you claim that Chuck D has "bling".
Who even use the word "bling"? - boozedrinker, on 10/07/2009, -3/+11WTF? You're telling me Flava Flav can't afford this ***** from his paychecks from the 12 reality shows he did? ***** *****.
- CoreyTamas, on 10/07/2009, -0/+7I'm not so sure you understand as much about how this works as you think you do. But go on calling everyone pieces of *****. It's cute.
- jedinate, on 10/07/2009, -1/+8I'm pretty sure they are recording the album for very little ( you can't tell me they don't own THEIR OWN studio or equipment) and just want to guarantee $250,000 in profit, before it hits BitTorrent. That's more than they would make off a quadruple platinum album on a label (and this won't SELL 4 Million copies anyway)
- darkciti2, on 10/07/2009, -2/+9This is interesting. It's a new business model for musicians and if this works it could lead to a new way to raise capital to create a record. It's kind of like when a company goes public on the stock market. Except that it's not the stock market and not really a company.
I know of a few great bands that stopped making albums when their labels refused to continue funding/marketing them. I know I'd pre-pay for an album from one of those bands (Machines of Loving Grace, Stabbing Westward, etc). It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. - mlarsen, on 10/07/2009, -11/+17Don't fans already "fund" the albums by buying other albums/t-shirts/concerts? I agree, I will invest $$$$, but I want a cut of the profits that are proportional to what I invested. I don't think they will go for it-
- toleshei, on 10/08/2009, -0/+6Bass! How low can you go?
- Fleagleman, on 10/07/2009, -2/+8I can't do nuttin' fo ya, man.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/08/2009, -0/+5^^^
Butthurt. - SPLASTiK, on 10/08/2009, -0/+5Death row, what a brother knows
- inactive, on 10/08/2009, -0/+5It pays to pay attention!!!!
- borez, on 10/08/2009, -0/+5Well considering auto-tune didn't even exist when they did it the first time around...
- c3rb85, on 10/08/2009, -0/+4@ borez
Damn studio time is cheap over there. In the US in LA on the low end to block out the day it would be $500-700, obviously Public enemy isn't going to go for the low end studio (even though they could turn out the same thing in a high end).
Agreed they could do an album for a lot less, and they could easily get a publisher behind them and give them an advance on the album. It's an interesting idea but I'm sure there will be a lot of problems with people actually receiving correct shares of revenue and so fourth. - CrimsonBlur, on 10/08/2009, -2/+6Why am I being buried? There are a lot of issues with this. First of all, under this model, why in the hell would it cost over $200,000 to record an album? Where is the money actually going? This kind of thing is just a huge ripoff to the people paying in because they have absolutely no control over the final product after donating. What if the album sucks? You don't get your money back, and you can't demand they go back and start over like a record label can.
- Mayday408, on 10/08/2009, -1/+5"Bury me", "You know I'm right"
Oh retarded newbs, when you learn?
You see, if we AGREE or LIKE what you have to say, then we digg up.
If we DISAGREE or DO NOT LIKE what you have to say, then we digg down, ala bury.
Apparently, people don't think you are right, but it's OK because you already saved your self esteem from dropping any lower with that comment. Looking at your account, it appears you're just a spiteful hateful kid who got banned from 4chan, and you think you found a new home here.
In b4 LOLITROLLU HURRR - roydog316, on 10/08/2009, -0/+4I, for one, think this is a genius idea. I am investing $25 toward the creation of the album. In return I get the album, plus a share in revenue from the project, assuming it's profitable. It's it a better idea than shoveling money to the labels and the RIAA?
- RudeTurnip, on 10/07/2009, -1/+5This sounds very exciting and I am going to tell my friends about it. Looking at the site, however, I don't see any details on how profits are shared. For example, are there provisions for a return of capital and then they get paid?
- EddiePotato, on 10/08/2009, -0/+4That's actually true. It's now possible to buy all the gear you need to make a professional sounding album for under $5k, and you can promote and distribute it from your living room.
Why would anyone want to fund another person's three month vacation at a cushy recording studio when there are thousands of artists busting their asses working day jobs and recording themselves at home studios in their free time?
Support the little guy that supports himself. - RudeTurnip, on 10/08/2009, -0/+4Looks like we know Bernie Madoff's Digg name now.
