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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've never used allofmp3 (isn't it in russian?). I do use mp3search.ru and musicmp3.ru, though. Great sites (and in english). One charges by the megabyte so a song is usually around 5 to 8 cents. The other is per-song which is 10 cents each (and a 10% discount if you get a full album at a time). Tracks under 30 seconds are free.
Interesting thing is, if you read mp3search.ru, their FAQ states that they DO pay royalties. - 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1>> Said before, saying again. Your dollars speak loudest. Go indie. Grab your music with StationRipper from streaming audio. Buy your ***** from your favorite asian in China or perhaps Singapore. Do whatever you want, but don't ever walk into a record store, don't buy from CDNow, or anything else associated with lining the RIAA's pockets. Cut off their source of revenue and watch them die an agonizing death.
Absolutely. But anyone who decides to do this, PLEASE skip the hypocrisy that comes with the "i'll boycott my purchase of RIAA music, but I 'll download it so that my "boycott" won't affect my listening pleasure" mentality. If you decide to skip out on the RIAA, kudos...but if you don't go the whole nine yards, your "boycott" will mean nothing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> Have you ever checked to see how much studio time costs per hour to record a song?
Last time I checked (I was at the news stand about 30 miniutes ago) a studio wasn't required.
Lack of a recording studio has *NEVER* stopped talented artists.
In fact, artists that *require* a studio (and excessive post-production fine tuning) are the exact no talent hacks currently being protected by the crap system(s) that everyone is so up-in-arms about. - eastshores, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What is interesting here, is that the RIAA wants to send a stern message to the general public about how it is illegal to trade copyrighted music online; in doing so they want to avoid looking bad in the PR machine. All the while, they are facing increasing political and PR pressure from those that feel that they overcharge and monopolize the industry.
They are stuck in a damned if you do, damned if you dont scenario. I am glad that individuals like Patti Santangelo are contributing to what is becoming a national debate. The idea that parents need to know it is illegal shouldn't come at the cost of what are largely innocent individuals.
To me, if you took the firearm situation, where parents have a clear definition of what is acceptable / safe and what is not in regards to their childrens exposure and use, this would not be as difficult a problem. What is at stake here is a complex freedom that has potential to do great good and possibly the potential to break laws or damage profits of corporations. At least these cases for the moment have to remain civil cases. - Drewskey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would like to subpoena Cary Sherman's income statements...hmm how did he get so rich????
- Cyberdactyl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Look, the music industry fatcats use the RIAA as their shakedown goons.
They can care less who is at the "guilty" IP address. All this ***** of the consumer with $18 CDs with rootkits that costs them $1-4 to produce screams the industry is scared of the evolving IT but at the same time wants to squeeze every last dime out of their aging business model.
If a few innocent single moms get caught in the crossfire so be it. The rootkit drama should make it clear the consumer is way WAY down on the list of consideration. - Cassidy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Did anyone else notice the Warez and Morpheus ads on the sides of the screen?
- brbeaird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Get a few people who can play some instruments with somebody who can sing and I can record it from my computer, run it through Audacity and it'll sound pro-quality"
Oh good. I guess we should go to let the sound engineers in all the recording studios of the world know they they are wasting their time since they could just be using your computer instead. -_- - brbeaird, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2She's going to lose this case. It's a shame this has become so nasty. The RIAA is really blowing its chance to have the general public behind it as a whole. At the core of it all, they are ultimately right. Downloading = stealing what you would otherwise have to pay money for (regardless of whether or not it is overpriced). The problem is that they have chosen a very poor strategy of dealing with this. When they find out the IP belonged to some grandmother, they should have just given a warning, maybe a very small fee ($100 or less), and dropped it. If they find IP's that belong to some 20-year-old guy in a basement somewhere with 3 servers full of 1000 GB of songs that just upload all day long....sure - go ahead and fine him a few thousand. Randomly suing normal people will never end this problem. It's like a state ordering all its police officers to write tickets to ANYONE driving even 1 mph over the speed limit. That kind of thing doesn't work.
- mgrasso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you hate the RIAA, you can do at least one thing. Go see a local band. Just once. Bring a friend and have a beer or two, or seven. At least you'll know that the RIAA will not see a penny of that $5 cover charge.
Oh, and once an a while, you may find yourself saying, "Holy *****, these guys are good". - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, appaerntly a single song costs $480 in RIAA land.
- tryferos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I personally use ITunes, and buy CD's. I get all my music legally and dont download pirated stuff off the internet. That being said, the RIAA lost this battle ages ago. Those who know what they are doing won't stop, but if they even thought about it, this kind of behavior from the RIAA will only change their minds.
