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Led Zeppelin promoter wishes eBay would 'drop dead and die'
music.guardian.co.uk — Promoter Harvey Goldsmith has branded eBay the "biggest rip-off merchants in the world" after tickets to the forthcoming Led Zeppelin gig appeared for sale. "I have begged them to take [the tickets] off and they have basically told us to ***** off. So I will do everything I possibly can to ruin their lives."
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- jmkiii, on 10/17/2007, -18/+10Does that count as a double negative?
- Firethorne, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Nope, just redundant.
- Angostura, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1Nope, it is tautologous, though.
- jmkiii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I was thinking undead.
- bwhite, on 10/19/2007, -15/+55A lot of people don't like web sites or services. Who cares and why is this relevant for others to read?
- cal0140, on 10/15/2007, -5/+27Because he's saying that to enter the event you'll need not just the passcode provided with the tickets, but identification of the original ticket purchaser or you will be refused entry. Not only that, but no mention of this was given prior to ticket sales, as well as several days after while people spent hundreds of dollars on eBay for now useless tickets. But, you didn't read it so why would you know that?
- resplence, on 10/15/2007, -8/+4So the promoter's solution to that is to "kill" eBay? Rants are such a turn-off to me.
- dafragsta, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5What a coincidence! Passive compliance with the intentions of people looking to commit fraud against fans and smarmy dismissive responses to fairly impassioned comments that I care about internet people's turn-offs are such a turn-off to me.
- resplence, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah, why don't you wish we'd just drop dead and die?
- dafragsta, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5What a coincidence! Passive compliance with the intentions of people looking to commit fraud against fans and smarmy dismissive responses to fairly impassioned comments that I care about internet people's turn-offs are such a turn-off to me.
- resplence, on 10/15/2007, -8/+4So the promoter's solution to that is to "kill" eBay? Rants are such a turn-off to me.
- ToadLeg, on 10/19/2007, -0/+13It looks like the same ***** some people tried to pull when they showed up with $20,000 to buy all the Iphones that Apple had hoping that they would run out and they would be one of the few people to have them, jacking up the price on Ebay.
- SteveDeGroof, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Y'know, I remember way back when music promoters used to promote music.
I mean, this'd be like the movie industry doing something crazy like, say, putting so much copy-protection on a DVD that it's unplayable on some machines. Oh, wait... - fixedcoma, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1He's just a greedy ***** too! Mad that he didn't do the same or make as much money, go *****' figure...What a ***** cry baby bitch!!!
- brotherfranciz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Pipex announced that a stampede of Led Zeppelin fans had not only crashed the ticket registration website, but their entire service, and claimed that this meant around 20 million people must have been attempting to purchase tickets at the same time."
Let me just say: that is one bigass tube they've got there.
- cal0140, on 10/15/2007, -5/+27Because he's saying that to enter the event you'll need not just the passcode provided with the tickets, but identification of the original ticket purchaser or you will be refused entry. Not only that, but no mention of this was given prior to ticket sales, as well as several days after while people spent hundreds of dollars on eBay for now useless tickets. But, you didn't read it so why would you know that?
- Dokument, on 10/17/2007, -1/+45Yeah ebay, take that. meah (sticking tounge out)
- EgaoNoGenki, on 10/17/2007, -34/+5They ought to teach eBay a good, hard lesson to treat its users RIGHT. eBay suspends users just because they are family members of suspended users. That reminded me of North Korea, who imprisons whole families (3 GENERATIONS, in fact) to political concentration camps for the crimes of one person.
- speakerfordead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Would this be because they can't be sure two people from the same home aren't the same person?
- imikedaman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5My PayPal account suspended for months because my brother (who lives 1000 miles away) had his account locked for suspicious activity.
- speakerfordead, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2That sucks!
- metric7, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1No, they imprison whole families, 3 generations.
