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- akchrs, on 07/08/2009, -3/+44Modern music is doing fine. Just don't listen to the crap on top 40 radio.
- Neonic7, on 07/08/2009, -1/+26Dugg for this quote:
"Rock and roll was white kids trying to make black music and failing, gloriously!’’ - DoctorX, on 07/07/2009, -1/+21I met Little Steven a few years ago in the crowd of a small concert for a band I was webmastering for at the time. He was friendly and even shook my hand, but not very chatty. He was only interested in the music.
His show is definitely worth checking out, but I really wish he'd release the online version as a podcast. - Chordonblue, on 07/08/2009, -0/+15The trouble is that live music doesn't pay for the small bar bands AND you need to actually find a place to play it! If you're a small band starting out, you can expect to live hand to mouth, and work two jobs just to pay for your equipment damage and food.
The other very real dilemma is that there simply aren't as many places to play anymore. Many places have converted to DJing or canned music - at least in my neck of the woods in central PA. Don't get me wrong, there are places to go, but not near as many as 20-30 years ago.
I play out with a band because it's what I LOVE. I certainly don't do it for the fame or money since there's little of each. - akchrs, on 07/08/2009, -0/+15Do not.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -1/+15wow, 3 and 4 hour shows? i dont really dig springsteens music, but he just got alot of respect from me. ive never seen a band play for 4 hours straight. i was impressed seeing clutch for 2 hours. but 4 hours? thats alot of rocking right there!
im gonna have to check out sil's radio show, didnt even know he had one. i knew about his music career and all, but he has always been silvio dante to me. - greenroom628, on 07/08/2009, -0/+11i've been to a springsteen show...paid over $100 for tickets at face value (this was back in the 90's) and it was worth every penny. they played for 3 hours straight and looked like they had a good time doing it.
i wasn't much of a springsteen fan then, but you get a really good appreciation for the music when it's played live. - mogwaiinjustice, on 07/08/2009, -1/+12Seriously, in the past few years i have seen more amazing shows and learned about more amazing bands then I know what to do with. As a music lover being able to skip commercial radio and TV and actually find things I like.
- Browzer, on 07/08/2009, -1/+12I don't hate things just because they are mainstream. In fact, I am quite open about my love for mainstream 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's music. But something went seriously wrong around 1998-ish. Today, mainstream rock radio is mostly crap. It is programmed by computers, not humans. It is all auto-tuned volume-modified garbage by men that sounds like boys and wear eyeliner.
However, there is tons of new stuff that doesn't get played on the radio that is really good. Arcade Fire, My Morning Jacket, Fleet Foxes, TV on the Radio, Nick Cave (yeah, he goes back to the 80's but his new stuff is kickass too), Dirty Projectors, New Pornographers / Neko Case, Black Keys, Flaming Lips, Drive By Truckers, Hold Steady, David Byrne + Eno's latest, etc...
But by all means, if you're satisfied with Fallout Boy and Kings of Leon, more power to you. - alais, on 07/08/2009, -1/+11Little Steven's Underground Garage is one hell of a good show, highly recommended
http://www.littlestevensundergroundgarage.com/ - IllBeBack, on 07/08/2009, -0/+9He sounds just like Billy Bob Thornton.
Just old people saying the same things that old people have said about the music of generations after them have said for, well, generations.
This is not going to change. But they'll be dead soon and music will live on just fine without their needless blather. - Ligeti, on 07/08/2009, -2/+10Music today is just as good as it was back in the 50's and 60's. Sure, there's a lot of mediocre garbage, but there is also a lot of great, innovative stuff that you have to dig for.
- inactive, on 07/08/2009, -1/+8There's nothing elite about Nickleback.
- itsmikey, on 07/08/2009, -0/+6He is exactly right. The reason why Elvis sold so many records is he was black music with a white face. Going back even further, Elvis used to open for Pat Boone, a born-again Christian who scored lots of big hits by covering black artists like Little Richard ("Tutti Frutti") and Fats Domino ("Ain't That a Shame").
