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- dbavaria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Another cool trick:
Pandora uses Flash's built in local storage feature to save info about the radio stations you have created, and how many songs you have listened to and things of that nature. If your like me you probably hit the next on playlist button a bunch of times and found that you can only skip a given number of songs in a given amount of time.
To get around this you can right click on the flash and go to settings. Turn off local storage, then do the same thing and turn it back on. Reload the page, and the local files have been cleaned out and your "cookies" for the site have been reset.
Another way to do this without loosing your actual radio stations you've created is by deleting the actual file that keeps track of howmany songs have been listened to, this can be found in the following directory:
C:Documents and SettingsUSERNAMEApplication DataMacromediaFlash Player#SharedObjects
Search around in there and find the subdirectory "pandora.com"
In it are 2 files, v2_PerfComp.sol and v3_Machine.sol
Delete v2_PerfComp.sol to delete their cache on what you have played and howmany skips you have done in the last hour or so.
v3_Machine.sol stores your radio stations - don't delete it unless you want to loose them.
Therefore by deleting v2_PerfComp.sol or by reseting your local storage settings for flash you can bypass the limitations of pandora.com :)
good luck
-dbavaria - capn_caveman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Who would have thought that opening Pandora's box would be this much fun?
- reflexion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"What we need now is a program that can fill in ID3 tags, either by getting them from Pandora, or by some other means."
kevinblowsgoats: If you're on Windows/OSX, try MusicBrainz (http://musicbrainz.org/) - triclops, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3On Mac OS X using Safari it seems the cached files are placed in /tmp and named WebKitPlugInStream*
- stian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Very cool find!
/tmp/plugtmp-#/access-# on linux.. :) - Ferneaux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just as an addition, there's no need to use "echo" to find your Temp folder. To shorten the process, simply click Start > Run > type: %TEMP% > click OK.
Windows will open your Temp folder in a new window (even if it is being "hidden"). - hypercube33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is remarkably similar to why I lost my job. Posting dumb ***** online...
- timwizard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I found mine in C:Documents and Settings[My name]Local SettingsTemporary Internet FilesContent.IE5S75BMQJ5 .
- Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Try searching for files named:
access*
on your computer and make sure you keep Pandora streaming (they apparently get deleted when it stops). - Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks. I'm not very Linux-literate :P
- Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1128kbps.
- irfaan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1^^ ahh my bad. wasn't searching hidden files:) thanks.
- irfaan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Try searching for files named:
access*"
searched everything.. nothing comes up. Is the extension an mp3? - KevinBlowsGoats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What we need now is a program that can fill in ID3 tags, either by getting them from Pandora, or by some other means.
- Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea, but who'd do that? ;P
I actually stumbled upon this when I received a low disk space warning on the drive my TEMP folder is on (I don't have very much space left on it) and I performed a search for files modified in the past day and noticed all those 1-15MB access files.
I just hope this doesn't put Pandora/Music Genome Project in legal trouble, as Pandora's a great (and now free) service for finding new music that matches your taste. I'd rather they find out and fix it first if it keeps them out of trouble. Somebody was bound to discover and digg this eventually, though. - Drood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1C:Documents and SettingsOwnerLocal SettingsTempplugtmp-1
That's where I found mine using Firefox. (Obviously sub your name for Owner). - CrAkaRJax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The prog now deletes each song as it progresses, and only caches the next song to play. At least in opera.
- ThePenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To dbavaria:
To skip tracks when it won't let you hit the "next" button, just click on another station and wait for the album pictures to go away and start to come back. Then click on the original station. - .Steven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1oh.. you mean programming...
CopyFile" API which resides
in kernel32.dll - slombard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why Digg this? Are you trying to get a decent net-radio program to shutdown? Come on people, think.
- Erukian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1using Mr. Questionman (google it) it turned up this.
MPEG 1 Layer III LAME 3.96r cbr 128
So at least the encoder isn't ancient. - Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks :)
And sorry to all for the lack of elaboration in the digg description. Even if I had known the platform/browser differences when I posted this, there wouldn't have been space to include them.
Hope this is still diggworthy, regardless! - KevinBlowsGoats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"...try MusicBrainz..."
Thanks reflexion. - CrAkaRJax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1k, with opera its in the prog files/opera/profiles folder, the files delete as they are played, so you have to save them before they play. also you can save the album art.
- mightymouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1another discovery: pandora refreshes those files once in a while so rename them with the .mp3 thing and they don't delete- so rename them all with .mp3 and you get to keep them :D. oh, and transfer them to anotehr folder.
- viday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1who wants to write a script to:
1) automatically check for new files in the temp directory
2) copy and rename them according to ID3 tag info
Anyone up for the task? - jakewilliams23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What if Internet Radio goes underground, using RSS feeds and links to MP3 files? You just make a playlist with the songs in order, connecting to the files, and let people to subscribe to it.
Shelly Palmer came up with the idea, on Media 3.0:
http://advancedmediacommittee.typepad.com/emmyadvancedmedia/2007/03/what_is_interne.html
Jake - fikal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If we are able to find a way to copy the files from the folder to another folder, then putting the right names for the files is easy. All you have to do is parse the firefox title... Waiting on Today by P.O.D
- dextre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0u need the following to copy the temporary internet files:
FindNextUrlCacheEntry
UnlockUrlCacheEntry
RetrieveUrlCacheEntryFile
(but i ain't doing it. those RESTRICTIONS scare me.)