- speakerfordead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I meant eBay, though if you mean eBay I'll not be too surprised! :-p
- imikedaman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5My PayPal account suspended for months because my brother (who lives 1000 miles away) had his account locked for suspicious activity.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26Did you just compare eBay to a brutal communist regime? I think someone needs a bit of perspective.
- speakerfordead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Would this be because they can't be sure two people from the same home aren't the same person?
- skyshock1, on 10/17/2007, -9/+31"I have begged them to take [the tickets] off and they have basically told us to ***** off"
Source?- ivandir, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Aren't we supposed to believe everything we read on the internets?
- SiNN4R, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Yes we are. I am a nigerian prince who has vast amounts of wealth. I would love to give you all my worldly possessions for your financial information.
- dafragsta, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Absolutely not! You should instead believe everything you read that is not on the internet. No one in real life practices to deceive. Corporate serving media outlets and sensationalist hacks are looking out for only your best interests.
- Ventolin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20Calm down there, wikipedia.
- Godel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19The source is the guy himself. He's saying that he himself asked ebay to take the tickets off. What more of a source do you want?
- resplence, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3The informations exchanged between him and eBay. One man's word is not worth much as evidence.
- card51short, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7source? it's his quote, doesn't mean the person who wrote the article has to check up on all the claims of person who quotes.
- Kurisuku, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Considering that he's obviously computer illiterate, I really DOUBT there's a source. Any communication he did with eBay, I would bet, was 100% over the telephone. A blackberry, specifically.
- fixedcoma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Sorry, it was me and i meant it," ***** OFF!"
- ivandir, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Aren't we supposed to believe everything we read on the internets?
- dagetti, on 10/17/2007, -1/+36Promoter sounds like he's just whining..
Policy is policy, but since he doesn't like it, he'll make sure to ruin eBay's life. Yes, like some half-ass LZ promoter can take down eBay, go ahead and try. - shadowspawn, on 10/17/2007, -7/+83after walking through 2 inches of piss and ***** from their older audience that wished they were younger, showing up drunk at their last "reunion" concert, after purchasing t-shirts that fell apart after 3 washings, and listening to 10 minutes of the band and 50 minutes of some indian crap orchestra... who the ***** really cares?
Great band in their day. 30 years ago. - gmc74, on 10/17/2007, -8/+61Welcome to the free market Harvey, you jackass...
- HUKI365, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7A free market implies that a citizen is allowed to sell tickets with whatever restrictions he wants, and take whatever action he wants to prevent unauthorised sales of tickets.
- jmpeagle, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7that's called renting, not selling.
- catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -8/+9Actually, the people with these tickets are professional scalpers. They buy all the tickets they can using their connections, hold them until sell-out, then resell them at a hyper-inflated price. That is not free market.
- orangysb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7actually it is still free market because people are free to choose whether to buy from these scalpers or not, if there is no demand for these inflated tickets, the scalpers would've made a loss but have already purchased the tickets, so the organisers are still raking in revenue, but if there is demand, that is there are people willing to pay the higher price, both the organisers and the scalpers would make profits, so the surplus is maximised as a whole
- HUKI365, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7A free market implies that a citizen is allowed to sell tickets with whatever restrictions he wants, and take whatever action he wants to prevent unauthorised sales of tickets.
- robbied462, on 10/17/2007, -1/+137A music promoter is calling eBay the biggest rip-off merchants in the world...
I'm not sure he's familiar with his own work...- jongos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Well said.
- tizz66, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29ESPECIALLY his own work - for this very gig. They did a system whereby people registered for codes, which were sent out when tickets went on sale, and you had to give you code to buy a ticket. AFTER they had sold the tickets, they told people that any tickets bought under a name different to the one the code was registered to would be cancelled - so if you paid for your tickets using your spouses card, your tickets will be voided. Not only that, they didn't tell people you had to be over 18 to attend, so anyone under 18 who got tickets is out of luck.
Good job changing the goalposts AFTER you've sold your tickets. What a ***** way to do business. eBay isn't a patch on him.- hplasm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I wish I could digg you up for a week. *claps*
- Jadey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Typical of the music industry's obsession with control in general.
