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- zephc, on 11/12/2009, -1/+27Nickleback sucks
- Kungfumantis239, on 11/12/2009, -2/+22You cannot kill the Metal. Metal will NEVER die.
- eastwood24, on 11/12/2009, -7/+27OMG, this also correlates with the growth and decline of hula-hoops (Putting on tin foil hat). Something is going on here sheeple. You need to wake up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
- yocouchdigga, on 11/12/2009, -0/+18If you think Rock's dead, you need to turn off the radio.
- Asheis, on 11/12/2009, -3/+20yeah - I'm going to go out on a limb and say the quality of *mainstream* rock music is declining. Independent Artists continue to find amazingly new ways to express themselves.
- Corrina41, on 11/12/2009, -1/+17Wait a minute--but if there's still good rock music, then there must be a hidden store of oil somewhere. Just got to keep looking . . .
- TheDrinkNinja, on 11/12/2009, -2/+16I would really like it if a bunch of old people, with dated tastes and bitter attitudes, would stop insulting my generation's (frankly, phenomenal) music. Just because the Top 40 is crap doesn't mean that we've stopped producing gold.
- eadgbe, on 11/12/2009, -0/+13anyone who claims there's no musical ideas left just isn't trying hard enough. that complaint has been around for hundreds of years.
- ThreeDee912, on 11/12/2009, -0/+12This proves it! The RIAA is in bed with Big Oil!
*gets more tinfoil*
/conspiracy - yocouchdigga, on 11/12/2009, -2/+13Um, merbrian, you clearly need to learn to use reply--it's to the right, not the "add a comment" box. I know there are a lot of words here so it was probably easy for you to get confused. Better luck next time!
- yocouchdigga, on 11/12/2009, -0/+10Blame the scumbags in suits for shoving that pop-rock recycled BS down the collective's throats, not artists.
- ultraJesus, on 11/12/2009, -2/+10In the interest of proving that rock music doesn't suck, I'm creating this post as a way for people to recommend stuff. Just reply with bands you thank are cool. Try to keep flaming to a minimum. Since we are talking about rock, try to avoid folk music or more stuff like MGMT (though i do love them so)
Check out: Modest Mouse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1FFOB3aP-M - filovirus, on 11/13/2009, -1/+9Just discovered Porcupine Tree. I thought music had peaked for me. I was wrong.
- reed311, on 11/12/2009, -1/+8Rock music is fine. It just isn't the dominant mainstream music like it was. And because music doesn't sell like it used to, record companies can't afford to take chances on something unless they think it will sell. The other problem, is that there a lot more musicals snobs than there were back in the day. Now, whenever a decent rock band makes it on the radio, they are called copy cats or that they suck. Which is funny since all of the original rock acts completely ripped off the old time blues artists.
- FaithclubDotNet, on 11/12/2009, -0/+7Wait, you're telling me oil peaked in the 70s?
- fedorafandango, on 11/13/2009, -0/+7Are guitar solos really your main standard for quality musicianship? What about overall structure and song writing? I mean, there might not be any Jimmy Pages around right now, but there are still bands putting out top-quality material with rock solid musicianship.
- Dragonis, on 11/12/2009, -1/+7actually there is, you just need to look for it instead of settling for what's on the radio
- Dragonis, on 11/12/2009, -1/+6lol you replied to someone saying that there is good rock music, and you respond by saying that there's not very much and then reject his premise based on that. which wouldn't reject it, just scale it down in size.
i didn't assume you listened to anything. i said you need to actually look for it, and gave an example of one way that people are not getting to hear the good rock music.
and quantity of good rock music doesn't mean anything. even in the classic rock era, not every band was amazing. it's just the more popular bands were rock oriented so it seemed like there was a lot of them. also, this seems to be an N.A. problem cause there are many bands that are extremely popular in other areas but can't sell ***** in the US. - kicker58, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4I completely disagree with this. The problem is that back in the days of when most of the top 500 songs came from a music industry willing trying new things. Today the music industry is worried more about top 40 hits instead of trying new things. With emo and pop being the popular music today one has to wonder why has the music industry stoped trying trying new things. There is really good music out there but the only way to get it si to pirate it. Here inlies the problem is that rolling stone is now more apart of music the music industry isntead of being against the mainstream music. So the only way to get good music now a days is by illegal methods, which means good songs rolling stone will never hear.
- neutron7, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4musical ideas did not run out. record companies and radio who support new ideas ran out,
much easier to do payola with crap. - doodger, on 11/12/2009, -2/+6Altough it saddens me, the number of good music and creative band is inversely proportional to the amount of crap musical corporation publish. Music, my favorite art, is being flooded by commercial songs that get old after 5 minute.