REFERENCES:
http://www.codeguru.com/Cpp/I-N/ieprogram/article.php/c1245/
http://forums.devshed.com/t73445/s.html
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wininet/wininet/findnexturlcacheentry.asp - dextre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i'm adding one more app (CacheUtil) to enumerate the cache entries. but it's only raw source (vc6), no exe. sorry, i don't want to break the rules :P
http://www.bertolami.com/jerry/PandoraBox_help.zip
http://www.bertolami.com/jerry/CacheUtil_help.zip
the next cached mp3 is "access[1]", but u won't find this file with the url cache enumeration. they did something clever to hide it. instead u get a bunch of related but useless crap. here's mine:
C:Documents and SettingsAdministratorLocal SettingsTemporary Internet FilesContent.IE5
QNKHUV4Lbackground_tuner_top[1].gif
ATG1O1ORpowered_by[1].gif
TZ5RWJDDlogo_pandora[1].gif
GHIJKLMNbackground_tuner[1].gif
89O3KB03radio_styles[1].css
SDMFC9ANpandora[1]
01YB0DYZtuner[1].js
01YB0DYZclearspacer[1].gif
SDMFC9ANmy_favorites[1].gif
89O3KB03xml[1].gif
IXOFUPA5v3[1].xml - stanstan30, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Help, cant find access* files worthy of temp mp3 files. I have IE6 SP2 browser. Where are they putting these files for me? THanks. Stan.
- ninjacodermonky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey, all. Hope this is useful... I tried looking for these files, and couldn't find em for the life of me.... turns out they don't seem to accumulate when you are listening IE... only if your using Firefox. Maybe this is a new development... or maybe I am a moron. Either way, hope this helps. ;)
- dextre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0CopyFile" API which resides
in kernel32.dll
COPYFILE (string from, string to, boolean failifexists)
oh no. i'm afraid it isn't as simple as just "calling" a well-documented api. of course i tried that! try writing a quick app to copy a jpg from the inet temp folder. copying anything results in a path error. like i said, Microsoft went out of its way to make this impossible. someone was suggesting SHFileOperation but that failed as well.. it's moot! i know they're gonna fix this anyhow. let's not be lazy guys!
-anyhow, here's what i was working on before i gave up-
(it's in vb6, i would use c++, but i was lazy)
http://www.bertolami.com/jerry/PandoraBox_help.zip - adamberaut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i found a quick and pretty easy way to rename the access* files if you dont have musicbrainz, et al. simply open up cmd, navigate to the folder u're storing them in, (plugtmp, it's deleted when u close pandora), and type ren *.* to *.mp3. windows will then recognize them as mp3, enabling winamp, etc. to play them with no problem (although ftr, winamp plays the nonextension files just fine.
i've "discovered" a lot of bands this way. tower records now loves me :( - adamberaut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i've "discovered" a lot of bands this way. tower records now loves me :(
- cybertron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If you guys exploit this to the point that the ***** RIAA shuts pandora down, i'm going to kill each and every one of you ***** bags.
- muddy88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hey i just checked this and it works
start -> run -> C:DOCUME~1"USER"LOCALS~1Temporary Internet FilesContent.IE5
or easier way
search for for newly modified files in this folder, usually "acess[1]" or "11351236768614", just a large file then change to .mp3 and done - RMuffin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*Moral Conflict*
It's not like we're hacking, or decrypting anything...
FREE MUSIC FOR ALL!
Hopefully they patch it up if it'll get them in legal touble, can't be too hard to fix can it? - dextre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i think we should just be happy they are letting us listen to this stuff for free, instead of trying to cheat the system. sheesh, just copy the file yourself. how lazy can you get??
- on another note -
i'll finish this utility if anyone can tell me how to copy files out of the Temporary Internet Folder (win32 API?) ;) - dextre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i tried putting something together that poll checks that folder.. and to my dismay i can't copy stuff from the Temporary Internet Folder!! apparently Microsoft considers some files too secret to make accessible.. via code.
http://hardwarehell.com/articles/bootclean.shtml
http://www.thescarms.com/vbasic/fileops.asp - aixelsyD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this is so sweet
- anztac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow, Digg swarmed pandora, it's lagging out and you can only access it with free registration now.
Looks like they're dropping the 10 hour trial in lieu of ads for registered accounts. Fun - mikEdub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@dextre
There are 3 different types of files that end up in your temp folder. An XML with information such as playlist, your account information, etc. Another is album art and the third is the actual mp3 file.
The album art is anywhere from 8kb - 15kb. Just rename the file to .jpg.
The XML files are < 1kb in size - MoeB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0open finder, Go > Go to folder. type /tmp look for files that start with WebKitPlugIn. those are the files that you want, just rename them to .mp3.
- dextre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0it's just the raw source guys. no .exe for ya!
i also discovered that the mp3 is a partial download sometimes, meaning, it's hard to tell when the file is complete. and finally when your song plays, it's no longer the one in your cache. what gets queued is the "next song". you might get lucky to copy the entire mp3 if you time yourself just right. or copy at the end of playback.
there's no ID3 information on the songs being played. and there's no tangible way to grab the song title from Pandora's flash applet. so i guess u'll have to name them yourself. no way around it.
btw, where's the album art? what file does it reside in? - MrSlippers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There needs to be a utility for this.
- scottperezfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ok, I'm not having any luck with my OS X 10.4.3 (safari or firefox). Can someone explain this to me real simply, preferably beginning with the phrase "open a finder window and navigate to...."
Thanks. - .Steven, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1COPYFILE (string from, string to, boolean failifexists)
lv_fromfile = "test1.txt"
lv_tofile = "test2.txt"
lv_failifexists = "T" or "F"
activate "winapi".copyfile(lv_fromfile,lv_tofile,lv_failifexists)
($status: 0=fail, >0=success) - Vektuz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0except if someone makes it easy to do this, it will be self defeating because they will be shut down.
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