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- DarkerMaster, on 04/10/2008, -3/+67Obligatory...
***** THE RIAA - Celeron, on 04/10/2008, -6/+53The day RIAA goes out of business, I will go out and buy a movie.
- ravage86, on 04/10/2008, -0/+39The RIAA is for music. Perhaps you're referring to the MPAA?
- Subriot, on 04/10/2008, -0/+31♪♫ The RIAA...
Taking away your freedoms,
one lawsuit at a time. ♫♪ - nationalist, on 04/10/2008, -1/+28EPIC FAIL!
- InsaneMachine, on 04/10/2008, -0/+26You want the MPAA for that. Go buy an album instead.
- hardwickj, on 04/10/2008, -0/+24You know....I don't really care for her either, but ***** me some of you digg'ers are stupid....
- inactive, on 04/10/2008, -0/+20Nice to see the RIAA has taken a Dick Cheney approach...
- icegoddess13, on 04/10/2008, -0/+19I'm really glad the government is finally starting to do something to deter these guys.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go download some pirated material so I can support my local terrorist group.
/sarcasm - Jo9100, on 04/10/2008, -0/+18Dear RIAA,
If you want us to buy CDs, stop wanting us to pay $22.99 for 12 tracks. Remember the rest of the world (the consumers) aren't as rich as you are. Stop whining and do like other companies: be competitive. Think, instead of whining about people downloading your songs. Just ***** grow up.
Sincerely, - Jo9100, on 04/10/2008, -1/+14PS. Dear RIAA,
All right, maybe what we're doing is not morally correct. But stop whining: if you'd give actually a part of the albums money to the ARTISTS (instead of putting 95% in your pocket like now), then maybe, I say maybe, we'll consider trying to think to buy a CD sometime. - ravage86, on 04/10/2008, -0/+12I think its only fair then that I don't need a license for my music collection.
- Slackdragon, on 04/10/2008, -0/+11Even the law isn't an obstacle in their psychotic defense of an outmoded business model. They've shown they're not in it to protect the artist like they claim... and they have the balls to call a college student on a file sharing network the "pirate"?
- FeloniusMonkey, on 04/10/2008, -0/+11(Insert additional unnecessary correction here)
- Lunarbunny, on 04/10/2008, -0/+9I'm sorry, what? "...that even if MediaSentry's evidence was obtained illegally, it should still be admissible." So we should hold a double standard where the RIAA's and associates' actions, whether illegal or not, should be completely acceptable, while "making available" should mean a financial hangman's noose?
- h4mx0r, on 04/10/2008, -1/+10The day the MPAA goes out of business, I will go out and buy an album...
wait a sec... - inspecality, on 04/10/2008, -0/+7The problem is that the intellectual property system is broken, and in its current state, is beneficial for the RIAA and MPAA with really no fairness to defendants. They collect an IP address, try and force colleges to willingly give up the privacy of its students, then graciously allow the students to pay thousands of dollars to avoid it going to court.
However, if the defendant takes it to court, the RIAA or MPAA sues for thousands of dollars per song (the going rate of a song is $.99, if not less), which is obviously much more than the worth of the product "stolen". This all resulted off of obtaining an IP address, which has been proven to not necessarily represent a person. You may remember the case where a woman falsely accused of downloading music won the case, but the RIAA then tried to deny paying her legal fees.
I think another reason is the fact that the RIAA hasn't given any of its revenue from lawsuits to the artists. This is what really irks diggers about the organization, since it really shows them as money grubby businessman who are not in the musician's best interests. Just look at Trent Reznor, for example, and his recent success through internet distribution. In conclusion,
***** THE RIAA. - say592, on 04/10/2008, -0/+7Ill pay for my music when the RIAA decides to pay the artists fairly.
I would rather risk downloading music, and the artist AND the RIAA not get any money, but still have money for me to go to concerts, and buy t-shirts. You know, the things that actually get the artist some sort real money. - smacksaw, on 04/10/2008, -1/+7I've watched enough Law & Order to know that this sort of fruit from the poisoned tree is no good. Hopefully these judges watch Law & Order too before they make their ruling.