- readerofbooks, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11i love the last comment of the article
"In the standfirst we mistakenly called Harvey Goldsmith Harvey Goldstein. This has been corrected."
still a nice jewish name though whew our plot to take over the world remains unaffected- SiNN4R, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2readerofbooks is passing zionist codes.
- readerofbooks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2shhh not too loud you know who might hear you and shut me do......
- Rikkochet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4They shut you down but you managed to throw in some punctuation? That's like chiseling AAAARRRRGGGHH on the wall while you're dying in the middle of writing...
- readerofbooks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2shhh not too loud you know who might hear you and shut me do......
- SiNN4R, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2readerofbooks is passing zionist codes.
- CyberSkull, on 10/17/2007, -0/+17He's just bitter that he can't get a taste of the resale profits.
- joe90210, on 10/17/2007, -2/+16what a ***** moron, all he's doing is punishing fans who are doing anything they can to get tickets, the scalpers have already made their money, what the ***** do they care that you won't let people in now?
- Schmidtopolis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Just shows you how little the previous generation understands the CURRENT market, and how practices need to change, and adapt to the times, not fight them tooth and nail.
- grizzlyb3ar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Exactly - simple id requirements will stop scalpers from illegally reselling tickets, no matter how much they fight tooth and nail!
- SPLASTiK, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I don't like the ID requirements... what if you purchased the tickets in good faith to attend but something comes up? Should you really have to suck up a $$$ loss when you could sell your tickets for face value, profit or even just give them away to someone who'd want to go?
- grizzlyb3ar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Exactly - simple id requirements will stop scalpers from illegally reselling tickets, no matter how much they fight tooth and nail!
- Schmidtopolis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Just shows you how little the previous generation understands the CURRENT market, and how practices need to change, and adapt to the times, not fight them tooth and nail.
- sockpuppets, on 10/17/2007, -5/+19If it were a double homicide and paypal was killed in the struggle I'd be ok with that.
- bossm4n, on 10/17/2007, -1/+41Dear Harvey,
If you want to screw all of those Ebay auctioneers scalping tickets, talk the boys into doing 3+ more shows back-to-back, then watch the prices of those Ebay tickets fall through the floor. Supply and demand.
Signed,
Bona fide fans- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -13/+1Wouldn't work. there are enough people stupid enough to think that Stairway to Heaven is a good song that the demand wouldn't drop all that much. Enough idiots would go to more than one concert. Plus there are plenty of people wiling to pay the current scalper prices but are shut out.
- sgtpppr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Maybe you'll get lucky and your dream of Styx returning to town will happen!
- repete, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Woah! Aging-rocker fight! Dueling walking-frames at dawn is it? (I keed. I'm hardly young).
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1"there are enough people stupid enough to think that Stairway to Heaven is a good song"
In my books, that gets you a burry and a block, welcome to the list moron- chinolofus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1nerd fight!
- sgtpppr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Maybe you'll get lucky and your dream of Styx returning to town will happen!
- mousky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Better yet, maybe Harvey should just sell his tickets directly on eBay. He would get a bigger piece of the action - I'm sure those front row seats would make a killing on eBay.
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -13/+1Wouldn't work. there are enough people stupid enough to think that Stairway to Heaven is a good song that the demand wouldn't drop all that much. Enough idiots would go to more than one concert. Plus there are plenty of people wiling to pay the current scalper prices but are shut out.
- jmpeagle, on 10/17/2007, -4/+17Ebay should kill Harvey Goldsmith and auction his corpse
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Body parts are against their TOS.
- iamanalog, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1what about sacks of *****?
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I think that would be against the TOS as well. Bodily fluids are forbidden as well.
- iamanalog, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1what about sacks of *****?
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Body parts are against their TOS.
