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- DivemasterDoug, on 06/10/2009, -6/+165As a grown adult he choose to be as stupid as he wishes. It's when parents use religion to deny treatment to children that cannot decide for themselves that I have a problem.
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -3/+159“He’s popping pain killers and hoping it will all go away.”
Idiot. - imikedaman, on 06/10/2009, -3/+124Are we supposed to feel sorry for him or something?
- anexanhume, on 06/10/2009, -3/+103The artist formerly known as standing.
- mogdor, on 06/10/2009, -11/+107Alternate title: "Prince refuses common sense due to retardation"
- harrisbradley, on 06/10/2009, -5/+98There goes his basketball career
- Rain12913, on 06/10/2009, -11/+98Natural Selection.
- voyetra8, on 06/10/2009, -7/+68O(+> + † = FAIL
- kkobrin, on 06/10/2009, -2/+45Game....Blouses....
- mGARANDEUR1, on 06/10/2009, -7/+42I didn't know the Jehovah's witnesses didn't believe in blood transfusions. I thought it was just the usual stem cell research. What a pain in the ass to treat people who won't accept blood.
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -6/+38If that is what he wants to do, then he is in charge of his destiny!
- Elsewhere42, on 06/10/2009, -7/+36Nothing fails like prayer.
- ileftfark, on 06/10/2009, -1/+27Blouses have already been speculating on a new shooting guard.
- Cyberdropping, on 06/10/2009, -4/+29Wikipedia: "Blood transfusion is the process of transferring blood or blood-based products from one person into the circulatory system of another."
Why doesn't Prince just give his own blood and store it until he has enough for the operation? Or would he rather keep popping pain pills?
I am not religious. However, when it comes to elective surgery, I would kind of entertain the idea of storing my own blood anyway, due to the danger of something going "wrong" with the blood they get from who knows where.
Side note: Damn! You know it's getting bad in the rock entertainment world, when the musicians are getting double hip replacements!. We need some young talent quick!! - Zcrubby, on 06/10/2009, -2/+27Not necessarily jehovah's witness, but kids have died because of their parents beliefs..
- DBLaise, on 06/10/2009, -1/+21Parents refused treatment for their daughter's diabetes because of religious beliefs. The child died.
http://digg.com/d1Qd5F - almostnormal, on 06/10/2009, -2/+21It would be his own blood. My old man had it done. He donated his own a couple times during weeks prior to having it.
What's the big deal? - dimension, on 06/10/2009, -11/+30It becomes apparent Prince is way into Jesus...
Prince will be calling in 25 minutes.
Prince will be calling in 19 minutes...
Yeah but can he still get a camel at 3am on a Sunday in Minnesota? - trer, on 06/10/2009, -1/+20Fine then...more surgeries for the rest of us!
- dimension, on 06/10/2009, -2/+21Let me clarify:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy_cLJ19HMg
Kevin Smith on Prince&Religion - Rain12913, on 06/10/2009, -0/+18http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313683,00.html
I also have a friend who had a patient in the same situation with the same outcome (a Jehovah's Witness with Leukemia who refused blood transfusion and passed away), though this was in the early 90's and not covered in the news. - Jerim, on 06/10/2009, -1/+18Having grown up in the faith there are two very logical alternatives:
1) There are blood substitues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_substitutes)
2) He can choose to donate blood for the future surgery. It may take him several months to donate enough for the operation - Charrion, on 06/11/2009, -2/+18The absolutely ridiculous part of this religion is that it's OK for them to accept organ transplants. When a JW friend told me this in all seriousness I was literally speechless.
- 00000, on 06/10/2009, -2/+17nah just stupid
- korewahimitsu, on 06/10/2009, -1/+16In addition to what people are saying about storing your own blood, it's possible to do bloodless hip replacement surgery. It's more expensive, sure, but I'm certain he can afford it.
- Elsewhere42, on 06/10/2009, -3/+18Correct. A Jehovah's Witness views blood as a symbol of life, which is why they see it as sacred.
Ironically a Jehovah's Witness is willing to give up his life in order to preserve a symbol of life. Stupid, in my humble opinion. - Secret7000, on 06/10/2009, -2/+16Sympathy levels running low.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 06/10/2009, -10/+23There have been huge advancements in bloodless surgery techniques (which benefit EVERYONE) primarily because of Jehovah's Witnesses.
- lisaawesome, on 06/10/2009, -5/+18Maybe I'm slightly biased because I love my mom who is a JW but I really don't think JWs are any worse than any mainstream christians. They just get a bad rap because of the door to door business. They don't however believe in hell and in my experience are more kind (although very naive) than the other christians around here. It just kinda irks me that they are considered crazy when their beliefs are actually rather similar to mainstream christians. It's all equally crazy and I hate this idea that somehow some of them are more crazy.
- alexforcefive, on 06/11/2009, -0/+13I can't see how he's going to die from needing hip replacements. Unless a dinosaur attacks him and he can't run away.
- EricSchC1, on 06/10/2009, -4/+16If not for the religion, that "crazy guy" could go ahead and do the transfusion, now couldn't he? Ah, yes...once again logic trumps faith.
