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- canewediggit, on 10/10/2007, -17/+559and it's the best thing to happen to hip-hop in a decade. this will bring about the return of real hip-hop where lyrical content matters. common just sold more records than he ever has in his first week, rock the bells is packing them in with a roster of non-gangsta artists, and the underground scene is vibrant. the sales numbers may not get back to the point they have been, but the quality will be better.
- HBNDonut, on 10/10/2007, -17/+263"Hiphop" these days is a bunch of people bragging about how much money they have, how many girls they get or some stupid new phrase like, "Actin real nice in da club"
I used to like Hiphop back when artists like 2Pac, Nas and Wu-Tang were around and not spouting off about money and bling all the time.
All these new artists are murdering it. Its not hiphop any more... its POP music! - g30ph, on 10/10/2007, -7/+238People are losing interest in songs about car rims? You're kidding right?
- DeathJux, on 10/10/2007, -7/+207READ A BOOK, READ A BOOK, READ A *****' BOOK!
- devjunkie, on 10/10/2007, -7/+177Well, look on the bright side - while Gangsta Rap may be declining, there is a surge in Crunk, which is *damn* easy to make.
You just take any nonsensical command and repeat it:
Pop your ribs, now pop your limbs
Pop your ribs, now pop your limbs
Pop your ribs, now pop your limbs
Sizzle up the grill and make beef stew
Sizzle up the grill and make beef stew
Sizzle up the grill and make beef stew
etc...
Make the right beat, the right catchy phrase, and you'll be rich with girls popping their bootay to your music in clubs across the entire country. - alpha2omega, on 10/10/2007, -26/+187Its no surprise, to me. When you think of rap/hip hop - you think of gangsta rap. So much so that most people don't even realize that that 'gangsta' rap is a genre. Ignorant people see rap and gangsta rap as the same thing when in fact that couldn't be further from the truth. Its a shame that besides Common (and a few others) the only rappers people know about are the gangsta rappers.
That being said:
Wu Tang Clain ain't nuthin to ***** wit. - bigteebo, on 10/10/2007, -24/+176What gets me, is HOW can you start rapping by spouting off bragging of women/money/jewelery and threatening to kill any black people who threaten you? Were you born with said wealth?
Hip hop culture needs to die, plain and simple. To be blunt, it has set black culture back 2 decades, and reinforces stereotypes. - Bartboy919, on 10/10/2007, -11/+139We need more rap songs that sound like the Fresh Prince Theme.
- FearFactory, on 10/10/2007, -4/+82What up dogs? No more superfly gangsta east vs west coast shizzle pimping the dope ***** with ghetto redneck feel from the suburbs while driving your '86 Honda with da fart pipe and park bench on da trunk impressin all the 14 year old girls at da mall G?
- gl77, on 03/31/2008, -14/+87/ thinks to himself "oooh now's my big chance to tell the whole digg community about (insert 10 obscure underground rap artists here). since i listen to people that you never heard of, i'm cool and everyone else will think so too"
- DaveAtDigital, on 10/10/2007, -1/+72i wouldn't underestimate the stupidity of white suburban gangsters
- rkdotan, on 06/06/2008, -3/+72'this is why i'm hot'
no need for explanation. thats "hip hop" today. - UltraMegaFilms, on 10/10/2007, -10/+71It is about time. Rap has been in a cluster-***** downward spiral for a while. Later fitty.
- devjunkie, on 10/10/2007, -3/+59RAISE YO KIDS
RAISE YO KIDS
RAISE YO GOTDAMN KIDS! - UGM2099, on 10/10/2007, -1/+48Contemporary mainstream hip hop has been turned in to 3.5 minute long ring tones. Important hip hop still exists.. just not really on TV or the radio, for the most part.
- fezzen, on 10/10/2007, -9/+55Definately time for disco to make a comeback.
- NiteMayr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+46Despite the snark, I think we need more rappers like the Fresh Prince (Circa 1985-1992) who care as much about what they are saying as they do about how they "look" . It certainly didn't hurt his sales back then.
People may dislike Will Smith for his white bread lyrics and squeaky clean image, but he and Jazzy Jeff (among others) created accessible kid friendly rap with some creative and entertaining lyrics, all without demeaning anyone (well, maybe Will Smith was demeaned in the eyes of REAL hip-hop fans) - platypibri, on 10/10/2007, -5/+49Wow. That's the brutal truth right there.
- Wargalas, on 10/10/2007, -46/+90Now only if rap would go away, I could live in peace.
- gotterdammerung, on 10/10/2007, -1/+42Is it still 'underground' when they play clear channel events...?
- gotterdammerung, on 10/10/2007, -8/+48"cash rules everything around me, CREAM
get the money... dolla dolla bill y'alllllll"
-Wu-Tang - DeathJux, on 10/10/2007, -11/+50Definitive Jux and Rhymesayers 4 lyfe. Mainstream rap/hip-hop is generally *****, substituting catchy beats for anything of substance.
- hornfinger, on 10/10/2007, -6/+44Yeah, it would be good to see a return to clever lyricism. I, for one, am getting tired about hearing how to upholster and modify cars and what new jewellery options are available for men.
- joegibes, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37Real gangstas have vines on their curtains.
- rsmithrun, on 10/10/2007, -14/+49[Insert hip-hop bashing comment from rocker here]
- MagicXB, on 10/10/2007, -4/+38It's about time all the 50 Cent rappers of the world just die.
I didn't give a damn that you were shot 9 times the first time I heard it...what makes you think I care now? - ORBAT, on 10/10/2007, -7/+40Can't the sales collapse faster? Good riddance.