- Markus86, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8wow, that guy is just being a real big baby about this, who cares as long as money is made
- sockpuppets, on 10/17/2007, -0/+15When the Lance Armstrong foundation asked eBay to delist their bracelets they were told the same thing. If they're going to keep that revenue they're certainly not going to give a ***** about Led Zepplin tickets...
- deskattire, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Agree with him or not, you've got to at least enjoy his colorful language. I'm loving that bluntness.
- kanabiis, on 10/17/2007, -6/+24So, a promoter running a very draconian anti fan ticket lottery system is complaining that Ebay is allowing users to sell the tickets to the event they they now own??
Yea, ***** off Led Zeppelin, and your ***** ass promoter. Once I buy tickets to an event they are MINE, to do with what I want, even if that means just to wipe my ass with them...
Who the ***** do they think they are? I hated Ozzfest's attempt at something similar, but at least they were giving the tickets away for free, this system that Led Zeppelin is using, its just anti fan all the way around...
Good for eBay.... I want to send this douche an email letting him know just what a ***** hypocritical moron he is...- Stalks, on 10/10/2007, -12/+1You're a moron.
- catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4If they sold tickets the regular way, no fans would get them at all unless it was from a scalper. The whole point of a lottery is to prevent or limit scalping.
- hplasm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Doesn't stop old Harvey getting his razor out though... grabbing get.
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Why in the hell would they want to prevent or limit scalping? All that really does is screw the fans even more, by preventing them from getting tickets at all.
It's called a free market, and in a free market, people are going to resell things. The lotto system is fine because demand was high, so I understand that perfectly. Prevents people from buying large blocks of tickets.
But after you've run your lotto and sold all your tickets, then not allowing people to trade or sell them is just being a complete and total twit. It's just really screwing over the fans, because somebody who won the lottery but doesn't really want to go to the show can now sell the ticket to somebody that really does want to go, only you're being a dick and preventing that.
- havok0283, on 10/17/2007, -8/+14I am glad someone is standing up to this *****! It is ridiculous, every time a concert or show releases tickets, these douche bags at these ticket hocking companies swoop in, buy up the best seats, then turn around and sell them back to the fans at a 500% markup. If you like a band, and can't front 1000 bucks a pop for one ticket these days, you are screwed! I like the idea of selling tickets to individuals, then having them prove they are in fact the ones who bought the tickets in the first place.
- uknowwhoibe, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5So, you're anti-American-capitalism?
- grizzlyb3ar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6absolutely, if that means that the average punter cannot get tickets to their gigs!
- schroeder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I believe the biggest problem was that this verification was decided after the tickets were sold. Also, I don't know how the lottery worked, but having a limit to the number of tickets a person/card could buy may have helped.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1On one hand, I see what you're saying. On the other, all the good seats used to get gobbled up by the "camp out" nut jobs and I'd get stuck in the back. E-bay has allowed me to see TOOL 5 times this last year with in-*****'-credible seats every show.
- mousky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Shouldn't you be directing your comments at the fans that paid the 500% markup? They are the ones driving the demand for these tickets?
- uknowwhoibe, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5So, you're anti-American-capitalism?
- Saiing, on 10/17/2007, -6/+23Hypocrit. Goldsmith's Led Zepplin tickets are priced at 125 UK pounds each (nearly 250 US dollars) and he has the nerve to claim people are being 'ripped off' by others!? 250 bucks for a single show? What kind of fantasy world does he live in?
- lunarworks, on 10/17/2007, -1/+12A single show. That's the key phrase.
They haven't played for something like 25 years, and they don't currently have plans to do it again. - ShaunO, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2125 quid for a one-off show is pretty reasonable. the conversion only looks nasty because the dollar's puking in the gutter.
- lunarworks, on 10/17/2007, -1/+12A single show. That's the key phrase.
- asspants, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6he's pissed off that he didnt have the idea first to sell the tickets on ebay.
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Yeah im sure thats it, he just didn't know a reunion could command more than standard concert prices.. Are you ***** retarded?