- liquidm, on 10/08/2009, -0/+4Once again, back, its the incredible
- inactive, on 10/08/2009, -0/+4I think this is actually a good, pro-capitalist idea.
Let's see how it works. - bigteebo, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3He's probably paying child support for all the 12 kids he has. I wonder how his kids feel when they see him on VH1 macking on skanks.
- inactive, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3I did it the quick way, you did it the long painful way, I love it!!!!
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/07/2009, -1/+4How do you figure?
- ramilehti, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3Rhyme animal.
- YourNameHere1, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3^ What an idiot. Auto-tuning Chuck D... hah! I don't ***** think so.
- YourNameHere1, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3To be fair, I forgot about the gold teeth. I still think you're off on your take of Public Enemy.
Don't get me wrong, most artists do like to get paid and live a comfortable life, but it doesn't mean that some of them haven't put an effort into creating a form of art and beliefs that are different than the ***** that popular culture is being feed, or that they haven't put money back into the community in one way or another.
As for Michael Moore, I think Matt Taibbi said it best in his blog: http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/10/06/michael ... - inactive, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3stupid people like you are funny, and i don't assume you as humorous
- bkurilko, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3"All you need is a mac" ??
"#fail" ????
DIY recordings in garageband with the embedded mic on your macbook is not a solution to producing a recording you expect people to pay for. Then again, this is public enemy we're talking about, so maybe nobody would notice. Also this is not twitter. - steelreserve211, on 10/08/2009, -1/+4Chuck for Gods sake have some dignity. I saw you open for the Fresh Fest in '85. Do you see the Rolling Stones
asking for money to front their new album? - VentcoreFrog, on 10/08/2009, -1/+4Gangsta rapper? Looks like someone has no idea what Public Enemy is about.
- CoreyTamas, on 10/08/2009, -0/+3I always love that guy on Digg who says something completely stupid and then follows it with "BURY ME!" As if to say "You think you are burying me because I am in the wrong or I'm an idiot... but it's really because I command you to! Dance puppets, dance! I HAVE THE POWER!"
So I buried him. Who am I to say no to such infallible logic? - EricSchC1, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2"Hell I didn't even click on the article, thanks for saving me the effort."
Stop asking retard questions then. - Natru3al, on 10/08/2009, -1/+3Their last album was actually pretty good easily their second best.
- bklny, on 10/08/2009, -1/+3When it comes to PE I look at as if I am giving money to a good cause
- inactive, on 10/08/2009, -1/+3███ D █ I █ G █ G ██ A █ L █ E █ R █ T ███
***We have a ***** in our midst, use anti-stupidity counter measures!!!!!*** - burden555, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2I read that in a Peter Griffin tone and thought it was funny.
- bigteebo, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2How about we buy a share of "Public Enemy" stock, and if the album sells blockbusters, the stock rises that we can sell for a profit?
- bkurilko, on 10/08/2009, -1/+3I would expect a group of talented, but underfunded musicians to participate in something like this. Public Enemy? Do a ***** Norton commercial like Dokken or something, you're already famous enough.
- inactive, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2HIP HOP HISTORY LESSON 40080!
Flavor Flav is the "COURT JESTER" of the group, his purpose in the group makes fun of the "bling bling" that was running rampant during that time (1985 to 1990). But like the other emerging Hip Hop artists that emerged like KRS-One, A Tribe Called Quest and De La Soul, he had "his" way of denouncing the materialism that was the 80's!!!
CLASS DISMISSED! - bubbameister33, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1They would have to market the album too, right?
- borez, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1@c3rb85: Yep, there is so much competition out there nowadays. And £500 for a Neve or SSL room is definitely not low end. Especially considering you can set up a Mac system with logic pro and a damn fine recording environment for about £20,000 + you get all the time in the world to record without the pressure of studio time costing you.
But I guess these people need to feel like stars, which begs the question: Why can't they raise money like stars? - Kimera2006, on 10/08/2009, -0/+1Yes i can, I'm just wondering about the actual model of the plan, personally i think 25 bucks is a lot to ask for fans and yea you get a copy and entitled to "a share of the profits" but albums don't sell like they used to.
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