- SergeiGolos, on 10/10/2007, -4/+36So any one still remember Del tha Funky Homosapien, and some nerdcore is worth while like Optimus Rhyme
- gorilla, on 10/10/2007, -3/+34Shaolin shadowboxing, and the Wu-Tang sword style
If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be dangerous! - lookadeez, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32those songs just sell ringtones for a week, they never sell records
- cybermort, on 10/10/2007, -6/+36maybe because all the white kids became emo whiny bitches. In the end no subculture is safe from the onslaught of mainstream america.... it will absorb, mass produce and whore out any subculture until only a meaningless fad remains.
- chrismgtis, on 10/10/2007, -16/+46"And the rappers themselves exhibited an entrepreneurial bent unlike that of musicians before them."
We are still calling rappers musicians? Oh boy. They aren't musicians in any sense. They aren't even singers. Hell, most of them can't even rhyme. Instead they simply go on stage, "talk" about "hos" and "bitches", while playing beats they hired someone else to create. Face it. They are leeches who make too much money off of people who think it's cool to blast "music" talking about ways to be a loser. - sofaKing812, on 10/10/2007, -5/+34Agreed, but I think that you can still have the "gangsta" image and deliver lyrically. B.I.G. and Nas (Illmatic) are solid proof of that.
- xposiactionx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32dugg for knowing Immortal Tech. You sir, are a good human being.
- VeryBoredNow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29Simply put, they over-saturated the market
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+30"cause if you go platinum, its got nothin to do with luck,
it just means a million people are stupid as *****" - bruinexmo, on 10/10/2007, -19/+45There is still a lot of great hip-hip being made, but it's all underground. Check out these artists:
Blackalicious
MF Doom
Immortal Technique
Jedi Mind Tricks
2 Mex
Aztlan Underground
Talib Kweli
Mos Def - n33b, on 10/10/2007, -2/+28TIGER STYLE!
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -11/+37If only. 99% of rap and hip hop is pure *****. Have some random kid from the projects write down a bunch of stupid ***** that almost rhymes then give him a drum machine and you've got a new artist. And it's always the same ***** over and over again. When I'm listening to music, I really don't give a ***** about how great the artist thinks he is. Why do rap and hip hip artists have to brag themselves up? It's just ***** stupid *****. Once in a while I run across some that I like, but it's rare.
- fezzen, on 10/10/2007, -4/+29Music seems to be the only major artform that is evolving backwards.
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -2/+27Exactly. Mainstream may be collapsing, but underground is still thriving. To the listener with distinguished tastes there's a wealth of amazing hip hop out there. Just check out some of the latest from Stones Throw records for an example ( this one comes with my personal recommendation: http://www.stonesthrow.com/nowagain/ )
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24Well granted it's not Nickelback or Blink 182, but hey everyone has to start building their tastes somewhere right?
Keep your ear out of the gloryhole and you'll hear hip-hop with class - stuff that draws its influence from classic jazz and wild 70's style funk. Koushik's 'Be With' paints vibrant 60's psych with a hip-hop brush, Madlib's recent Beat Konducta release fuses hip-hop and sultry indian grooves for a bumping set that won't quit, and his older release 'Shades of Blue' is made entirely of samples from the Blue Note catalog, and is basically sex in auditory form (I figure I should probably break this down for you at this point, based on your reply to my comment - Blue Note is a very famous Jazz label. You probably won't see any of it on MTV, but it's pretty much the catalog of source beats for the 20th century). Oh No just came out with 'Dr. No's Oxperiment', a hip-hop-esque album made entirely of samples from Mediterranean psych music. These are all artists who have more talent and taste in the tips of their fingers than was cumulatively showcased on MTV over the course of the 20th century.
But hey, feel free to dismiss every one of them because they're not boy-punk or *****-rock. Your loss. - GoatBn, on 10/10/2007, -13/+34well congrats, you are the person alpha was refering to.
Stop being so simple. If you want to judge hip-hop, go listen to De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Atmosphere etc before you generalize the entire artform. - alanwarp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19Agreed, the only downside is eight years later you'll get the Hip-Hop equivalent of Creed...AHHHH!
- TheMidnight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19My rims never spin, to the contrary. You'll find that they're quite stationary.
- theholycow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19There was much rejoicing, until we read "their".
- bolomkxxviii, on 10/10/2007, -16/+34Please just bury rap/hip hop right next to disco.
- pp51doodoo, on 10/10/2007, -6/+24Hip Hop is still alive and well and as good as ever, albeit harder to find. Just ask Talib Kweli or any number of the others mentioned in the comments above. Mainstream Hip Hop is today's Hair Metal and we need a new Kurt Cobain to come along and kill it off.
- arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18Exactly. Moreover, the thing that has always bothered me is that hip hop/rap or music in general has never been the focus of the "artists". You see most of these rappers who were popular 5-10 years ago are now record co execs, actors, celebrities of some sort. They didn't get into music for their passion for art or their love of music: it's was only a tool. They used it as a tool to get rich and to move up the ladder. They could care less about music or what it means or any of that. All they want to do is be sensational to get attention so people will buy their records so they can make more money then move on to making movies or something else.
I can have a lot of respect for someone who is a real artists, a real musician who can spin lyrics and create beats and weave them together to create something great and especially when that person has a passion for doing so. But that's not what hiphop is. Maybe in the very beginning, but not now, nor has it been for a very very long time. I'm sick of bands and artists being brands. - Sandurz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Oh, no genre (especially metal) is safe from ***** bandwagon performers who haven't come up with something original in their whole life.
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