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- norman619, on 10/11/2007, -0/+66Sounds like EMI is having one of those "No *****" moments. Now if we can only get the rest of their industries to follow.
- MercedRocks, on 10/11/2007, -0/+65I hope the RIAA is listening to this.
- ElFredo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+62I feel a great disturbance in the RIAA, as if millions of lawyers cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced…
- skinjester, on 10/11/2007, -1/+41bizarre how DRM, or rather the absence of it is turning into a marketing feature.
- awesomeface, on 10/11/2007, -4/+35@diggerPhelps
I use linux - and itunes is a resource hog on my windows machine. That's why I'd like another vendor. And btw, more competition is good for everyone. - jasz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Damn straight... I already bought 4 DRM-Free albums from the ITMS... I would've never purchased anything off of their store with DRM..
They just gone one more happy customer :) - adml_shake, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19The only thing the RIAA hears is the sound of money being sucked out of their banking accounts. Which are actually just rats in the duct work, but they can't tell the difference.
- Zuggy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12@ninjab3ar
It's comments like that have taken us this long to get to DRM-Free legal downloads.
There are those of us that like supporting the artists. Concerts and other paraphernalia is also a good way to support artists but in the end the labels look at music sold not concert attendance and t-shirt sales. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14looks like the record labels selling music online is akin to a teenage girl's experience with sex.
at first they didn't want anything to do with it, then they would only do it with restrictions, soon they'll realise it's not that painfull after the first time and maybe the end result will be a great big love in. - norman619, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19I would like to be able to buy from someone other then iTunes. I'm not too happy with them. Give me more vendor options please!
- seether166, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13@DIGGerPhelpsND
Why would you NOT want more options? I think options are a good thing, even without being an Apple-hater. Frankly, the only people I could see not wanting more options would be Apple fanboys who think no one could ever improve on what Apple has done. Does the glove fit? - aeiou, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Read the article! They are currently in negotiations with amazon as well as other companies.
- chrisgeleven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Wonder when the other labels (or at least the indie labels) will follow.
I know that for now on, if an album is available DRM free on iTunes, there is a very good chance I will buy it on there. No gas to worry about, no lines at BestBuy, and no need to store a physical copy. After all, if I am going to just rip the CD and store it forever, why not skip that step? - overbyte, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7it's about time that the record labels caught up with the rest of us
- TheTankengine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9That doesn't make any sense. If it wasn't selling well, why would they say that it was?
It is selling well, so they are going to say it is. What is your point? - dakkon2399, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10@DIGGerPhelpsND
Oh, someone said something negative about an apple product, quick they must be an apple hater. Wait, I see how this works, ... you made a quick judgment about someone based on one statement, so you must be just another idiot. See, it really is easy to label someone with no thought.
I seriously wonder about some fanatical brand followers. Yeah that's right, dig me down all you apple fan boys. Really though, a diverse market is a healthy market, and fanatical devotion to one product (even if it's a good one) doesn't help anyone. I personally haven't used ITunes so I have no feelings either way about that particular product. - Zuggy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I agree a better selection would be nice, but I think that, with continued support, more music will become available from EMI and other labels.
- straxus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yep. And speaking of "no *****" moments, where are all of our little astroturfing friends who insisted DRM-free music would flop? I very distinctly remember being told that all people who complained about DRM were really interested in was free music, and that we'd all continue to pirate even after we got what we asked for. I looked all over this page, and I can't seem to find any of them... Hopefully, at least one of them will read this thread and see this: Nyah Nyah, told you so!
- WiseWeasel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Who doesn't own all of Pink Floyd by now?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Get a room.
- GGzah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I'm actually kind of surprised - not because I don't like non-DRM music, but because the selection of music that was available as non DRM was not all that great. I ended up buying a couple songs off I-Tunes with non-DRM, but it was hard to find anything there that I liked!
- fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You don't like Pink Floyd? Is that possible?
- acebrickman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4RIIIIGHT cuz AAC is an Apple format.
Get a f'in grip. Watermarked audio/video files are teh Now. The companies finally caught up and the free-love Napster/P2P days of 2002-3 are over. Live with it, grow up a bit, and vote with your dollars for the firm that gives you what you want... legally. The little frog always teases me when iTMS lets me down. I hate supporting big music, but I hate paying for a poor selection more. iTMS is growing. Keep fueling the fire - for all of us - ravenpen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I went to buy “Sound of Silver” by LCD Soundsystem off iTunes the other day and a notice came up telling me that it was available as an iTunes Plus selection. Since the album price was exactly the same as the regular version I figured “what the hell”, not really expecting there to be much of a noticeable difference.
I was pretty shocked to find that the sound quality was a good deal better on everything from my computer, to my car and home stereos. Until now I was one of those people who thought that higher bit rates really didn’t matter much for anyone without an acute sense of hearing, my own is a bit shoddy, but I must say that you really can tell the difference. - codmate, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Becuase the music is compressed with a lossy codec.
- pdangelo22, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4me too! i don't want to even install bloody iTunes on my pc. PLEASE PLEASE let amazon's store give us a decent alternative!!
- rarson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4"EMI says DRM-free music is selling well."
Duh. - GGzah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I like Pink Floyd, but everything of theirs that I want, I already own! I don't feel the desire to buy a second copy of it just to support non-DRM music.