The only people really responsible for "decimating the music industry" as Cary Sherman said is the RIAA. They are attacking people with microscopic or no blame. That wont stop anything. The only way to stop the downloading is to pull the plug on the internet. And since that will never happen, the RIAA will continue to waste its time and money. If this then causes prices to be outrageous and them developing an even more "thats the price, deal with it" attitude, more and more people will find "alternate ways" to obtain music. - northLite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"If you are still using P2P you deserve to be sued. lol j/k but still you should switch to bittorrent."-yang1205
Bittorent is P2P dumbass. - battybattybatt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I've never used allofmp3 (isn't it in russian?). I do use mp3search.ru and musicmp3.ru, though. Great sites (and in english). One charges by the megabyte so a song is usually around 5 to 8 cents. The other is per-song which is 10 cents each (and a 10% discount if you get a full album at a time). Tracks under 30 seconds are free.
Interesting thing is, if you read mp3search.ru, their FAQ states that they DO pay royalties.
posted by Seumas (0) at 02"
Do we think for one nano, that the RIAA is going to go against a mafia-run .ru music download site? There is not one dime that the RIAA will see from any .ru site. Yeah, "I DO pay ALL of my taxes" that I choose to REPORT. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Said before, saying again. Your dollars speak loudest. Go indie. Grab your music with StationRipper from streaming audio. Buy your ***** from your favorite asian in China or perhaps Singapore. Do whatever you want, but don't ever walk into a record store, don't buy from CDNow, or anything else associated with lining the RIAA's pockets. Cut off their source of revenue and watch them die an agonizing death.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Add 3 pinches of pepper and allow to simmer for around 3 minutes until you've got a nice rich aroma of fat cat in the air.
- rmendis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Site down. Any other links?
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Besides, if they didn't offer English, that's a whole lot of lost customers!
- sk1d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can someone explain to me how an album, even though they are already over priced, is worth $24,000 stolen?
And why is the RIAA collecting money from these people? If I break the law and there is a fine attached to the penalty, the money goes to the court, not the person who i committed the crime against. - Ductapemaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Allofmp3.com ROCKS! And they say iTunes is too cheap...lol...2 cents per megabyte there
- samfrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They get money because the suits are just settlements before the actual case. The RIAA is using mafia tactics.
- samfrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Also: WTFFF why is it 2 cents a meg, used to be 1 wtf what a rip
- FRAGaLOT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1this article didn't tell me anything new about how the RIAA goes about suing people. no digg.
- fredgarvin1138, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2For those of you who sympathize with this gal, and understand that the RIAA is being the 300lb gorilla in this - I agree with you.
For those of you shouting "Music should be free!" and "F the RIAA - they're just trying to make rich music execs richer!" - you are stupid, and probably 15 (or just stupid). If I write a song, and record it, and send it to a record label to be published - YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE IT UNLESS YOU P-A-Y FOR IT, *****.
How the RIAA is acting, trying to "make an example" out of people, and trying to settle for thousands of dollars ("because we ASSUME that 1500 people downloaded the song from your IP") is beyond ridiculous, and I applaud every effort to make them start loosing these court cases. But, to say they shouldn't exist, or should leave people alone and let them download and share songs all they want - well, that's just mindlessly stupid. - kamizu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0holland rules. so happy to be living here. but yea, the *AA suck monkey testicles.
- thomashawk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hopefully getting some mainstream attention with get Congress to quit going for the easy Hollywood campaign money and actually do something to protect their constituents against this kind of extortion.
- chess007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You think this is bad? The RIAA sued the mother of a 12 year old who lived in the projects. Projects = very low income housing paid for by the government.
Thing is, most don't fight them. Most people settle and sign non disclosure agreements. Props to the lady for fighting them.
RIAA has basicly become the Internet Mafia. Although I doubt even the mafia would try and strong arm a 12 year old. - rolypolyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hello, EFF? Where are you?
- deivys, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@seumans
What do you think the .ru at the end of the adress stand for? - Clazor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0one word.....Bastards
- m0laria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That riaa guys last comments seriously made me sick inside.
- antiwmac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0digg effect.
- junkyblake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0allofmp3.com is in english
- KyleGoetz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I know I'm going to be the devil's advocate here, but the argument the woman makes about how she didn't have the technical know-how to prevent her kids from downloading the music should be sufficient to release her of responsibility is like saying "I can't drive, so when my 10 year old kid ran over his teacher on purpose because I gave him the car, I shouldn't be held responsible." Someone please tell me why I miss the point, because I'm sure I am.
- JackDoyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"O'BRIEN: This is the Internet protocol address...
SANTANGELO: Yes.
O'BRIEN: ... which is like the computer's phone number, essentially.
SANTANGELO: Right."
Bad analogy... my parents have had the same phone number since we moved here, 25 years ago. Raise your hand if you have had the same dynamic IP address for 25 years... - ezweave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Oh good. I guess we should go to let the sound engineers in all the recording studios of the world know they they are wasting their time since they could just be using your computer instead. -_-"
Yar, I've been involved in both and as much of a nerd as I am, it takes alot longer for me to compose a song and multitrack it in my home studio, then to have an engineer do it (not the composing). It can actually be pretty distracting and time consuming to do it all yourself.
Decent songwriting takes time, even if you have the "fire" to do it... you may come up with a song and play it for a year in gigs and practice before you like it enough to record it. Songwriting is also frustrating at times, since you have to get the whole band on the same page for certain parts. Even the best songs that come together quickly still take a few hours to record at home.
All I am saying is that writing a song and recording a song are two different things and, as pointed out, it all takes time.
I buy my music legally and not from allofmp3 or whatever. Those guys are ripping off artists worse than the labels. Even indie labels are members of the RIAA, but I like music and I won't let the RIAA dictate what I like. - Moocat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My mother called me last night because she couldn't even get a pdf attached to her email. And I have a reasonable good assumption that my brother in his teens downloads music. While I believe they both deserve to burn in hell for various reasons, the RIAA won't ever get a dime out of them because of her connections. As such, you probably won't ever seen someone like an ex-president or senate member getting sued...I don't wonder why either.
RIAA and all it's political ***** and fear-mongering is digging it's own grave with a backhoe, but nobody is going to push them in until the people threaten to push the politicians backing them in first. - laundrysoap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I also use soundclick.com as a way to distribute my music. There are signed bands that use soundclick. Try it.
I don't want to get in a debate over this, but I think that downloading p2p would be more of a boycott than not buying CDs. This is because you are screwing them out of "possible earnings", an industry term for "extortion money". Seriously. Read that Courtney Love article, it's amazing. So I am on the side of Santangelo. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bastards. targetting random IP's. rotten bastards.
the music industry hasn't yet realized that society is collapsing in on them and they will eventually have to change somehow. - nos235, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kids are taught how to access the Internet at School nowadays - when I went to school we weren't - we were Lucky to get 10 minutes of Lemonade Stand on the Apple IIe. So for many people my age, our kids have have far more knowledge about accessing the Internet. You can't expect the parents to know - that's like making it a requirement that every parent learn to use the Internet (and a PC) before their kids are allowed access to one. Patently Absurd.
- alterself, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The site database appears to be down."
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Great write up and too bad I missed the interview on TV... anyways, it's also a shame that the Sheep-led-people of the US will continue to buy iTUNES and CDs supporting the RIAA. Hold out a year, hell download some from allofmp3.ru whatever for a year, get their attention.. but it will *NEVER* happen.
- djhifisi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fascinating article, good digg.
- shiftless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The RIAA will never see another dollar from me. Their music and artists have been PATHETIC for over a decade. I don't listen to a damn thing they produce, not when thousands of people are providing higher quality music online for FREE.
- Metal_Hurlant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0in response to fredgarvin1138, I encourage you to read a very enlightening article by Courtney Love ( http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/print.html )
She makes a pretty compelling case that the record industry, as it stands, should not exist.
The article is five years old, and getting more timely by the day. - Lacero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0RIAA will likely die eventually, but they're going to put up one hell of a fight. Expect more casualties in the years ahead. LOL.
- crapiolio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0RIAA will keep fighting a losing battle till the end of the world.
- hiredgun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0is the RIAA currently targeting bittorrent?
- Pogue_Mahone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sure
- theWaterboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am giving this a digg just with the hopes that the RIAA can see my little comment, which is:
'Hey RIAA, prosecuting people for downloading music is quasi-understandable, but I disagree with it (flips RIAA the bird). However, prosecuting and preventing fans from posting lyrics for free, and preventing amateur tablature sites for fans??? RIAA, you are so stupid-- I will never buy another CD... that's right! You feel the pressure, don't ya RIAA? That's like $16 dollars you will loose in the upcoming year"
*If only everyone would limit their purchases of music to when you have to give someone a CD for a gift (ex. birthday's, Christmas, Qwanzaa etc.)-- because let's face it... giving someone a burned CD for Christmas etc. is just cheezy.
Anyways, just think how much effect THAT would have!
--- long live the P2P community :) -
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