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- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+147"I set up my own record label called Blueberry Pie and just got the music out there. It's pretty easy. Anyone can do it." - oh how i love hearing more and more musicians talking like that. the death of the major labels is coming.......
- mulling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+83So remind me...what do we need the record companies for?
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+83She probably doesn't have a choice.
- LymanZerga, on 10/12/2007, -12/+85Ironically, her music is DRM-protected.
- plncrzy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35@LymanZerga
Well it would have to be in order to be on iTunes. EMI is the only record company that's made a deal with Apple to sell non-DRM tracks on iTunes.
Kind of a necessary evil. You're a small outfit -- a self-published band and you want your music to get the most visibility on a large (the largest?) online marketplace. Caveat -- your music must be DRM'd.
Stuck between a rock and a hard place there. The alternative would be to shun the commercial music distributors and offer non-DRM tracks from an independent service..... and get maybe 1/1000th of the exposure if they're lucky. - joshpowell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Bands.
UK bands. (which is why you might not have heard of them) - Johnwelby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Did anybody read the article? While the story itself is good, whoever wrote it is terrible at writing.
The author kept repeating facts.
For example:
"The web response is amazing. Someone I've never met called me the new Jane Austen."
Then there is:
"It's pretty easy. Anyone can do it. The web response is amazing. Someone I've never met called me "the new Jane Austen."
This article was annoying as hell to read. I kept thinking I had skipped back somehow. - Lane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17could anything possibly be a better example of how music as an art can once again come back into society instead of needing to sign your life away to the RIAA?
- EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21"So remind me...what do we need the record companies for?"
Advertisement and promotion. - joshpowell, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Flukes,
You're about 576 music-related stories too late. - skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Dugg for introducing me to new music.
- SpacePirate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Poorly written, repetitive article, and not even a link to preview her music? Brilliant.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16"Kind of a necessary evil. You're a small outfit -- a self-published band and you want your music to get the most visibility on a large (the largest?) online marketplace. Caveat -- your music must be DRM'd.
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If Steve Jobs doesn't want DRM, and she doesn't, then why is it there? - cvp1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14FTA: "Now living in Brighton, Walsh is planning to license her album to a major record company "to keep control" of her own work.
Her manager Jonathan Morley said: "The record labels are queuing up to sign her now. She has a sweet voice and is a great song writer. Her work is original, it's not over produced and it's pretty raw and that's what gives it a lot of appeal.""
So much for unsigned. Hey diggers- maybe you can show support for her unconventional distribution (e.g. no label) and convince her not to get signed. - p0tent1al, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Her myspace is
http://www.myspace.com/katewalsh
On another note I listen to rap music, and even someone like me thinks this is awesome for the industry. I mean, if you look at digg.com, the most digged sites are ones that are run by start-ups. If we have some regular going to the top of iTunes, be pretty sure for the whole industry to change up soon. And the sooner the better I say. - IsaacA, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"Her big break came as a result of iTunes promoting her music online and giving her the "single of the week's spot"."
That is the tricky part, getting that spot where so many people will see you. She was lucky to get that spot. On YouTube Esmee Denters and Mia Rose managed to get a high visibility spot, although it took more than one attempt I believe. It still depends too much on luck instead of the quality of the music. I think we need something that makes it a bit easier for these artists to get noticed. With large online communities you could share the workload of reviewing the music.
Digg has the same problem. Not all quality content is made popular. How many users check out some of the upcoming stories when they see there are thousands of them? What if Digg would give each online user say only 5 upcomin stories to review, instead of 5,000. Maybe more users would be willing to check them, because that is more doable. Digg could spread the stories over all the users who are online. When you give people more stories, more choice, they might review less of them. For each time the story gets dugg, you give it to another x users to review it. It might be interesting to experiment with this.
Anyway if music fans can give artists a platform where they have a decent chance to get some attention, that doesn't rely on luck so much, then these artists will get a very attractive alternative.
And for those artists that need a higher budget for what they had in mind, there is SellaBand ( http://www.sellaband.com ) which uses crowdfunding. Music fans raise the money so the artist can record an album. In return they get a share of the profits and a limited edition CD of the album. Everyone can download the (DRM-free) music for free. It is advertisement supported, like Digg. I found some great artists there as well, like:
Marnie Mains ( http://www.sellaband.com/marniemains/ )
Lucia Iman ( http://www.sellaband.com/lucia/ )
Second Person ( http://www.sellaband.com/secondperson/ )
When you combine these platforms, I think you can create a good alternative. Of course many people need to be using it to become attractive, so we should make the first step, instead of waiting for others to join first and make it an attractive platform. If this is what we want then we need to show some support. - unloud, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I love Imogen Hemp.