- supersuperduper, on 11/12/2009, -0/+4The Hubbert Linearization is not a very good technique a lot of the time. It systematically underestimates the ultimately recoverable reserve. Meaning: extrapolating from a "peak production" graph to when we'll hit 0 for that resource is inaccurate.
- blindhammer, on 11/12/2009, -3/+7Oh just wait until someone makes a metal album using autotune. Then you'll weep.
- 350Zed, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4Even Neil Young is more folk than rock, but your point is definitely valid. What is "rock"? How do you define a music "genre"?
- DennisOhlson, on 11/13/2009, -1/+5Here, I am a musician, a very different one at fact. I am going to be going totally against the norm of what music is now. I have been different all my life, why not bring that to the world.. Now, i want to bring Industrial/ and avant garde together. And i am talking about good industrial 1980s 1990s stuff . I have gotten great reviews on my works thus far and I am getting tons of people wanting demos from record companies, so i think i am doing fairly well in these weird changing times. I am going to be joining a group, that is like KoRn, and have the Synth the way i like them. Weird and catchy. Mixing these 2 musics will be hard...... But i will keep trying to do it. The singing i am going to try at first with this group is opera singing/KoRn screaming. To tell the truth. Industrial is such an unloved genre. There is no Ska/industrial.. Blues/industrial Primus/industrial. House industrial Black industrial. Death industrial Post-punk industrial. I can go on. Even if this groups ***** up, i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever give up unless someone shoots me in the face for it, because that is what i love to do. And thats everything that i can do. Without music, i would not have any mind at all. I think we are on fact the eve of a music revolution, i see many avant garde bands coming up. Now not to be rude. If you want to see the stuff i do to, you go to my profile and there is a link. If not. Then thats good as well =)
I wish to you all the music lovers out there, your revolution is coming, and its coming fast.. Stick tight. Listen to music, play music. Love music, and you will listen to good music once again. I promise. Dennis. - rebrad, on 11/13/2009, -1/+5How do you know you're getting old?
You think that new Rock is not as good as the old rock.
BTW Rock died with Buddy Holly. - Rockyn, on 11/12/2009, -1/+5They do make metal albums using autotune. Its used sparingly and is usually unnoticeable, as it was meant to be used, though it is cheating in my mind.
- Hetman, on 11/12/2009, -0/+3Rock music though. I know it is hard to determine exactly what rock music is though. I usually think of things like Jimi, zepplin, neil young etc. When I think of rock music. However a lot of other people have a different diffention so that is hard to define in of itself.
- roxgod666, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4I'm pretty sure pop is crushing rap as well on the charts...
- Stephiems, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4I knew I would get comments like this.
@fedorafandano No, guitar solos are not the main standard, but they are one thing that is majorly lacking today. It is pretty difficult to get into a complete discussion about the range of issues wrong with rock music today. I was merely making a point. Overall structure and song writing in ROCK music today is even worse then the guitar solos. Really, musicianship as a whole has massively decreased, and if you are a musician trying to find members for bands today you would realize that. Even the bad musicians then could still play better then a lot of the people making millions today.
@jostheller...I was talking rock, not metal, and I understand there are new genres, but I wasn't talking about music in new genres, I was talking about basic rock, and basic rock has died.
@ajaxmil...Yes, Steve Vai is great, he is 80s. Dave Navarro and Stone Gossard are definitely better then most today, but even they started a very long time ago, they aren't 'new' guitar players, even though they are mainly known as 90s guitar players. And I'm sorry, but the majority of the other guitar players you mentioned are nothing more then glorified rhythm players who can't even really play in tune. Actually, that is putting down rhythm players, because great rhythm players are also hard to find, and it isn't as easy as it seems. Buckethead is ok, but I saw him fairly recently and he wasn't good at all, maybe just an off night. And I'm sorry, Radiohead? They are tragically bad...tragically bad. Believe me, I want a new great rock band, and I try to listen to everything that people go on and on about, to hopefully find something new, but it is just horrible. The state of music is quite obvious when 'The Edge' and Jack White are put along side Jimmy Page. Jack White can't even play in tune. Oh, and by the way, you know there are more 70s bands then just Zeppelin...
I understand there is more to music then just rock, but we were talking about rock, and the quality of ROCK has decreased. In fact, people just seem to call everything rock today, it is hilarious. The quality of some music has increased, but you have to wade through a bunch of garbage to find it. As long as good musicianship is thought of as only 'for old people' and that it is 'egotistical' music will just continue to get worse.
