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- Seal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+43Option to download via bittorrent:
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3481113
(Don't be fooled by the 0 seeders/leechers... the server is not correctly keeping track of the stats.) - andywhitt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39"Free for the download!"
What? no option to download via bittorrent?? :) - rm999, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21It would be funny if everyone was pirating it (instead of it being free).
- blacklilyninja, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18I LOVE the sweater analogy. Going around stealing sweaters. What he neglected to mention was you are allowed to try the sweater on... and if the sweater is F'ugly then you DON'T buy it. It means I buy less sweaters but the clothing companies aren't out to sue me because they lost a sale. In fact the industry is forced to make nicer better quality prettier sweaters. That buttnut Graham Henderson posts on the Macrumors.com website and I have had one on one arguments with him. The fact that people don't want to buy crap did not even phase this man. The record companies are losing money (not really because they pass the losses on to everyone but their their bottom line) He along with other cria headhunters are itching to set the lawyers free. according to him, once you have sampled the music by downloading it is stolen. Once you have heard tha whole song without paying for it you might as well have stolen it. Oh and the polls that he was talking about is skewed. Everyone knows how a poll is taken. Its a Question and multiple choice format. so if the options are skewed in the poll then you can get whatever results you want out of the targeted market. I used to work at a major music retailer in Canada and really ... their issue has never been file sharing. Record companies were throwing money out the window practically in promotional product. Think of how many thousands of copies of bands cd's were handed to stores for in store play/promotional copies as well as given out to the staff. Hell, in 1992 I sent a proposal to the head of the company suggesting a BBS style music distribution method. (and no i am not going to sue anyone for selling music online and stealing my idea) They declined suggesting that the product delivery methods outlined would probably be too costly and no one would catch on to this whole internet idea.... idiots. All of them. Music is a dead culture because industry wont let it grow. The lawsuits are their denial. SOCAN is a joke.
hooray for the Artists who distance themselves from the whole riaa/cria mentality. - ScoTTeh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Time to use Tor http://tor.eff.org/.
- mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12The sweater analogy is definitely a bad one. Would it be illegal to make a *copy* of a sweater? No. And making a copy of a file does not take the original away from whoever has it.
When it's all said and done, copyright law boils down to "because we said so".... and that can change any minute. It's been changed several times just to accommodate corporations -- did you know that the earliest films of Mickey Mouse would be public domain now if the copyright laws hadn't been changed for Disney's benefit? They're constantly changing the law so that nothing enters the public domain and belongs to the the people, always allowing the corporations to keep control of it. Funny how it's *theft* to make a copy of something that would've been public domain already if they hadn't changed the copyright law, but it's perfectly legal for corporations to have the law changed and effectively steal from the people by never allowing stuff to become public domain. - Wilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13It's a pre-release. The audio was pretty up and down throughout and the music was distracting at times, but that'll be fixed for the final release.
It's a fairly decent documentary. It didn't teach me a whole lot I didn't already know, but for those not entirely in the know about piracy, CRIA, RIAA, DMCA, CMPDA, MPAA, DRM, etc it shows pretty much where people stand. I quite enjoyed the NFO credits, and anybody who donates at least $10 before May 15 will have their name appear in the final version's closing credits! - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Damn, now I can't point out the irony of pirating it if it's free.
- camtech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Google video version: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3103348719324640054&q=piracy+documentary
- poipoipoi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10is it about PIRATES (as in dicks who make money selling bootlegs, etc) or FILESHARERS (who share, with no profit motivation)? Or does it confuse the two?
- amphora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I gave him $15 because even if this 2 hour documentary isn't the bees knees I want to support truly independent media.
- LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Thanks for the torrent! Glad to see that someone has common sense out there. Honestly, I don't know why a site would waste bandwidth when the people who are most likely to want this video already know and use bittorrent daily.
- LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Looks like it'll be an interesting thing to watch. Probably something my dad and I can sit down and watch together then discuss afterwards.
Dugg. - MiloMindrbindr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8i love how they slip in the "in canada" part. Im sure it hits on some of the same points, but the laws aren't exactly the same in the US, where most of this piracy ***** is hitting the fan.
- nuclearpenguins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Yar, I be wishin' this were about the other kind of pirates.
- elementalwinds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9My ISP just block the (.torrent) file extension. The bastards!
- camtech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I want to put the first two speakers in a room together, start them on the topic of piracy, and see what happens.
- Seal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Neither. The aim is for the film to be as much in the middle-ground as possible, and let viewers make their own informed decision on the information given.
- Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, it was a really good documentary, probalby the best 'piracy' themed one. Not many people have the balls to go out and question everybody about such a hot topic
- kohan69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm gonna burn 200 copies of the film and give it to my illegals to sell in Chinatown tomorrow!
- Emerica, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Also when you try on the sweater... you generally put the whole sweater on... notjust one arm.. and go "hey the rest of this sweater must be as good"
Maybe the chest of the sweater says I love Satan, just by trying on the arm you wouldnt't know..
Does he look stupid.... YES. - Agret, on 11/11/2007, -0/+5Read the comments next time, http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3481113
- MonkeyFit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Thanks for the torrent. Now that people are starting to get it, the download is finally starting to speed up.
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The fact of its using the term "piracy" already makes it biased toward the RIAA/MPAA side.
http://audio-video.gnu.org/audio/rms-speech-mit2001.ogg
Transcript: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/copyright-and-globalization.html
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.html
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.xhtml
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/reevaluating-copyright.html - serra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Is this anti-piracy? If so, ***** all that!
/Arrr! - astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I bet the MPAA and RIAA were too cheap to pick up the tab for the doughnuts and java...
- rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Gotta love the ASCII credits
- nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I showed 0/0 when it started but now I've got 23/76 and I'm downloading at about 300k/sec.
Gotta love BitTorrent! - captaindan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It is a travesty that this comment is being dugg down.
- halipan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Seed please >__
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So is this pro or against piracy?
- DMCau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's a HTTP mirror:
http://www.filecloud.com/files/file.php?file_id=3373 - zone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't know why.. but I keep thinking of amanda's voice (from rocketboom), and that it would have been great here. :|
- coding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Did anyone else notice that John Ritter is alive and was the head of the CRIA in that documentary?
- SpikyDemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Seed Seed Seed
- Lounger540, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Piratebay hasn't been keeping stats on the web site for the last week or two for some reason.
- JohnboiWaltune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I pirate because I love to drink rum, make people walk the plank, and shout "YARRRR!" at the top of my voice.
- kirkio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'll be seeding it for awhile, but we need more seeders on the *.torrent!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The whole time that I'm watching this there is someone banging away on a keyboard for background music and it's really annoying.
- kKhan, on 10/12/2007, -14/+15Pirates are pretty sweet. But you know what would be even cooler? A documentary about people stealing music and other intellectual property over the internet.
- hundrednorth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No, it isn't simple. Suppose you're right in your assumption that file sharing = theft and there should be security measures in place to prevent such theft. What would be your proposal for an "alarm online"? This whole "security" standpoint is what brought us the DRM and rootkit tactics from record companies. According to them, you can't make your own copies (even for personal use) of the music you legally paid for and own. You can't even play your CD on a different computer. Or make a mix CD.
- krakelohm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"copy illegally; of published material"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&defl=en&q=define:pirate&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title - plasticated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Should take the music off in my opinion
- td4guy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Everybody can download torrents. If your ISP blocks .torrent file downloads, then use a proxy. If your ISP blocks torrent traffic, then use encryption in Azureus, µTorrent, or (ugh) BitComet.
- PERTU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He is talking like that because he is a French-Canadian.
- omniwired, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very interesting video, tells both sides of the history.
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OMG there is a guy that talks like jeremy of pure pwnage. All canadians in the Age range talk like that?
Take a look at the video the guy talking at 13:40. - hundrednorth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I highly recommend reading Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig. The analogy of music piracy to physical theft is highly innacurate. Making a copy of a file that you own is not the same thing as stealing a CD from a store. A CD on a store shelf is the store's property, it has a manufacturing and inventory costs attached to it, it has retail value attached to it. Stealing a CD from a store means there is one less CD to sell and the store has to recoup the loss. Making a copy of the data on your legally purchased CD and sharing the data online does not equal one less CD on the store shelf.
- vh1`, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"All canadians in the Age range talk like that?"
that's a joke, right? - ccisat1dxj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is anyone aware of the DVD pirate out there that has created a worldwide syndicate of sellers of pirated media? supposedly on FBI and Interpol watch list?
David Jemeyson - KAMI_no_kodomo, on 11/11/2007, -1/+1@td4guy:
Ther is also somting as in coperate space that IT monitors trafic if Internet geus to slow. So as long as I use some downloadmanager and put the speed low nothing happens. But once I have some thing who starts uploading the upload fils directly up (since its not mutch) and they directly figer out I use 1/3 of all the upload and they simply block my internal adres from the internet.
But I'm downloading the google version... :P -
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