- suiteone, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6What a whiner, if he is so concerned about the money, he should have held his own auction. If a fan is willing to pay more money, I don't see how they should be punished. Get over It!
- Brodels, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Because then fans are out priced and you'll just get a load of rich people who want to go because it's 'cool' rather than lots of true fans that can't afford crazy prices... admitedly the tickets aren't that cheap already, but still...
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You can't afford crazy prices? Bummer. Life sucks, get a helmet.
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You know what? I gotta say it. ***** the fans. *****'em!
- Brodels, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Because then fans are out priced and you'll just get a load of rich people who want to go because it's 'cool' rather than lots of true fans that can't afford crazy prices... admitedly the tickets aren't that cheap already, but still...
- elk1, on 10/17/2007, -1/+23ebay is awesome, and buying second hand tickets always comes at a premium.
ticketmaster on the other hand are a bunch of monopolistic scam artists. For small dollar shows in particular. I want to buy tickets to an $18 show and have to shell out $10 in various handling fees per ticket. Then I have to pay for them to print and ship them to me on top of that. Now that is a scam, and there are no options for getting tickets elsewhere. - MarkusGarvey, on 10/17/2007, -4/+7i think it's ridiculous that people pay that much money to see a stupid show!.....$2000.00!!!...to fight a drunken, vomiting crowd?....
- etx313, on 10/17/2007, -13/+7This guy sucks, eBay sucks, and yes... Even Led Zeppelin sucks.
- hplasm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Nice Rocky Horror vibe you have going there :)
- MrUnderbridge, on 10/17/2007, -2/+9In the name of balance...
Let's consider what's going on here. If scalpers can make a nearly 10x markup on the tickets, that means one of two things is going on here:
A) Harvey has no concept of what the band could command at the gate, or
B) Harvey actually wanted to reward the real fans through a lottery system at below-market rates
Now, I know it fits in better with the whole hating the music industry thing to go with A). But, the fact is that he could have done an auction from the outset to make the most money. The fact that a lottery was established to allow people to buy the tickets does sort of imply that he knew he was taking below-market prices for the tickets. Otherwise he could have just let supply and demand do it for him and forget the lottery.
If I were a promoter and I really wanted to do something nice for the loyal fans of an old band, and the fans instead turned shill, I'd be pissed too. I can't prove that's what happened here, but it does appear that he made a real effort to control the costs of attending the show only to have the scalpers (the real bottom feeders, by the way) come in and make the money he left on the table.
For what it's worth, I have no love for music promoters nor the industry at large, but I think this might be a case of a decent guy who's pissed because his good deed got punished.- satanatnmtedu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8And, one should understand that the concert would be sought by scalpers, and the real fans would be the ones buying the scalped tickets. So, the real fans are the ones that will be seeing the concert. By taking this stance, he is screwing the real fans he calims to want to support.
The guy is a tool. - hellotyler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2market ≠ black market...
things on the black market ALWAYS cost more- repete, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7216/thatsracis ... :-)
- TrevorBelmont, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This aint 4chan. Secure that *****.
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Wow someone that actually gets it on digg... Amazing really and you arent being dugg down!
- satanatnmtedu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8And, one should understand that the concert would be sought by scalpers, and the real fans would be the ones buying the scalped tickets. So, the real fans are the ones that will be seeing the concert. By taking this stance, he is screwing the real fans he calims to want to support.
- vstmonger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5As much as I loved Zep when I was a teenager, it's the public who is getting ripped off by these outrageous ticket prices. It's not Led Zep anymore. anyhow. Jimmy, go back to your castle and dry hump Bohnams ghost with your gibson.
- kick, on 10/17/2007, -5/+6As a ticket broker myself, I have to admit that the prospect of making $50k from buying a bloc of tickets (£1k seems low to me - for good seats, anyway) is too enticing to pass up. It's a free market and these people should feel no shame in getting market value for something they purchased. The promoter is just pissed he's missing out on the secondary market. His "loss", your gain.