- hasslinthehoff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Amazing how if you give consumers options and don't treat them like criminals they will happily buy music instead of stealing it.
- jasz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Beautifully ***** illustrated!
~Sickboy (Trainspotting)
/no pun intended. - Iconwolf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"Wonder when the other labels (or at least the indie labels) will follow."
Follow? The indie labels have been leading for quite some time with the likes of eMusic or a PayPlay. Seriously, for $200 a year (I on eMusic's old plan before they "downgraded" in November) I get 1080 tracks a year, which at an average of say 12 tracks an album is 90 full albums a year. No DRM, better bitrates than iTunes (and most other services), and most of all the artists tend to get paid better (and often still own their own copyright) unlike the major label artists who are forced to hand over their copyrights and generally make a small pitance of what they likely deserve. And I've had NO problems finding quality music (and often plenty of well known artists to boot). I see no need to support the RIAA or the major labels with my money (especially since an increasing number of artist/bands are leaving the major labels and going back to independent, non-RIAA affiliated labels) given their multitude of bad business practice, just because they finally realized "OMG, you really can make money give the customer what they want.". - chrisgeleven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Who cares if it is a lossy format? As I said, I am never listening to the lossless copy again.
- kaplanfx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The problem with a lossy format is that in 5 years when I better higher quality compressed format comes out you will need to transcode which will result in further loss of quality. If you have a lossless copy somewhere, you can re-compress with a newer lossy codec and not suffer the "copy of a copy" problem.
-kap - BlackOp, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6EMI is part of the RIAA
- jayfehr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@HitMeWithIt
Although I agree with you in theory, Apple Records is actually in the process of Re-Mastering the entire Beatles catalogue for online distribution. I heard on the radio (so no link sorry) that they even fired the guy in charge because he was taking to long.
But if you replace Beatles with Zeppelin in your post I'll agree completely. - smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1re-encoding tracks that have already been put through lossy compression is a bad idea. it greatly degrades the quality. you can just bust out a hex editor and edit out your info from the tracks, but like you said, it's always been possible to pirate CDs. captaincoconut is a just an idiot.
- smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1what does that matter? they're comparing the sales of those artists before and after removing DRM. what artists they choose doesn't matter for testing whether DRM benefits sales or not.
- codmate, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4I agree - for a start I want to buy lossless music.
I refuse to pay the same price I would for a CD for inferior quality. - GangsterCompute, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1How would one know beforehand that a track you're thinking of buying on iTunes is DRM-free or not?
- Monk22, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2doesnt it bother anyone else that when the itunes store opened they claimed they were selling you cd tracks. yet now we find that we have to pay more for non-drm "higher quality bit rate" music that still isnt full cd bit rate. anyone?
- tizz66, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Man I looooove the cake. Cakey cake cake.
/littlebritain - HitMeWithIt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Captaincoconut - If you think that is a bonus then you really ought to get better at searching mate...no one need buy the track on itunes for people to download them on p2p. These companies know that already, they aren't totally naive. Yet there are a lot of people who, with pride, prefer to BUY their music so it will still work.
I'm just making the point that every piece of music that comes out is available to download illegally so this isn't going to have some massive effect on that.
What pisses me off is this...the friggin' Beatles STILL refuse to allow their catalogue of music to be available.
Talk about a surefire way of encouraging people to pirate and distribute your music digitally and illegally...just ban it being sold digitally in all other places!!
Anyway this news won't affect me. I hate music in all it's forms. Never listen to it. Ever. - Monk22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1if it doesnt have DRM its 50c more and still not full cd quality
- captaincoconut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1why would my name be in the files if i never purchased them?
- musicer, on 01/25/2008, -0/+0http://music411.info/category/r-b/ r&b r&b
http://top-popular-music-downloads.info/category/r ... rap rap
http://vikingmusic.info/category/rap/ rap rap
http://musicaviva.info/category/rap/ rap rap
http://www-mp3sale.info/category/jungle/ jungle jungle
http://wwwmp3.info/category/lo-fi/ lo-fi lo-fi
http://dailymusic.info/category/rap/ rap rap - maczealot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Anyone who likes iTunes more than the iPod is obviously confused about the possibilities with each "device"
iTunes = Decent search, decent library, mediocre pricing and system resource hog
iPod = ubiquitous, uber-hackable, totally portable, well priced cornerstone of the post-modern music culture.
I got flash cards for you to practice with if you want me to mail you the pdf... but that would require scissors. - carlvjack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0@Gangster
Its in your itunes account profile setting under the iTunes Plus setting, you have to check the "always show iTunes plus versions". - whitesnow158, on 10/24/2007, -0/+0It's getting harder and harder to find free and legal music on the interenet. Check out this guide of websites where you can find free and legal music...
http://mp3away.com/genres-our/
http://mp3away.com/top-charts/
http://mp3away.com/letters-mp3-a/
http://mp3away.com/letters-mp3-b/
http://mp3away.com/letters-mp3-c/ - WiseWeasel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Technically true, but don't forget to re-encode them, as they embed your name and email address into the song info... There's possibly a watermark embedded in the music data as well, so even that might not be completely fool-proof... Also, this is different from Audio CDs how, exactly?
- ArmchairAthlete, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Yea, a whole single song I bought on iTunes was available without DRM. And not even the rest of the songs on the *same album*. Not other albums that as far as I could dig up were under EMI labels.
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