Wait...what? - inspecality, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17Take That and Kaiser Chefs?
Ok, are these like new songs or bands? It's hard to tell these days. - behemoth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Nothing to see here people, just another PR stunt.
Her "homemade" album was made in the home studio of her producer, putting her up there with the likes of - ooh - Ozzy Osbourne for DIY ethic.
As well as sharing a newspaper article with Sandi Thom, she has the same PR company. Who are earning their keep, I'll give her that.
But I'm not being a hater. She did set up her own label, and it is now number one on iTunes. So screw you, organised-record-industry. - xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15I love Imogen Heap.
- joshpowell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Why are people being dugg up for echoing a dugg down comment?
I love Imogen Heap! - idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I was about to post something just like that until I scrolled down and saw that I had been beaten by five people.
I think that's pretty much a personal record. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"So much for unsigned."
Licensing her music to the label != Signing to the Label.
She's licensing the album to be sold by the record labels, meaning they pay her a bunch for her work without her being signed. - codyman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I don't see why if she requested not to have DRM Apple wouldn't just say "OK" ... I mean, why not, she's the CEO of her "label"...
- shlolz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I love Imogen Heap.
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@LymanZerga
... and this is ironic, how? Perhaps as the author and performer she would like to place restrictions on the licensing of her work. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4littering and... littering and... littering and...
-I'm FREAKIN OUT MAAAAAN! - skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I believe its on the European charts, not the US charts.
- letdowntourist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4blasphemer.
- trebe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"anyone can do it"
o rly? Somehow I doubt that... - TedTschopp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Walsh is planning to license her album to a major record company "to keep control" of her own work. Her manager Jonathan Morley said: "The record labels are queuing up to sign her now."
And that right there is the end of the old business model the record companies use to have. Someone is licensing them music, and they are queuing up to tear down their old way of doing business. Interesting. Very interesting! - Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I believe they are popular beat combo's m'lud.
Take That was a band that featured some bloke called Robbie Williams, way back when. - joshpowell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4So, how does that make you feel?
- Chupathingy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Don't feel bad. The only reason I knew who Take That was was because of Wikipedia. I kept seeing stories on Digg saying Robbie Williams is doing this or that and I'm thinking "Who the f**k is Robbie Williams?" Apparently, they're some sort of brit boy-band and he's like some kind of British Justin Timberlake. God help them. Not only do the Brits get to hear our (U.S.) crappy bands, they have home-grown crappy bands, too.
- milkmage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@pincrzy
yeah, but if apple's going to build in support for non-drm'd versions of the EMI tracks, let's hope they give that option to the indie artists as well - Jah30, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4She has an awesome voice. Very very very similar to the girl from The Sundays. Nevertheless, this Kate girl is goooooooooooooooooood!!
Move over Sanjaya, there is some real talent out there!! - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They do?
- joshpowell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4No they don't.
They can buy advertising space (i.e. the banners on the top of the store) but not chart positions. - LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It probably tops the UK charts. She's listed in the US store too.
Her album does sound very good. - String, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3She is hot... =)
- murphe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I'm somewhat confused by the claims she has done everything without record labels help. The About page on her website (http://www.katewalsh.net/) indicates that her first publishing deal was with Warner Chappel which led to an independant label contract (Kitchenware Records).
She is independent now under her own label, but to imply that she had no help from a major record label in her time is a lie of omission - poor journalism. - Lewby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Holy smoke!
Kate is my sister.
This is weird. I mean I knew she'd have some notoriety, but digg! That's as big as it gets in my eyes. - cdawzrd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4oh my... a myspace page that looks decent? wtf is this?
- TheGreyArea, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"I set up my own record label called Blueberry Pie and just got the music out there. It's pretty easy. Anyone can do it." - oh how i love hearing more and more musicians talking like that. the death of the major labels is coming......."//
Yeah, Conor Oberst did the same thing. Started a label (Saddle Creek) and just got Bright Eyes' music out there, as well as helped promote other bands who otherwise wouldn't have necessarily gotten that exposure. - NeilInCanadia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@hove:
Kaiser Chiefs is named after Kaizer Chiefs, a football club in South Africa. - nestafett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2what i want to know is why the hell someone called her the new jane austen?
is there a book she wrote also or is there a musician jane austen? im confused. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wow, she's really freaking good! she was bound to make it big (self promoted or not) with that sound!
- yoshitx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Take that RIAA!
- kerouac906, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To the DRM people, are podcasts laced with DRM? I use ZenCasts and they are DRM free, so I don't see why she and her personal record label won't be able to go non-DRM. Yes, I know she is selling, not giving away her music, but on that note, she should put her albums out via torrents if she wants max exposure...
- hove, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2She's number 3 in the itunes album chart
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