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- DjArcadian, on 04/14/2008, -11/+120Gallagher has a long history of liking to hear himself talk.
- darkchild82, on 04/14/2008, -20/+113Its true, modern day hip-hop sucks. Naughty By Nature fo' life!
- loki440, on 04/14/2008, -11/+85Today's hip hop sucks because the music is so ***** formulaic. I feel like I've heard the same song for the last fifteen years. Here's the formula to 80% of all hip-hop:
1. Claim to be the world's best MC. Your claim should include boasts of sexual prowess or physical toughness(preferably both).
2. State that all other MCs are either substandard or homosexual. Threatening violence is ok.
3. Reference your high net worth.
4. Describe in detail the material goods your high net worth affords you. For example, the size of your car's rims.
5. Include at least one reference to a nightclub. Make sure it contains the words "Cristal" and "VIP".
6. Don't forget the hoes. You can't spell "hip-hop" without "ho" know what I'm sayin'?
7. Describe how hoes are impressed with either: a) the size of your financial estate, b) the size of your *****, or c) both.
8. Boast bout how your large (*****/financial estate/both) enabled you to have sexual relations with the hoes and how you sent them packing.
9. Reiterate your claim as being the world's best MC.
10. Mention what year it is and then give a shoutout to your producer. - mdavis, on 04/14/2008, -58/+128Sorry, but Oasis is better than any "hip hop" any day.
- amigiac, on 04/14/2008, -2/+70Does anyone remember 50cent at Reading? Rock festivals are Rock festivals, Glasto isn't a Rock festival but the Pyramid headliner is another matter. Bad things happen when inappropriate acts are booked... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL1dvdGoOvk
- fatoprah, on 04/14/2008, -7/+61Unfortunately, Gallagher's right on. I think the kids that really like Jay-Z and the like, grew up with this below average music and are more fascinated by the image and less about the quality of the product. 4 or 5 people learning how to play instruments and then coming together to create a unique sound is something they don't even understand. Just different guys with a microphone running around speaking into a microphone.
- fandyboy, on 04/14/2008, -6/+53Haha, good old Noel, I think he meant hip-hop acts should not be headlining, he's right. Although to be fair it says more about the popularity of Jay-Z than hip-hop. Seriously though, who is passionate enough about Jay-Z to stand in the pouring rain. Obviously not enough to sell Glasto out. Eavis is like the Jools Hollanbd of festival organizers.
- jansie, on 04/14/2008, -39/+83yeah man hippety hop sucks ;)
- lektroluv, on 04/14/2008, -13/+56The music industry blames piracy for slow music sales.. I blame people like Jay-z and their ***** music. No wonder no one buys their music or goes to their concerts.
This whole ting is just a big "the people have spoken". - whiteknight128, on 04/14/2008, -3/+39i totally agree with him, rap is not for Glastonbury
- inactive, on 04/14/2008, -12/+43Hip-Hop is a theme park now like Heavy Metal is.
D12, for example, put out an album where on just about every track they talked about what they would do all gangsta style if someone messed with them.
Then Proof got killed, Eminem got fat, and D12 left Detroit to hide under a rock in LA.
I know Eminem doesn't speak for all in regards to Hip-Hop, but its become 90% fantasy 10% reality - like Hair Bands of the 80's. - ha1f, on 04/14/2008, -4/+34I love hip hop, but I agree with him completely. Why change traditions for the flavor of the week? Hip hop is appreciated as it's own medium and is meant for certain venues. This is/was not one of them.
- wolfenraider, on 04/14/2008, -11/+41a spot-on point, maybe what they need are more Beatles cover-bands...
- bicyclethief, on 04/14/2008, -24/+53Anybody from a band bigger than the Beatles ought to be listened to.
- Couchy, on 04/14/2008, -2/+30Old-school hiphop is gold. But to all these people digging up comments about "Modern day" hip hop are absolutely WRONG. He should have said "mainstream hiphop" not modern.
Unicronband nailed it:
"Almost all mainstream music is complete *****. If the rap they play on the radio is your frame of reference for judging an entire genre of music, you opinion is meaningless."
There is so much music noone knows about simply because they dont see it on tv or hear it on the radio. Digg me down for listening to real music if you want. - bicyclethief, on 04/14/2008, -1/+26says the user named momsshizzle
- BackhandBandit, on 04/14/2008, -2/+26Even though I kind of agree with him, I can't look at that photo without seeing the words "You kids and your music..." in a speech bubble above him.
- Aitese, on 04/14/2008, -1/+22Your mistake is to take the crap on MTV and assume that MUST be the whole culture. I could do that with rock...but I'm more enlightened than that.
- unicronband, on 04/14/2008, -3/+23Way to generalize asshat. Have you listened to ANYTHING Outkast has put out in the last decade? I'd say they are more innovative than 90% of "rock" musicians out there. See also The Roots, Anti-Pop Consortium, Gnarles Barkley, Guru Jazzmataz, Madlib, Danger Mouse...
Almost all mainstream music is complete *****. If the rap they play on the radio is your frame of reference for judging an entire genre of music, you opinion is meaningless. - Zzone, on 04/14/2008, -6/+24Yeah, Rap is music, hip hop is culture, Right?
eat me. - Senturion, on 04/14/2008, -5/+23The Beastie Boys played Glastonbury in 1994, there is definitely a tradition of hip-hop, house and electronica at Glastonbury.