There are plenty of fantastic musicians today, but they are playing in fusion bands and other underground types of music that most people don't listen to. I know a ton of fantastic musicians, but the music is just so complex that although I see it for amazing ability, I don't enjoy listening to it. I also know tons of great musicians who are older, but the music industry is ageist, and won't accept people over 25 unless they are from already well known bands. Sure, they can play to 15 people in a small bar, but that isn't exactly the same. - DCstewieG, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4Make sure you've got In Absentia and Deadwing...in 5.1 if possible.
- Wavemancali, on 11/12/2009, -1/+4And according to pastafarianism, the decline of the number of pirates in the world corresponds to the rise in global warming.
http://www.venganza.org/images/PiratesVsTemp.png
May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage
Ramen - smord, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3Oh, it's based on an article from Rolling Stone, the magazine so dedicated to their audience of 99% aging baby boomers who love constantly hearing that their generation had the best music that they put Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, or one of the Beatles on their cover multiple times a year.
NEXT. - jshhmr, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3Neil Peart from Rush got me into Porcupine Tree!! So much like Dream Theater. They are awesome.
- fedorafandango, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4My Morning Jacket will melt your face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Q9iAcPjzc - thethunderbird, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4I don't see what you're getting at... Nickelback is pretty mainstream and they're........ Ohhh good point.
- ajaxmil, on 11/13/2009, -1/+3Silversun Pickups are my fave,
Tool is always a trip,
and why not Radiohead? - ajaxmil, on 11/13/2009, -2/+4When Rap makes up the majority of the chart toppers, that's what you get.
- ajaxmil, on 11/13/2009, -1/+3Tom Morello, Mike Eizinger, Steve Vai, Matthew Bellamy, Johnny Greenwood, Herman Li, Josh Homme, Brian Auberger, Stone Gossard, Jack White, Buckethead, Ed O'Brien, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, John Frusciante, Dave Navarro,
um.... should I... should I keep going? Or are you just gonna ignore me, put on your Zeppelin album, and ignore the thousands of amazing bands out there today? - superal1394, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2Rock music is now mature as a genre, there will be another genre sooner or later that will take off and blaze a new trail.
- absurdist, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2Frank Zappa on the decline and fall of the rock music industry...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZazEM8cgt0 - barktwiggs, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2Obviously, oil production is a lagging indicator as to the quality of Rock Music. Once we start making non-sucky music again, then we'll have low gas prices again. Drill, Baby, Drill!
- kicker58, on 11/13/2009, -1/+3Anything with Jack white and k'naan http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=k%27naan& ...
- ajaxmil, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2anyone who bitches about rock sucking today is too lazy to turn off the radio and see some live shows.
- sleestakslayer, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2In the United States it did. Global peak oil is predicted by some to be within the next 5-7 years.
- blindmelon1, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2But Dynamic Range Compression, limiting, clipping and all around poor mastering is killing the metal, through terrible sound :(
- roebeet, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2The 1960's -- as seen through rose colored glasses. I guess he forgot about these other chart toppers from the late 60's....
The Archies - "Sugar Sugar"
Jackie Deshannon - " Put A Little Love In Your Heart"
Merrilee Rush &The Turnabouts - "Angel Of The Morning"
Look back 20 years from now, and see who stays relevant. I bet it won't be the Jonas Brothers. - pilgrim3970, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2nah....won't be able to hear it, will be to busy playing through an amp cranked to 11
- blindmelon1, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2Not to bitch about modern rock, a lot of it is very, very good! It's a great time for good music, you've just got to find it :)
The thing that is killing music today is the "Loudness Wars," we have the technology to be making incredible sounding recordings, and that has been done (See Beck -Seachange, Opeth - Damnation, Most of the Porcupine Tree Catalog, Radiohead .. etc), but sadly, these are in the minority.
Unfortunately artists, suits and mastering engineers try to make the albums they are making as loud as they can. Killing the dynamic range and overall sound quality in the process. This is a damn shame! And it's not only on new releases, a lot of remasters are sounding worse than the original releases, due to this ***** mastering trend! - jostheller, on 11/13/2009, -1/+3Chuck Schuldiner is one of the greatest and deserves a mention. RIP. Mark Morton can play a decent solo. And Dylan Ruskin can play the guitar like no one from the 70's, 80's, or 90's could...
and let me just add that I am very into rock music from the 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's. Floyd, Zeppelin are two of my favorite bands... The old dudes over at The Rollingstone are bitter and have dated tastes in music. Just because music has changed, doesnt mean you shouldn't explore what the new genre's are doing... Rollingstone refuses to embrace anything new. -
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