- inspecality, on 04/10/2008, -0/+6Oh, so if we don't do anything wrong, then we shouldn't have any reason NOT to let them spy on us.
- wfjohnston, on 04/10/2008, -0/+5If the RIAA's claims that illegally obtained evidence is admissible in a civil case are true, wouldn't the defendant still have recourse against MediaSentry?
- Daggity, on 04/10/2008, -0/+5♪♫It's hard to overstate my dissatisfaction.♫♪
- Brss45, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4If only the artists could (easily) do what nine inch nails recently did. offering free downloads /etc and selling special edition what-not.
i would rather download an album, and then donate money, so 100% of the $$ goes to the artists, none to the RIAA. Also if i decide i don't like something, i delete the download and don't donate. - TrevaLVF, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4Actually, many of us take issue with the RIAA's devious business policies concerning the musical artists they screw. You probably don't know much about the music industry to realize that it's run by thugs, including some associated with powerful global mobs that have flourished in the USA. You probably don't know that a dead musical artist (particularly one that was very popular, but unmanageable) is worth more to the RIAA , than alive. You probably have no idea of how RIAA members on the corporate end of the music industry takes unfair advantage of aspiring musical artists by convincing them that signing away all creative rights to every song they've written and produced is the only way they'll ever get the recording contracts, radio play and stadium sized concert tours. You probably don't know about the little trade tricks that the RIAA uses to screw those artists out of their royalties. For that matter, I suspect that you are too naive to know about the Payola era that coincided with the birth of Rock and Roll and Motown's R&B rise to riches. Thus, you might not be aware of how many talented artists with recognizable names and songs ended up flat broke, homeless, or dead in nursing homes for indigent artists.
You probably have no concept of how this racket has prevented some talented artists with excellent music from getting any decent breaks in the industry, from the recording and concert levels, to nation-wide and world-wide radio play. Thus, you might not understand what the RIAA does in its efforts to crush up and coming and fledgling recording studios that are run independently by the artists, or are provided for artists that want more control over their creative rights, which the RIAA refuses to offer.
I don't think that you have any idea of how many music-lovers and musical artists are angered by the no-talent swindlers that think they own the music the artists made possible and the fans made famous.
When I pay for the music, I'd rather do it by purchasing the recordings directly from the artists.
Finally, you should know that radio play was offered freely to help promote bands, their recordings and their concerts. Even that has been corrupted by greedy double-crossers which control the music industry.
I, for one, have been enjoying the freely offered music from sites that enable us to legally download free music from mostly unknown and hardly known artists that can be spared the inner trappings set by thugs that run the corporate music industry. At least, I get exposed to more diversity and often to much better sounds than the limit crap with few genuinely excellent offerings by seeking alternatives to the RIAA. - Matri, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4Don't confuse them with facts and evidence.
- bethehammer, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4he got a little nervous with his comment or he was drunk/high
- houndeyex, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4Freedom costs a buck-o-five.
- meells, on 04/10/2008, -0/+4Your statement is simply beyond insane. Do you actually believe this, or are you a brainless parrot second-handing something? For your own intellectual good, look into your own claims, please. I hate to think that someone ike you is out there running free, with the potential of being a voter, no less.
- MrWhite7, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3Worthwhile comparison. I agree with you personally, but the vast majority of diggers rationalize piracy ideologically and ignore the force of law and intellectual property. It's interesting (I'm not saying it's irrational, I'm pissed too) that some turn back to the law to protect them. I'm not talking absolutes, I'm just talking anecodotally.
- Witchdoktor, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3Dugg for possible Hall & Oates reference in the title.
- bondman007, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3***** the RIAA. I've read enough ***** stories about them and hated them long enough. every Digg member should be saying this at some point.
- hexr, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3JODAN EL RIAA
- xblitzkrieg, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3I could have pirated Ghosts I-IV by Nine Inch Nails, but I purchased the CD instead. If all albums were as affordable, then maybe I would start actually buying music. The same goes for movies. Trent Reznor is a genius.