- havok0283, on 10/17/2007, -3/+3No, Our loss, your gain. Same thing though, right?
- kick, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3If you're a ticket holder and want to sell you tickets on the secondary market, then yes, your gain. Listen, the days of yore when our parents saw The Who in Albuquerque for $15.50 are over. Do you know why? Because acts of that level, in those days, didn't bring along 20 tractor trailers of gear. Arena/stadium level sound is very, very expensive. Lights, too. Hiring world class staff to man it is even more expensive. To give you an example, U2's last tour cost them $50m to produce. You have to hit a lot of cities at a fairly high average ticket price to even make that back, let alone profit. Ask Larry Mullen, Jr how he felt about not making any money on the ZooTV tour. This is a business.
Anyway, I'm not preventing the wide-eyed kid or huge fan with a tight budget from seeing their favourite acts. I go after tickets that 95% of people couldn't afford at face value, let alone what the attract on the open market. I'm talking rows 1-15 (or whatever is good). In the promoters defense, one-offs like these are really easy ways to lose $5m in two hours. He would have been wise to hold a few thousand tickets for an auction and donate some % to charity - which acts like Bruce Springsteen and Modanna are already doing. Very savvy.
Anyway, call me a scalper if you will, but I'm not on the streets selling tickets. I work out of an office and have a storefront with a list of loyal customers who rely on me to source great tickets because they don't have the time to log onto ticketmaster and probably not get the best seats when they become available.
Just my two cents.
- kick, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3If you're a ticket holder and want to sell you tickets on the secondary market, then yes, your gain. Listen, the days of yore when our parents saw The Who in Albuquerque for $15.50 are over. Do you know why? Because acts of that level, in those days, didn't bring along 20 tractor trailers of gear. Arena/stadium level sound is very, very expensive. Lights, too. Hiring world class staff to man it is even more expensive. To give you an example, U2's last tour cost them $50m to produce. You have to hit a lot of cities at a fairly high average ticket price to even make that back, let alone profit. Ask Larry Mullen, Jr how he felt about not making any money on the ZooTV tour. This is a business.
- bingobongony, on 10/17/2007, -2/+1sorry if I don't beleive your choice of occupation. Why do I get the feeling that if this was a story about truck divers, oyou would say "As a big rig driver myslef..." Not to mention, based on your profile picture, you look like you are 16 tops.
- kick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, I was about 20 when that picture was taken. I'm 25 now. Believe what you want.
- havok0283, on 10/17/2007, -3/+3No, Our loss, your gain. Same thing though, right?
- Weedduder, on 10/10/2007, -11/+2Zep is cool and ***** cause they were the original music and weed band. When they play, i can play the opening to stairway to heavan, they were smokin weed. So its cool. Old dudes live longer cause they smoke weed.
- mandarin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Can I subscribe to your newsletter?
- Weedduder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1whats that guy? is it about Zep?
- defythereds, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1a sphincter says what?
- mandarin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Can I subscribe to your newsletter?
- UncleBadTouch, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2These guy's are old and irrelevant. The only thing they're going to accomplish is further ruining the image they once had.
- card51short, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"When they play, i can play the opening to stairway to heavan, they were smokin weed"
You must be very, VERY old - wsycng, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3eBay should disappear from the face of the earth.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3WHY is this guy whining? What does he care if eBay resells tickets?
- hplasm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1There are the 'haves' and the ' have yachts' Harvey Goldbrick needs a new ***** space yacht, but he's only 2 billion short... thanks to eBay. Capitalist Running Dog!!
(yes, I've paid thru the nose so he can sniff my cash up his. grrrrrrr!)
- hplasm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1There are the 'haves' and the ' have yachts' Harvey Goldbrick needs a new ***** space yacht, but he's only 2 billion short... thanks to eBay. Capitalist Running Dog!!
- SzaszMan, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Led Zeppelin is soooo old.
- Weedduder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0yeah man theyr old and ***** becase they smoke at least a bag each everyday. I know a dude thats 75 and still plays the keyboard and smokes weed everyday.
