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- misconstrued, on 10/10/2007, -2/+233It will be very interesting to see what the music industry has become 10 years from now.
- phaseblue, on 10/12/2007, -4/+144As someone who lists nine inch nails and Radiohead as favorite musicians numbers 1 and 2, this is officially the best week ever.
- keyboardduder, on 10/10/2007, -6/+102Real artists should all be self-promoted and self-reliant. Remember what Hendrix did? The record industry is nothing but a bunch of money-grubbing middlemen with no talent. Only connections and people who can make music for them. Where do you think every talentless pop star and rapper have come from?
- titlesaysitall, on 10/10/2007, -7/+93"Will you bite the hand that feeds..."
- Neotribal, on 10/12/2007, -9/+88How about cutting out the spam? Direct link to the source: http://www.nin.com
- missingnoh4x, on 10/12/2007, -5/+60Way to sink to their level. Spamming is bad, burying for reasons unrelated to the submission is bad.
- kindrobot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+55It's great to see major artists taking this type of approach to the distribution (see:restriction and extortion) of their works.
- andrgo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+52"Highly popular Industrial Rock Band Nine Inch Nails have announced that as of today they are free agents,"
What does the author mean by calling NIN 'they'? Does Trent have a split personality or something? It's all solo unless he's live. Funny technicalities. - Timbo1970, on 10/10/2007, -3/+43Don't pester him, he's still crying about Britney's come back... "Leave her ALONE!!!"
- moofer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+38i for am joyous at toast for you bicycle.
- bdurkin, on 10/10/2007, -4/+42He posted his mp3's on his website for the world to hear....and took a lot of acid. :)
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+33They were more popular years ago indeed but not for a few weeks. They had two charting albums in the top 100 for almost a year as I remember.
- i4mt3hwin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+34because a few months from now someone is going to click on the link and see nothing.
- Shakermaker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31So.....how about Radiohead. Big enough calibre for you?
- swingsetacid, on 10/10/2007, -5/+33Didn't he die in 1970? He must have gotten an amazingly early beta release of Front Page . . .
- Theisos, on 10/10/2007, -2/+30o.O
- SocialPoison, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26Not everyone's a NiN buff...
hell I didn't know that :P
*doo doo dooo* the more you know - moofer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24With the advent of home computers and recording software, artists have been doing much of their own recording/mixing for years. Labels were only used for promotion and distribution. Now with the advent of legal online music, they can go after their own revenue streams. Trent Reznor has also hated Ticketmaster for years, and I'm sure he's going to address that issue too. He's got to be one of the most intelligent musicians in the industry, and I hope he acts as a beacon for others to follow.
- bitteroldmann, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24Yes. What's your idea of relevant, Fallout Boy and T.I.?
- solis365, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25wha...?
- animal71, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24I guess the nail + coffin metaphor was too tempting for the writer.
If the band was called nine inch straws, then the author would have written
Nine Inch Straw Breaks Record Industry's Camelback - engwar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23Can you remind us what Hendrix did? I thought he was on Atlantic records.
- bolognium, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21if you're referring to the labels as the hand - the hand has no more power of promotion and distribution - artists feed themselves now.
- mojoel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19Not the same thing. The label didn't want to release Machina II, so Billy Corgan released it for free.
- peterinjapan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22I'm the owner of J-List (http://www.jlist.com), and one of the great thrills of my life was that, for some reason, the NiN's official website's "links" section linked to our site for a couple of years. That was so awesome.
- amnesiac096, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19Radiohead's bluff? What are you talking about? Both NIN and Radiohead are doing what has to be done, breaking away from corporate *****. NIN isn't and doesn't have to call any bluff, cuz there isn't one moron. Radiohead has no contract either, in which they are now releasing their new album on their own, which is good for everyone.
Radiohead's bluff, good one idiot. - antibastard, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20why does the fact that not everyone is a NIN expert make you giggle? are you easily amused?
- bigjimslade, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21Sorry, Trent hasn't nailed the lid on anything. It's easy for a guy that has a gagillion dollars worth of recording and music equipment to say no thanks to the music company, but ask a new band that wants to record the same thing. They need the upfront money. Go read "So You Want To Be A Rock and Roll Star" - it shows how nasty the music biz is.
Oh yeah, as long as rock and roll starts want rock and roll money, the music companies will endure. - N3M3515, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17The industry will exist of 80% lawyers, and 20% executives and existing off of lawsuits such as the one that just happened in Duluth.