- wpc33, on 07/08/2009, -3/+9"Our love is like a Bruce Springsteen concert. It's really long, it's not very good, but wow! What energy!"
-Bruce McCulloch - slearwig, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5But is the new stuff moving? I come from the 1970's and I remember Tower Records open til midnight seven days a week with vinyl stacked three palates deep, five feet high and more flying out the door and restocked every three days at any single location here in Los Angeles,
Eagles and Hotel California, Stevie Wonder, Led Zeppelin, Fleetwood Mac.
Where is it now? Is IPod moving that kind of volume? - sacramentalist, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5I think there's a CanCon law in Canada where a band must be able to play at least 5 Tragically Hip songs.
- inactive, on 07/08/2009, -14/+19You sound like another person who thinks the music he listens to is a facet of how cool he is so you decide to hate anything "mainstream".
- PhilPerspective, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5Springsteen plays 2 1/2 hours these days. He's soon to be 60 after all. But yeah, he's played 3 and 4 hours before. Check out bootlegs of the shows he played on Dec. 28, 29 and 31, 1980 at Nassau Coliseum.
- inactive, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5"Just when I thought i was out...they pull me back in!"
- itsmikey, on 07/08/2009, -1/+6Eeeeaaasy tiger.
- illinoise89, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5I, personally, would just be happy to see Chad Kroeger and Fergie go mute.
- thejackyl, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5"You sound like another person who thinks the music he listens to is a facet of how cool he is so you decide to hate anything "mainstream"."
I am so sick of people saying that. Nobody ***** does that.
Mainstream rock stations play whatever 2 or 3 specific styles of rock are popular at that time. Right now it's "emo" and post-grunge and "indie rock" or whatever else. So if those specific styles don't appeal to you then, guess what, you won't like what's being played on the radio! - AtFillmoreEast, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5I don't think you understand what his point is. It's not about the songs or the songwriters, it's about the musicians. All great musicians, regardless of genre, learn by first copying other musicians. If your first desire in music is to write and record your own music, you are skipping an important step in a musician's development. You have to get out there and play. There are some good songs being written now, but performance wise, I agree with the statement regarding mediocrity.
- Ajajadude, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4I'm not a huge Springsteen fan, like some of their hits, but that's about it. But, years ago, I went to one of their concerts and it was pretty bad ass. Especially given how long they played for.
- inactive, on 07/08/2009, -2/+6"You changed man, it used to be about the music!"
"Slag off!" - Rikushix, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4Definitely true to an extent. You won't see nearly as many improvised gigs, rock ballads that trail off into instrumental feats of skill, etc as you would at a Springsteen, Tom Petty, or Eagles concert, say, 20 years ago.
But if the fans love the music, then so what? The live concert is still just as good to them as it was to the people who went to Springsteen or Tom Petty 20 years ago. - inactive, on 07/08/2009, -4/+8let me guess.... some obscure, hip, local indie bands?
rock is so freaking dead when the last movement left is the hipster one - jcrew77, on 07/08/2009, -0/+3I just dugg you up... I think the world might be ending....
- calvincooper66, on 07/08/2009, -0/+3Why you little *****! Turn down that iPod! And get the ***** off my lawn!
- HappyScrappy, on 07/08/2009, -0/+3Yep. "You kids are ruining everything. You don't respect how we had to do things. I had to walk to school every day in 3 feet of snow, uphill both ways!"
- GreatSunJester, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2‘‘Kids are now going from their rooms where they are learning the rudiments of playing " -- I am sorry, but mashing colored buttons does not a musician make. : )
- bmcnally, on 07/08/2009, -2/+4Went to a Green Day concert last week. While I'm not a huge fan, I was extremely psyched when they reached a point in "Hitchin' a Ride" and just decided to chill out, doing a little bit of impromptu jamming.
Good bands play off the audience - they launch into ridiculously long solos (Led Zeppelin's How the West was Won). I think that that is what Zandt is trying to get at with the "Live" remarks. By seeing what gets people moving, an artist can put together a better album than sitting around saying "Well, this would probably sound really good". - mogwaiinjustice, on 07/08/2009, -1/+3@tmcal Some of the music i saw was mainstream and yes some of the bands i saw were obscure or "indie"... just so happens that some of those bands rocked really ***** hard. Just cause you haven't heard of it doesn't immediately make it hipster music.