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You know, I'm pro-marijuana. So when I digg you down and block you, I don't want you to get the idea that I'm against weed. I'm just against idiots like you.
Just wanted to be clear on that.
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You know, I'm pro-marijuana. So when I digg you down and block you, I don't want you to get the idea that I'm against weed. I'm just against idiots like you.
- Weedduder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0yeah man theyr old and ***** becase they smoke at least a bag each everyday. I know a dude thats 75 and still plays the keyboard and smokes weed everyday.
- scabbers, on 10/17/2007, -5/+9eBay are a bunch of crooks. They have millions of blatantly counterfeit goods for sale by "powersellers" and never pull the auctions even if you report them.
- Nocturnal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5LOL at the counter feiter digging you down.
- TubbyMcGee, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1I thought the Zep died in a plane in the 40's
- hplasm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1R101, man... |:)
- djsputnik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4If he was serious they would expand the single reunion to 12 shows. The value of scalped tickets would go flat as the market would be saturated with available seats.
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Yeah because 12 shows is the same as one right? ***** they wanted to do one and not have people rip everyone off on Ebay
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Who's ripping off who? If I was to go and pay, say, $2000 for a ticket to a show I really wanted to see, then I'd feel that the ticket was worth it. Why? Because I bought the damn thing. If it wasn't worth it, then I wouldn't have paid that much for it.
People bitch about ticket prices, but they still pay for the damn things. If they really thought it was too much, they wouldn't buy the things. Simple free market. Deal with it.
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Who's ripping off who? If I was to go and pay, say, $2000 for a ticket to a show I really wanted to see, then I'd feel that the ticket was worth it. Why? Because I bought the damn thing. If it wasn't worth it, then I wouldn't have paid that much for it.
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Yeah because 12 shows is the same as one right? ***** they wanted to do one and not have people rip everyone off on Ebay
- luteslinger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Dugg for the stereotypical nail.
- Julz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1i wish ebay would die, all 5 concerts of Draft punk in Australia sold out in 13hrs, in 5mins half of the tickets where on Ebay.com.au for 3 to 4 times the original price! and ebay doesn't bother taking them down!
- repete, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Mate! Daft Punk were in Oz? Dang. Didn't hear about that from our side of the Tasman...:-(
- mapkinase, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Before that digg story I did not even know LZ does tours. Nice job, Harvey... Clever publicity
- NOFXY, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2and you'd be right. they don't "do" tours. its a single reunion tour. just one and you might never get to see Led Zeppelin play live again (minus Bonham, RIP). so he didn't need much publicity. Any Led Zeppelin fan has already heard of it and knows they're pretty much SOL in this ticket lottery system they've got.
- sims5487, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7It's simple economics. What the ***** else did this guy expect? High demand and low supply is going to lead to a very high price.
- msfayzer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2he's just pissed that he didn't get the market price
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1What's it like being rich?
No really
- geekee, on 10/17/2007, -4/+8You guys don't get it. He's pissed off because he wanted fans to buy the tickets at what he considered a reasonable price. He doesn't want scalpers buying the tickets instead, and then reselling them on ebay, forcing fans to pay much more for them. It was supposed to be a lottery, not a free market deal where only the richest fans go. He probably doesn't have any legal standing unless there are laws specifically against scalping.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Exactly, they set up a system to make scalping unreasonable because a ticket bought from a scalper would be useless. So people selling tickets on ebay are scamming and people buying on ebay are being ripped off. Promoter tries to get ebay to protect people who don't know better,and people are mad at him???
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Welcome to Digg
People here also like Ru paul - Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No, we are pissed at him because we don't like his system.
Somebody who didn't win the lotto but would be okay paying higher prices to see the show anyway? Yeah, he just screwed all of those fans. And there's a lot more people who didn't win his lotto.