- Blue_Eon, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3Oh, and I do pay for my music...by making sure I buy merchandise that helps fund the artists directly.
- Blue_Eon, on 04/10/2008, -0/+3Except the fact that is not stealing...it's making a copy of something that is infinitely reproducible at negligible costs. If people were going into stores and stealing CDs by the truckloads, then you might have a case, but the RIAA treats bits of data like they do a CD, often times worse than a CD because you fined a lot more for "stealing" songs than you would if you had stolen CDs out of a store.
Until the RIAA gets a clue and tries to compete with piracy instead of abolishing it, then they will always lose, but the people who buy their music and have done so for years at outlandish prices, are the enemy in their eyes, regardless of what they do. Make us want to buy your music, instead of making us hate you and alienating us by treating us all like criminals because you can't seem to grasp the idea of CHANGE. Treat us as if we're the ones who matter, not CEOs, or the shareholders, or the people they pay off to get laws passed that essentially give them free reign over innovation and competition. They are a mafia, plain and simple.
Pirating is wrong, but what the RIAA is doing to the artists and regular citizens of the world is doubly wrong. - gyronic, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2Ahh but you are RICH ENOUGH! They know it, all of corporate America knows it.
People need to start addressing the source of this issue, THE ARTISTS.
Demand your favorite ARTISTS stop hiring these thugs. - BobsYourUncle, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2He's posted almost the exact same comment in other RIAA-related threads. Just a troll, move along...
- k1down, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2shut the ***** up.
- one2gamble, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2If they argue that then someone could basically walk into the RIAA office building or *cough* hack their servers to obtain some interesting information and then use said information to prosecute them.
- bicyclethief, on 04/10/2008, -0/+2Dugg for Hall & Oates
- Whackly, on 04/10/2008, -1/+2tell the mpaa
buy a cd if the mpaa goes down? - danarama, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1they're trying to scare people into buying mp3s instead of sharing mp3s
- omercyme33, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1Why does the RIAA continue to confuse "protecting copyrights" with "alienating customers"?
- Travelsonic, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1*squak*
- Cherubim, on 04/10/2008, -1/+2Music CDs are finished. It's a pity the old farts in the RIAA can't see this. Either they change or perish.
- inactive, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1they should!
If all lawyers were shot in the face the world will be a better place. - kb9vgr, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1im impressed a well thought out and creative post well done
and my sentiments exactly except i just dont get music at all unless its a gift or cc licensed - AvangionQ, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1"A college student at Northern Michigan University representing him or herself recently submitted a motion seeking to quash a subpoena directed at the school, arguing that the data collected by MediaSentry was "obtained through felonious conduct." The motion refers to a ruling made last month by the Michigan Department of Labor and Economic Growth that MediaSentry needs to be licensed in order to "perform regulated activities." Regulators at the department have reportedly sent the company a letter informing them of the decision, although MediaSentry refused to confirm receipt to Ars. The company has also received a cease-and-desist order from the Massachusetts State Police saying that its investigative activities violate state law. Doe number 5 in LaFace Records v. Does 1-5 believes that's enough to exclude MediaSentry's data. "[E]quity demands that Plaintiffs not be permitted to benefit in any way from the felonious conduct of their agent," argues the student. "It shocks the conscience to think any subpoena would be sustained when based solely on such outrageous conduct."" ... this should be a nail in the coffin for further litigious activity on the part of the RIAA and MPAA ... lawsuits do not remedy a faulty antiquated business plan -- adapt or go extinct ... creating a BitTorrent service including unlimited downloads on a monthly subscription plan for *every* song and movie in your extensive collection archives would be a good start ...
- macinit1138, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1It follows logically that, in a government leaning more fascist everyday, that evidence obtained illegally by corporations would and should in every way be deemed legal for using against the average citizen. Otherwise one might get confused that there was still a republic in place. With pro-Constitutionalism beaten dead, this is the system the mass idiots have left us in.
- bosssmiley, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1"Hah! I am above ze law!" /Chef Aid
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