- lisaawesome, on 06/10/2009, -2/+14That sounds like your own family's problem. My family is Jehovah's Witness and I stopped going at 13 because I did not believe and all these years later I still do not believe. I am very open in my distaste for religion. Not only does my family still love me to death, many people in the congregation still come over and chat with me. Yes they would like me to come back but they do not shun me in any way or berate me for not believing. They are very friendly with me and do not attempt to make me feel bad in any way about my lack of beliefs. I don't think you are lying but I do think that it's your family not the church. I know of a few people from different denominations like Baptist and Lutheran who have been shunned by their families for not believing but I do not think that is the typical practice of those religions either. You are taking an isolated incident and blaming the entire religion for it. I have said a hell of a lot more than I didn't want to be a JW and the sisters from the congregation and my family love me unconditionally. I love them back unconditionally as well.
- MicahC, on 06/10/2009, -1/+13False, Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus Christ is the son of God. Get your facts straight.
http://www.watchtower.org/e/200612/article_02.htm - angryfirelord, on 06/10/2009, -2/+14I've never understood this belief myself. I'm a Christian, but I've always read the term "shedding blood" as saying you shouldn't drink it or cause unnecessary suffering (like murder). Transfusions are a volunteer process, so I don't see how JWs can equate that as being a sin.
- Rain12913, on 06/10/2009, -1/+13@Aero347:
"Refusing a blood transfusion for a shot a surviving a very terminal illness?...Maybe the poor guy was spared more misery."
You don't possess the experience nor the training required in order to make that decision, and neither did that 14 year old boy or his Aunt. That's what Doctors are for, they're people who devote their lives to collectively studying the human body and to determining the best way to keep it healthy. The Doctors believed that the child had a "70% chance of surviving" if he had received the blood transfusion versus certain death if he didn't. The child and his family ignored this advice, and the child died the next day.
"He probably needed a bone marrow transplant and would not accept one. Do you know what happens when your body rejects an incompatible blood type? Or what happens when you contract Hepatitis C from a blood transfusion?"
He did not need a bone marrow transplant, he needed a simple blood transfusion. In this procedure, his blood type would have been screened and there would be no risk of him receiving and rejecting an incompatible blood type. Likewise, the risk of contracting Hepatitis C from a blood transfusion nowadays is nearly zero. Likewise, there is clearly no "bloodless" alternative to a blood transfusion, so that was not an option as you suggest. Your outdated knowledge of health is astounding, and is a good example of why critical life and death medical decisions should be left in the hands of trained physicians and brain-washed nut jobs. - costumemaker, on 06/10/2009, -0/+11game --- blouses.
god damn I miss that show :( - HonestAbe, on 06/10/2009, -1/+12Can't he just donate his own blood over and over for a year until there's enough for the operation?
Or maybe it doesn't store well. - Jerim, on 06/10/2009, -0/+10Right, I don't understand what Prince is really up to. Witnesses don't shy away from surgeries in the least, just the blood. He can hide behind his religious beliefs all he wants to, but I know for a fact his religious beliefs aren't stopping him.
He is probably just scared to have the surgery. It is hard to admit when you are getting older. I think Eddie Van Halen had a hard time coming to grips with his hip replacement surgery. - Phil13, on 06/11/2009, -2/+12No argument there, but it doesn't make him, or the tons of other people who make similar decisions, any brighter.
- robdiggity, on 06/10/2009, -3/+13Well, this IS what it sounds like when doves cry.
- tabion, on 06/10/2009, -0/+10@Aero347:
Body rejects an incompatible blood type? Are you idiotic?
Look up Blood Type O. - CanuckPenguin, on 06/10/2009, -4/+13While I may not share his beliefs, I have to give him credit for standing by his convictions. More than what the diabetics in PETA can say!
- UwasaWaya, on 06/10/2009, -0/+9Wow, I laughed far harder at this comment that I probably should have. Thank you.
- papashawn, on 06/10/2009, -1/+10There was a story awhile back, where a doctor saved a guy's life and then was sued by said guy because doc gave him a blood transfusion and he was a Jehovah's Witness.
On another note, it's going to be hard door-knocking on two bum hips. - wolvyne, on 06/10/2009, -3/+12Just curious to see the responses because I'm seeing a pattern of it's ok as long as it is not a child. I know that it's getting rare, but what if it is a child and you say forget my beliefs (assuming JW or other group that thinks that way) and does the blood transfusion, then the child gets a disease from that blood or their body rejects it. Then what?
As mentioned earlier the alternatives are actually better, the patients heal faster, but is typically more demanding of the doctor which is why they go for the transfusion instead. A buddy of mine who was JW at 18 had to have major heart surgery and had to fight for months to get it as a non transfusion and he recovered months ahead of what was expected.
To me JW's are not just fighting for their beliefs they are fighting for better and safer medical practices. I respect it. - Elsewhere42, on 06/10/2009, -4/+13Sure... until your entire family shuns you for simply not wanting to be a part of their Jehovah's Witness religion.
They are brutal and will shun you for life if you don't want to be a Jehovah's Witness. Think I'm lying? My family is Jehovah's Witness and they shun me... everyone going back four generations including distant relatives. All I did is tell them I didn't want to be a Jehovah's Witness. - askegg, on 06/10/2009, -0/+8Jehovah's Witnesses will accept some blood products if they are treated correctly. Apparently god can't tell it's blood if you tinker with it a little.
- INHUMANITY, on 06/10/2009, -5/+13So?
- techweenie, on 06/10/2009, -5/+13Wait, so Jehovah's Witnesses believe in popping pills?
But not autologous transfusion?
Religion mystifies me. -
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