***** Harvey Goldsmith. I hope he drops dead and dies. :P
- rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Welcome to Digg
- FearlessFreep, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Exactly, they set up a system to make scalping unreasonable because a ticket bought from a scalper would be useless. So people selling tickets on ebay are scamming and people buying on ebay are being ripped off. Promoter tries to get ebay to protect people who don't know better,and people are mad at him???
- Darrelc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1That guy selling the ticket on ebay seemed like a nice bloke actually from reading the description.
- byrnsey88, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0a lawsuit has been started
- Ligeiapg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I say we all start emailing them "justified explanations" right now!
- Syphon8, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Wait...
He has a bunch of friends who DON'T WANT TO GO? - vwvan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I can get Zep tickets on eBay! Awesome.
He should, "squeeze them till the juice runs down their leg". - Beestie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Funny - I guess its ok that Ticketmaster has been raping Zeppelin fans for decades but let a Zep fan try to make a buck or two and all hell breaks loose.
- Mikhail101, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1wow 1000 pound bids, i dont see whats the big deal, i mean Plant and Paige have reunited like many times before the only difference that they got John Paul Jones who to be honest isn't a good bass player, i mean there better bands from there time period better than them like Yes, Deep Purple, The Who, King Crimson, Genesis(Gabriel Era) etc. etc. Led Zeppelin were good but they are extremely overated, and all of them are in there 60s, there not gonna pull of a show like they did in the 1970s, Roberts Plants can't reach the high notes like he used to.
- Stephiems, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2You obviously don't know that much about music. You say John Paul Jones isn't a good bass player, then you say that The Who is a better band. Their bass player may be better, but the more important member, the guitar player, maybe be a good song writer, but doesn't even come close to Paige. In fact, he is the main influence for guitar players today who don't learn to play their instrument, don't tune their guitar and jump around like idiots. Led Zeppelin where so great because they were able to have songs across all genres and make them masterpieces. Yes, some things they did were a bit sketchy, but overall they were a much more influential and different band then any of the ones you mentioned. Deep Purple were great, probably on par with Led Zeppelin, but I don't think the other bands match up although they are good bands.
- watcht, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Im a heavy Zeppelin listener, and i must admit Paige was very sloppy in playing. Your also wrong on Deep Purple and the Who not being a match up on Zeppelin. They had different styles, and that doesnt make em any less better than each other. At the end of the day though it aint about who's on top dog, but the choices of music each band offered us.
Btw The most important part of the band is either the bass, or drum player, how do i know this? they're the ones who keep the song time going if they ***** up the songs goes pfft...guitarists would murder songs if it werent for the drummer or bassist keeping time... - Mikhail101, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1ugh tony levin, john enwhistle, roger waters, chris squire, steve harris to name a few. Led Zepplin were a good band but i dont think they should hype people up to pay 1000 pounds for a ticket for a one time show that wont sound as energetic as it did back in the day. They should do a few venues or a small tour but paige and plant who are the key members or zepplin have reunited before so i dont see much excitement when your adding john paul jones. His bass is inaudible, flat and tasteless.
- watcht, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Im a heavy Zeppelin listener, and i must admit Paige was very sloppy in playing. Your also wrong on Deep Purple and the Who not being a match up on Zeppelin. They had different styles, and that doesnt make em any less better than each other. At the end of the day though it aint about who's on top dog, but the choices of music each band offered us.
- Stephiems, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2You obviously don't know that much about music. You say John Paul Jones isn't a good bass player, then you say that The Who is a better band. Their bass player may be better, but the more important member, the guitar player, maybe be a good song writer, but doesn't even come close to Paige. In fact, he is the main influence for guitar players today who don't learn to play their instrument, don't tune their guitar and jump around like idiots. Led Zeppelin where so great because they were able to have songs across all genres and make them masterpieces. Yes, some things they did were a bit sketchy, but overall they were a much more influential and different band then any of the ones you mentioned. Deep Purple were great, probably on par with Led Zeppelin, but I don't think the other bands match up although they are good bands.
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