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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Am I the only one who wonders why napster is alive at all?
- kaje, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29But that's where you're wrong.
None of the software is illegal. - TwwIX, on 10/12/2007, -10/+29nah, thx.
i'll stick to the illegal software. - cptn_cardboard, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21haha, well, they're alive because the name "Napster" is synonymous with doing something "risky" or illegal, so when the middle class white "gangstas" want to get some rap, they are most likely going to associate busting caps with Napster.
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15For those unable to RTFA: Napster is going to let anybody stream any of their music at a lower quality for no charge. The catch is that you can only stream any given song 5 times total.
I'll stick to allofmp3.com, thanks. - daveequalscool, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17wow. limited streaming music. enticing indeed.
- craterburnsu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11It's not exactly Free music if it's just streaming, especialy if they limit the streaming of each song to 5 times. I personaly still go out to Bestbuy or Virgin Record stores to get my CDs.
- jpwhitmore, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13I used to say the same thing but I am attempting to go "legal". I had never purchased a music CD till 1 month ago. Buying the Albums I really like has allowed me to enjoy my music more then I ever had previously.
- DrRo183, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5So, again, the software is legal. You should have the right to share data with other users. It's the nature of the internet.
"...the RIAA will be targeting users who upload/share "substantial" amounts of copyrighted music. The RIAA has stated that it will choose who to sue by using software that scans users' publicly available P2P directories and then identifies the ISP of each user." - http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/howto-notgetsued.php
Go to EFF.org and get your facts straight.
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One of my professors was called to testify in a case, I can't remember the specifics, but apparently a software company suing the RIAA for illegally using their P2P software to find/trace users sharing copyright music. Should be interesting. - kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Napster: Pay for everything, own nothing.
- mastercheif, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Many other articles do that, are you new here?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5yeah, but probably just so you dont record your waveout or something with audacity
- hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Screw Napster. They will die again.
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Yeah, I'd say you're an ass for not supporting the music industry, but
1. The RIAA can go kcuf themselves.
2. The artists barely get anything.
So, until that changes... Rock on. - mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If you buy Itunes you dont have to pay ~15$ per month, the song is yours. Else with napster your songs stop working if you stop paying.
- dramatools, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The executives are thinking "We sold off our CD burning software for THIS?"
- ikonoclasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'll stick to isoHunt.
- saifatlast, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Actually, I used napster for a while (the non-free one obviously) and I gotta tell you, it's a great way to explore your music tastes and just have an amazing wealth of songs available at your fingertips. With napster, I could easily and quickly (and legally) check out a new band, and hey if I didn't like them, who cares?
Of course, I've since realized that paying $13/month and getting no permanent tangibles in return is kind of dumb, but it was fun to use for a few months. - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'll stick to iTunes.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Like the article said..it hs a PREVIEW service. It is not intended to let you play music at your workdesk througout the day. You preview tracks and decide if you want to get it. Like to join their paid service.
It is great for DJs. We can cehck sites like Promo Only, or ERG, check the track list of the latest CD that is released (the lists are availble at least a week before the CDs are even mailed to subscribers) then check to see if they are on NApster or Real Rahpsody to see if they are worth getting either legally or illegally. - ElJefeGrande, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Streaming quality is crap.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's how to get me to download music from these services: give the music to me.
Remember the iTunes/Pepsi promotion?
Otherwise, I'm sticking to CDs as well. - Hexxagonal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2it's called purchasing the music and not doing something illegal
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Why wouldn't they? Since when are Google ads only for poor companies?
- DeflatorMouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What advantage does iTunes have over Napster? iTunes works with the iPod (you know, that MP3 player that has SEVENTY-FIVE PERCENT of the market?); Napster does not.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"This subscription crud is a joke, and I can't believe that Apple has no competition with the iTMS yet. When will all these other companies learn???"
Yes, a service that lets you subscribe for unlimited music, or only buy songs for $0.99, or both is somehow inferior, to iTMS, where your only option is to buy the song for $0.99. - Flooq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll stick with ripping CDs to my needs. No DRM (that works), cover art, good quality, and cheaper than the download services so long as you buy from the right places. Don't want to support the RIAA by buying their CDs? Use http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/ and make sure you don't.
- timtastic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@DeflatorMouse
The fact that iTunes works with Apple's proprietary hardware and DRM is obviously an advantage to iPod owners, but your argument is based on who holds the market share, not who has a better service. Make a case for Apple's DRM over Napster's and I will listen (I admittedly don't know enough about either one to have an informed opinion). - lavawalker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4napster.com has google ads? How desperate are they?