- noots, on 04/14/2008, -3/+20i'm suprised JZ is performing at Glastonbury. It seems he will suffer the same fate.
for the record, there is mostly piss in those bottles. - SnapETom, on 04/14/2008, -11/+27Good. Someone has to say it.
- mdavis, on 04/14/2008, -12/+28To people who don't give a crap about it-like me-it's the same thing.
- fandyboy, on 04/14/2008, -0/+14And vinyl records, the "instrument" of choice for hip-hop is not 20th century?
- leerayIG88, on 04/14/2008, -1/+14*Smashes watermelons with a hammer*
Woooo! - bicyclethief, on 04/14/2008, -1/+14I was being sarcastic but I guess a lot of people really dislike hip hop.
- inactive, on 04/14/2008, -4/+17If you think modern hip-hop sucks, you're not looking NEARLY hard enough.
- doctechnical, on 04/14/2008, -3/+16It's where King Arthur is going to make his big comeback, gangsta style.
- jerrycan, on 04/14/2008, -0/+13USA Translation.....Make over $60,000 USD and drive......a Ford Contour? DAMN YOU BABELFISH!
- Shakermaker, on 04/14/2008, -1/+14There is a HUGE difference between the Beasties and Jay-Z, though.
- jessestorm, on 04/14/2008, -7/+20I love how everyone in this thread thinks hip-hop/rap = Nelly and 50 Cent
- gnews, on 04/14/2008, -0/+12Same thing happened in Hyde Park at the Chili Peppers concert when the "Chicks on Speed" opened for them.
- darny, on 04/14/2008, -12/+24He's right, F hip-hop. It's freakin' karaoke (especially the rights of single name acts like Jay-Z, Busta, and guys like the Beasties) and shouldn't be placed in the same setting as actual music. I mean...how does someone speaking over turntables and waving their hands belong in a music festival? Especially if that festival has always been in the spirit of rock and people who play actual instruments?
Noel Gallagher is your classic pompous a-hole and probably could have more tact, but he's right. - inactive, on 04/14/2008, -0/+12So Classical music isn't music because it doesn't have somebody singing? Most hip hop contains real instruments played by real musicians. The fact that somebody is rapping over the music doesn't cancel out the fact that it's MUSIC. Don't be ignorant.
- mrjit, on 04/14/2008, -6/+18Hip hop !=Rap.
- csspeedbump, on 04/14/2008, -2/+14Guitar Music? How about The Roots?
- unicronband, on 04/14/2008, -4/+15I think he's referring to the fact that Oasis are essentially just Beatles poseurs. Very bitchy, whiny, self-praising Beatles poseurs at that.
- BN2L, on 04/14/2008, -4/+15Jay-Z is worth over $150 million and pretty much every album he's released has been a critical and commercial success not to mention numerous sell out tours. Where do you get your information from?
- LostRiot, on 04/14/2008, -1/+12However you're forgetting that the people in the crowd at glastonbury aren't complete pricks,if they don't want to see an act, they go else where, (with about 75 stages there is a lot of 'elsewhere'). At reading there are about 4 proper stages so people are more likely to go just to be dicks, also, they are mostly angry emo kids.
also, 50 cent is much more of a ***** than jay-z - pegothejerk, on 04/14/2008, -6/+17People might have been saying the same thing about rock, but rock started in the late 40s and was popular by the late 50s/early 60s. Hip Hop started in the 70s (latinos and afro-americans). It's hardly new. They are simply two different forms of modern music appreciated by many different types of people, sometimes overlapping in tastes, sometimes not. While his statements were very blanketed, he has a point - some fests are rock oriented and would push away a good deal of their customer base. Some are hip hop/r&b/rap oriented and would do they same to their customers if they brought in indie rock. That being said, there is room for fests with multi-cultural experiences, and those are the shows I buy tickets to.
- synthpop, on 04/14/2008, -2/+12here's the thing, both Oasis and Jay-Z are way past their prime.
if you had those 2 on the bill circa late 90s then you'd have proper concert. - inactive, on 04/14/2008, -5/+15Unlike your Jay-Z album-buying demographic, Glastonbury attendees are, by and large, not 13-year old morons.
- EpicSelekta, on 04/14/2008, -2/+12There's plenty of rapless hip hop, and there is lots of rapping in genres other than hiphop. Drum n bass, for instance, features gratuitous amounts of rapping. Rap and hiphop are associated, but distinct from each other.
- inactive, on 04/14/2008, -3/+13out of all the rap groups you brought up D12?
you have to be from detroit. cause they suck ass. - jonmlm, on 04/14/2008, -2/+12modern day? like as opposed to that 19th century hip hop?
- mdinire, on 04/14/2008, -1/+11That is a certain genre of rap, it is like when avid rap fans say "Metal is just a bunch of dudes with long hair screaming" when there are a lot of very skillful musicians and singers in the metal genre.
Gotta love stereotyping - checkacheck, on 04/14/2008, -13/+23Noel saying what is and isn't right for Glastonbury? I saw Oasis headlining in 2004 and it was like they didn't even want to be there. Kind of devalues his opinions on this one :-(
- ddizzle, on 04/14/2008, -27/+37eh....hip hop/rap really does suck. it's fun at parties and such, but not music to be taken seriously
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