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- bignate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30With the RAGING SUCCESS of Google video they STILL have time to put up a music store?
- flamingmb, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19google: a jack of all trades, a master of one.
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Why not? This is an excellent business opportunity for Google, especially if this Apple v. Apple Corps thing keeps going.
Plus, it'll give them another great reason to put Google Payments to good use! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11If this falls through i think Google is in an interesting position. Right now labels earn somthing like 79 cents per song (maybe more), google could offer the full 99 cents, and run google ads through the service. No reason for labels to stick with itunes then. Using the recently launched "related links" service, they could better promote "related" music, and even bring those ads to websites. Same goes for regular google searches and even TV. Google is definelty in a position to bring music to more customers. DRM and quality will remain an issue only for audiophiles.
- hriwo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11If its anything like google video apple has nothing to worry about.
- xboxing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The big advantage iTMS has is the app itself, it works and works very well. Web based stores don't work as well.
- aplusplus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Yeah, the major problem with Google Video is the design aspect of it. I realize that for web searching and FREE features, a very simple layout could be a key thing but when it actually comes to attracting customers... it's best to not look like you're coming straight out of 1996. I don't really have much hope for this service.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8and Apple = Music?
- chuckythe2651, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7People quit bitching about DRM and Apple. It's not Apple's fault. They had to incorporate DRM or they couldn't license the music from the RIAA. Apple wants to sell iPods. They don't care about selling music. If they could sell it without DRM they would.
- SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7If this turns out to be like their video service than Apple has nothing to fear.
- Lacero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5How does the user manage their music once downloaded from Google Music? The web-based method of downloading music hasn't worked for Emusic, WalMart, Connect or any number of sites.
What makes iTMS so great is that it is all integrated and seamless for the end user. Just too bad its DRM only works with iPods.
Still, I think the best way is downloading whole albums off BitTorrent ;D, previewing the music you like and actually going out to a record store to buy it. You get uncompressed, DRM free music of music you really want to keep, and you're also sticking it to the Man.
ps. why is the edit comment window in Digg so small? - drakethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7You really think the RIAA's gonna let them have DRM and Copy Protection free music on a download service? I would very much welcome that too but that seems like nothing short of a dream. In the real world if Google makes a download service it will probably use Microsoft DRM.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Apple equals digital lifestyle. That's their core focus and competency. Google is branching out into so many areas and that's why they're not great at any one thing. When google focuses on search, they excel. When google branches out, they fumble. That's why I believe their stock is way overvalued. Apple is great at designing digital lifestyle products - iLife, iPod, Mac, iTunes, iTunes store, etc. It's all related. It's part of a larger plan. Apple is the only large, well-known company that has been firing on all cylinders year after year because they stick to their core strategy --- digital lifestyle.
- mhanley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Let's just hope it looks better than Google Video
- DaMacGamer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i pray to god that it doesn't look as horrible as google video :x. Google really needs to hire some graphic designers. Besides this will probably be just like google talk where only the hard core nerds google fan boys and will use it.
- diggAddict, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I beleive that their DRM will be OPTIONAL as some independent bands may want to OPT OUT of DRM which is what would be cool if Google did this.
I know it would probably be DRM'd but in a way that OTHER players could play it - eg Creative Zen's for example. - Oakes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Right, there are hundreds of other players and they're all doing poorly. Haven't you learned anything? Without the hardware/software vertical integration found in iPod/iTunes, they might as well not bother.
And what do you mean "pay for 'pretty pretty'"? The iPod is no more expensive, and sometimes less expensive, than competitors of similar quality. Of course, that's unless you mean "high quality" as in "lots and lots of extra features," in which case you would be mistaken. - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You should NEVER put your life's savings in one place. Any amateur investor could tell you that you put many eggs in many baskets to subvert risk.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If the music won't play on an iPod, the service will fail, period.
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Apple sucks, I hope Google kicks their ass, and I hope Samsung and Sony destroy the iPod market. Apple deserves it for their restrictive lock-in *****."
You do realize that Sony originally locked down their music players even worse than the iPod. Their mini-disc players at the begininning didn't even allow you to put mp3s on them. You had to use Sony software and Sony drm files on the Sony mini disc players. They only changed it when nobody bought them. - FullMetalMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can't predict what Google or any other company is going to do with 100% accuracy.
Their is a possibility this is true and then there is the possibility that it isn't. - applejackson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I will never use it, unless its cheaper and it wont be
- Aslan72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think if they decide to field a service that has variable pricing it will go over just like google video....a lead balloon.
They totally need to undercut itunes in price and offer better quality music; it simply is the *only* way they will beat itunes. *Bleh* to the people who gripe about the DRM; iTMS is simply too powerful to beat unless you enforce into your strategy that you will offer better qulality music cheaper. You can complain and gripe about DRM until you're blue in the face... - DaMoB, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6It will fails, this is not Google business. Google = search, that is all.
- MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Please...please please please let there be a linux version. The biggest problem I had when migrating to linux was not being able to play any of the hundreds of songs I purchased from iTunes with any media players.
- arnaudh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4geekee, you're talking out of your ass again. DRM is NOT Apple's excuse for consumer lock-in, otherwise they would do the same stupid crap Sony pulled up until a year and a half ago, when none of their digital players would play MP3s. You had to rip your CDs and reencode your MP3s into Sony's ATRAC-3 format in order to transfer them onto their players.
At least Apple integrated MP3 support from the start into iPods from the beginning, unlike Sony. - sahaskatta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4people might use this if it doesnt end up looking as bad as google video does.
- giggins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I hope it isn't like Google video.
- diggAddict, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Yes lets have a decent competitor to the Apple Itune monopoly, and I bet Google wont restrict their *purchased* downloadable music to just Ipuds - well I hope they dont!
Go Google! - paulypopex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2if you use firefox get the "resize textarea" extension
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=firefox+extension+resize+textarea - arnaudh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hey geekee, you do know you you can burn your iTunes purchased songs onto audio CDs and play them on a CD player, or even rip them back with SonicStage or whatever crappy Microsoft player you use, right?
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Google doesn't use web interfaces for everything. They have Picasa, Google Earth, Google Desktop, etc.
And the edit comment window is so small because the Digg devs love to aggravate people! - hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The video store was a pathetic attempt. It looks like a fugly site made by amateur coders.
- NiLeS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4It works *great* for me - Win XP, 256 MB Ram
- diehard2k5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well they also had a video store to rival Apple's iTunes Music Store, and you see how well that turned out. :)
- bdbr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If it has big-label music, it will have DRM. If it has DRM, it won't work with iPods (because Apple shares their DRM with no one). 80% or more of the players are iPods...so what are the odds of success here? Very, very small.
Just because they're talking to music people doesn't mean they're opening a store. - kenhigginson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Google jumped the shark a long time ago... too little, too late.
- arnaudh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The title of this entry is misleading. This is all speculation on the part of some analysts for now. Google sits down with representatives of many different fields all the time to see what's going on. Just because they're inviting a bunch of music execs for brunch doesn't mean they're launching a music service.
- danr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I prefer the opposite. I find stores like emusic much easier to use, and much faster than itunes. Plus, you can listen to clips in any player you want, such as winamp, instead of having to preview everything in window. This allows you to listen to one preview clip while navigating for others. itunes cuts off previews as soon as you navigate away.
- bjtitus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Didn't they say they weren't doing this (I'm not trying to bring the mood down or anything)
- turbopro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3and how long will this be in beta?
lolz - clydefrog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Google is forcing too many new aps and ideas out, they need to refine the stuff they already have.
- gookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And slap it up with another ***** interface?
Move on. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oakes...show me a competitor that costs MORE than the iPod for the same features.
- tokachu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2So Google's about to enter the online music industry - one that's already crowded by literally dozens of people claiming to have the next "iPod killer" (they never do) or who try to promote a monthly payment plan (they never work). This has got to be the least creative business move since New Coke.
Yet another reason why to not invest in Google. You know, besides the lack of steady revenue and a deceptive, ridiculously inflated stock price. - TibarNapies, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah....good luck with that one google. Should have all the success of Crystal Pepsi.
- Chupatumama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1>i pray to god that it doesn't look as horrible as google video
I think that's the first reaction for a lot of people.
They MUST have gotten some feedback from that fiasco but then again, the first thing we all thought then was "How hard is it for them to hire designers?"
If you get past their creepy info-crawling policies, they give computers users a lot of great free software (hell, I remember they even helped my Yahoo account where I was always going over my 6meg limit before they blew the roof of that mutha!) but most of their stuff is somehwere between bland and boring with occasional gusts of fugly.
Then again, I cant believe that Digg used a designer for this site.
Those header-back.png and string-second.png really are beauties.
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Has Google run out of ideas? It seems more and more like they are trying to thow whatever they can at the wall and see what sticks. I think they have lost focus.
- amalik49, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@spyyder:
Uhhh yeah Apple does = Music right now. That's what resurrected the company over the past few years and has allowed it to get its original businesses back on track now. - Progranism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Maybe they'll do something like Pandora. They've got the search technology to do it, maybe. I mean, searching music isn't like searching webpages, but some of the underlying concepts are the same anyway. If their system are designer properly it's just a matter of plugging in a new comparison algorithm and they're set.
In fact, this makes some sense, because by doing this they can collect more user data, which has been one of their goals for awhile now. Google Desktop and Google Toolbar were created for that purpose. -
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