Obscure and mainstream both have a lot to offer right now and there is no point avoiding either. I just happen to hate Mtv and most my local radio stations. - columbusgeek, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2I literally had no idea that was the same guy that was Silvio in the Sopranos until just now.
- Kidddrunkadelic, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2"Our true enemy has yet to reveal himself"
- CaptObvious, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2"Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in."
- mogwaiinjustice, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2yes, yes it is.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1Torrents. iTunes. Amazon MP3. etc, etc.
More music is moving now than every before. I'm not sure how I would have ever heard of half the music I've come to love without the global reach of the internet. - calvincooper66, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1Why you little...aww nevermind.
- jeffwmartin, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1I didn't realize there was a rule in rock n' roll that you couldn't have horns. Isn't rock n' roll about breaking rules?
- jeffwmartin, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1I meant rabid possums, but they can be fast too
- mogwaiinjustice, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1Obscure and mainstream music both have a lot to offer right now and there is no point avoiding either. The more you listen to the more you will find that is amazing
- adg36, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1I met an old man who had been active in the protest movements of the 60s. He had been thrown in jail many a time for voicing his beliefs. When I asked him what got him through the hard times, when he was in a cell awaiting his fate, his response was "the music".
My generation doesn't know what that's like - and it makes me sad. - adg36, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1I agree with the idea that this is why modern music is starting to suck. There is little incentive for an artist to make a whole album great - one or two good songs sell records now (well, assuming a record gets sold), so who cares if the rest of the album is good? Well, the consumer does, but the label doesn't - and the artist is beholden to the labels.
I think that in the future, the money will be in turning the artist into a firm, with live performances, sponsorships, merchandise, etc. being the products. Recorded music will turn into a marketing tool. That's what I'm working on at the moment - aside from managing a young band (www.myspace.com/getsthegirl), I'm working on what I think could be the next business model for the music industry.
Stay tuned. - itsmikey, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1People always lose their ***** over that comparison. Let me put this ***** in perspective for you before you talk down to me with statements like "have you ever listened to the White Album blah blahlllah":
The White Album is obviously the Beatles at their musical peak--at the musical peak of rock and pop in the 60's. If you listen to the album you can hear it and know it and feel it. Do you want to argue that? Great.
Furthermore, mainstream hip hop does not get any better than the Carter III. It embodies EVERYTHING that is hip hop, and hip hop artists have been dominating the charts over all other genres since Tupac got shot and Biggie was rapping about blunts and broads, ***** and bras, menage-a-tois, and sex in expensive cars......... it has all been building up to the Carter III.
The greats are out of the game. They know it's dead. Now we're left with T-Pain and ***** Akon. Terrible.
Hip hop has peaked. It is dead. From here on out we will just watch it die, see new genres emerge, and so on. For God's sake, Wayne is putting out a ROCK album next month because HE is bored with hip hop.
Only time will tell. - GreatSunJester, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1
- MikeyTwit, on 07/10/2009, -0/+1Funny, I can say the same about you..sucking balls.
- PuffyPuf, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1I'm commenting on the article, not on his show. No reason for the nasty attitude. I liked little steven until I read his moronic comments in this article. Did you read it? He is saying the music world needs more cover bands playing in bars to save it from mediocrity. You agree, and think "mustang sally" played for the millionth time in a bar is great stuff? Then refrain from "shooting your mouth off" on music, because YOU don't know what you're talking about.
- lucidgoo, on 07/08/2009, -0/+1FTA:
‘‘Kids are now going from their rooms where they are learning the rudiments of playing and they go right to MySpace and Facebook. They are skipping the most important stage of their life, which is the bar-band stage."
I have to say that this seems pretty right on. It's real easy to hype yourself up about how good you guys sound when you're in a garage or in some dorm room hanging out together. It is a whole other story to walk into some random bar in ***** Illinois and blow the roof off the place. -
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