- timtastic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not only do they have to pay for bandwidth, but they have to pay the music labels each time you listen to a song. Since songs are played on demand and not in a "radio" format like Pandora or last.fm, Napster has different, more restrictive contracts. Apple probably gets around this with the :30 previews.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From Napster's site:
"Can I Download Songs From the Napster Free Service?
You must purchase songs to download them to your computer using the Napster Free service. Once you purchase a track you can burn it to CD, transfer it to a portable device or keep it on your local hard drive." - Flooq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It makes the DRM less relevant if you can burn but you still loose quality going from lossy to CD back to lossy should you want to have non-DRM'd digital music.
- bdbr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Has anyone ever checkout tuneBite?"
I've heard of people who swear by it for getting Napster music onto their iPod...just an excuse really, since they're recording a copy of something for which they don't have copyright (why not just download it?). For the free previews though, the quality is just too poor for anyone to want to record.
A full song preview service is great, even if its low-fi and you can only play it 5 times. How many times do you need to hear a song to decide if you want it? The purpose of this is not to just hand out all their music for free, and anyone who complains about getting "only" 5 songs is just being greedy. These services DO have to pay for bandwidth - that's why Apple sells crappy 128kbps music when everyone else is at 192kbps. That's why Apple only has crappy 30-second previews. It would be nice if Apple would decide to compete with something more than non-interoperability someday. - Hexxagonal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1$13/mo isn't what they charge...
i personally have the $10 service and love it... use it at work all the time and before in the lab at college. unlike allofmp3.com napster isn't shades of grey - AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3whats a copret pig?
- crashingechelon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i don't even know why they still try anymore. i'm sticking with Best Buy and iTunes.
- saifatlast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@timastic & saml, What I mean is that when I stop paying, I can't listen anymore. I basically remember how the music sounded, maybe know a few bands, but their primary product, music, is gone to me.
Cable is a little different because I'm paying so I can access information and whatnot, if you could just buy (or illegally download ;)) the internet, that'd be more economical, but really come on, bad analogy. - Abatrour, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I remember when they used to stream full songs, those were the days :P
- vandil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Napster" is merely a brand name that was purchased by Roxio. The WMA-DRM'd monstrosity of today is not the same software or "service" as the original P2P client software.
(Kind of like how AOL bought Netscape, then used the "Netscape" brand to market a low-cost dial-up service.. to nab the people who don't want to pay for their premium dial-up service.) - CreativeGuy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5As someone who took advantage of the original Napster, I gotta say that it's just plain EASIER to get music legally from iTunes anymore.
1. You don't have to spend hours looking for the song you want
2. You don't have to download 5 copies hoping at least one of them is of decent quality
3. You don't have to worry about incomplete downloads
4. Cmon... it's 99 cents for Chrissakes!
This subscription crud is a joke, and I can't believe that Apple has no competition with the iTMS yet. When will all these other companies learn??? - SamL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@saifatlast: as opposed to the $50/mo you pay to cable company for nothing tangible?
- Hexxagonal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1who would like the original napster... it was terrible, innovative but terrible
not to mention it wasn't legal - Hexxagonal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1look at your cable bill... oh wait you own hbo
- gleedsta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Has anyone ever checkout tuneBite? It allows you to record the protected napster/rhapsody/iTunes songs. It uses Windows Media Player to record the songs at a high speed dubbing. I've gotten tons of free music from these legal download sites. A lot of my buddies sign up for a free trial and download gig's of music then rip it to their iPod. Worth checking out.
http://www.download.com/Tunebite/3000-2140_4-10461338.html?tag=lst-0-1 - SamL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1if you manage to sign up without putting in your credit card (tricky, but possible), then you don't have a subscription, but can still buy tracks for $.99
And once you purchase a track, it doesn't expire or anything like that (no worse than iTunes DRM) - Hexxagonal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2you don't HAVE to subscribe to napster. the base features of napster is still better than itunes and you get hte $.99 songs.
If you are a subscriber you get added benefits like no ads, unlimited streams, unlimited downloads, the ability to buy tracks for $.80, among others.
i have both itunes and napster i prefer napster because it usually has my music where as itunes will not when i get to more obscure artists. - timtastic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1But if you buy the song with Napster you are free to burn it to a CD. Doesn't that mean DRM is irrelevant?
I think the drawback is you have to pay for the subscription in order to be able to buy the song for $0.99. I guess the way to do it is preview songs on Napster and then buy them on iTunes or elsewhere. - timtastic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1saifatlast: what is tangible about music?
Music is information. Information ownership is a dying concept. Discuss. - Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1AhronZombi, your reply made me LOL.
- darkmotion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2:( only works in the US
I guess I'll have to use a nice proxy to get it in Australia
anyone know one know any DECENT proxies? :) -
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