- bubbadigg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Yeah, it was during one of his acid trips... he helped Al Gore invent the internet just so he could copy MP3's up to it for everyone to listen to for free. He knew vinyl was on its last leg. He did it just to spite the record industries lawsuits against people downloading music and sharing files...
I thought that everyone knew this..... - Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18As someone who wouldn't list either in his top 100, I still think this is good news. The music industry is evolving into something much more fan friendly. But these changes are going to cause a massive upheaval in radio and TV. The record companies and their associates drive radio and TV. Without their money and influence, things are going to look a lot different. Better, I think, but quite unlike what we've got now.
- phaseblue, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Ooh, next tell me what movies I like!
- mudsown, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15@moofer
The problem Pearl Jam had still is valid. Most venues have a contract with Ticketmaster that basically states that such venues HAVE to go through Ticketmaster to sell tickets. Even venues that have their own box office are still usually going through Ticketmaster in one way or another for the box office. - mojaam, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Working for the record companies eh? Or you just a hater?
- cresswga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Ian Brodie = Lightning Seeds and Chris Carrabba = Dashboard Confessional but if someone releases a record under the group name they are always referred to as a group.
- theragu40, on 10/10/2007, -10/+22Direct artist-to-consumer digital distribution may become a larger part of the music industry, but I think it's naive to say that traditional methods of music distribution will be going away anytime soon. There are plenty of people who would still prefer to have a physical CD than to just have music as a download. Plus, many newer and smaller acts would never get the recognition needed to support themselves the way NIN is going to without a record company to springboard them to popularity with marketing dollars.
I hate the RIAA and record companies as much as the next guy. They're screwing the consumer, and screwing the artists even worse. But for the foreseeable future, they're going to be here to stay. Their face may change slightly, but unfortunately not every band has a large enough online following to be successful at doing what NIN is doing. NIN's stand is awesome, but it's hardly a "nail in the coffin". - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17People who don't think this is a nail in the coffin need a reality check.
NIN is ***** *huge* - they are still very relevant. Someone like Prince pulling this... not so much of an effect. I mean, he has his fan base, but he's sorta washed up by now.
Many mainstream artists, even upcoming, draw inspiration from NIN/Trent.
This is pretty major. Other artists will say, "Well, Trent Reznor did it, so can I!" - just need that first step.
Just like Metallica took the first step in starting all this *****, Trent took the first step in fixing it.
It takes a lot of guts to pull this move, but it's something that has to happen. - fragile00, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12You chubby ignorant midget.
- chaosium, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Not even Pearl Jam could break the Ticketmaster racket, Clear Channel hasn't made things any easier in the meantime.
- mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I've been a NIN fan for YEARS, since I was 9 and in the 5th grade believe it or not (13 years). I own every Halo, and know the NIN story, I still refer to them as "they" because it doesn't sound proper to refer to a band name as a person.
- enginbeering, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10***** metallica
- engwar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11I'm curious as to how this will effect bands that aren't established. Will they still need that record deal to get big. Seems like the record labels do more than distribution though. Don't they help get bands on radio and market them in other ways, like having them open up for larger bands on tours?
Seems like going direct would work well for established groups but might not work so well for smaller bands. A myspace page and internet buzz is only going to go so far.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not an apologist for the record companies or anything but I do wonder how well the do it yourself model will work for the smaller groups. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9God bless you J-List guys, how else would I satisfy my libido for tentacle sex?
- Zootex, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Cool but people like Del tha funkee homosapien and the group he is part of, the hieroglyphics have being independent from the start, so yeah it's cool but i mean it's not like he didn't realise or couldn't see what the companies were becoming/doing.
- missingnoh4x, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Are they still up? Linksnowplz.
- whisperedlie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9This submission is overstated, but I applaud Reznor's attitude and outspokenness on the issue. It's easy to do this if you're a successful artist, but I think it's important to establish a model for other artists and provide a voice for the fans that the industry will listen to (whether they want to or not).
- DeathMarcher, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9*cry*
You stole my cover band name! - EdmontonEh, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12Here is another example... http://digg.com/music/Official_New_Radiohead_Album ...
You pay what you want for Radiohead's new album. FAB... - postalblowfish7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8"Real artists should all be self-promoted and self-reliant"
this is really really really really really hard to do. some times it's nice just to concentrate on music and let the suites figure out how to press/sell it. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Where have you been?
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