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Court orders KAZAA owners to block pirated content
usatoday.com — A federal court ruled Monday that the popular file-swapping program Kazaa infringes on copyright and gave its purveyors two months to alter the system so its users can no longer engage in music piracy.
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- IHaveIssues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Couldn't the owners just move the company to a new country?
- anjinash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, good luck with THAT. Kind of like saying "Here's a tonka truck, now go move that mountain."
- Gorbash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0People are still using Kazaa?
- whizzbang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this is a terrible blow for spyware...
*shakes fist at kazaa* - reaver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"People are still using Kazaa?"
Same exact thing I was thinking while reading this. - Grassmunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kazaa will now be known as Tazaa due to the fact that company was sold to an individual in thailand. This individual will be closing Kazaa's doors on Friday please pack up all your items.
Done and done. - KriLL3.2â„¢, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The issue is that a court order like this could force creators of other P2P applications to do the same.
I hope they leave bittorrent and Bram Cohen alone.
The main reason they're doing this is due to the RIAA/MPAA claiming that all downloaded music/movies etc each result in a lost sale. That's totally dumb to claim. I'm in Sweden and half of all shows I like aren't available on TV in my area (Only got digital terrestial, no cable) So I cant even access the material they claim I ain't buying due to downloads... Yeah the logic is striking. - veter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love how out of touch people who are supposedly running our nations are.
This isn't even a possibility...what are they going to do? block certain file names? Wow, you know that'd stop people. - hawks5999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Get ready for Kazaa 2.0 where you will be able to download all the *AA sanctioned material you can handle in heavily DRMd WMV available for $39.99/month (a la Napster 2.0).
Oh wait. That's called cable. Hmmmm... that could work. Kazable - Sferrero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What the crap.
Now no more hacking with Ramzi! - spaceninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I love this, Filter Copyrighted Material.... what are they so pose to do look at billions of files on millions of peoples hard drives? What is this crap about "Damages to the Artist"? The ARTIST doesn't even get paid when they win a lawsuit. I am waiting for someone to sue the RIAA for filing a lawsuit under false pretenses. Since that is what they were doing.
- b04155, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kazable
I like that name better. Only in name though. - Dhalgren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Will I still be able to get pr0n from Kazzaa? BTW, I use KLTk++ (non spyware version of Kazzaa). I've tried using bittorrent for pr0n, but it's a lot more work than Kazzaa...
- BunnyGN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think its time someone diggs up some dirt on the RIAA. I’m sure they would starting re-thinking their evil plan to wipe out digital media when they have to sue their own kid for music “piracy�.
- Thundercat71, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kazable makes me think of Snoop Dog
- ebob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Obviously, a few people still use Kazaa (not me). Kazaa initially grew its userbase by disabling Morpheus, thus forcing all those users to seek out alternatives (of which few existed at that time). I don't think that there is a reliable way for Kazaa to keep its users from trading copyrighted works without disabling FastTrack for its own users. This, of course, would mean the end of Kazaa, just as it did for Morpheus. The only difference is that there are far fewer people who will care.
- codeoptimist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Agreed, BunnyGN. Some group should get together (a la EFF, various anti-EU software patent groups, etc) and hit the RIAA with a taste of their own medicine. It's clear that they love lawsuits, so why don't we give 'em some?
- ja450n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0by the same token, i think the entire Internet should be taken offline until all copyright sharing can be controlled.
if you look at it truthfully, it's not Kazaa that's encouraging the sharing of data, it's the Internet itself. - raano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm glad this was Oz and not the USA. Us colonists like our Internet fast , hacked and free.
- rawr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kazaa is bad anyway.
- GraceMolloy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kazaa blows anyway. too much crap getting passed on it.
- muElliott, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I read this post and thought "Am I back in 2001?" For those of you that still use Kazaa, I have two words for you...BitTorrent and Azureus. :-P
- h4lofourt33n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you still use kazaa you shouldnt be on digg.
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0that's stupid... how the hell are they supposed to stop an independant network? Just goes to show just how little the system knows about p2p...
- Hellevator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Personally I'm glad kazaa is being shut down- it will keep dumb people from file sharing.
I'm sure the tv stations will be covering this story like its the end to file sharing or some crap like that. - DryPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think this is a good thing. Let the RIAA waste their time on old useless P2P sites and make the entertainment industry think they are doing something. Meanwhile a billion other files will be pirated via bittorrent and better p2p clients.
- IraqManiac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0oooh I think they really are going to block pirated content... [/sarcasm] how exactly are they planning on doing that? but seriously, who uses kazaa anymore
- sailor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1kazaa is the AOL of file sharing clients...
doesn't anyone use usenet anymore? - SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0kazaa doesnt use any central servers. as long as the installer is available on the web people can continue to use it. we need a worthless but easy p2p to attract all the stupid people and keep them away from the real p2p sources. let the 9 year old girls download britney spears and get sued by the RIAA. that way nobody is asking about my 200+ gigs of movies.
- M4tt3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0^^ I'm with SmeRndmGy.
- hoopy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The best way to do this would be to delete their source tree.
- KriLL3.2â„¢, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kazaa is like the sink's pipe bend. It keeps the grime put. ;)
If kazaa suddenly vanished torrent sites would be flooded by the kazaa stuffâ„¢ we all hate so much. - JustinJS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i didnt think anyone uses kazz anymore ive been using limewire or now shareaza
- TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0>> I am waiting for someone to sue the RIAA for filing a lawsuit under
>> false pretenses.
Court starts thursday. ;D - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Filters don't work, it didn't work for Napster it wont work for kazaa. What the courts did was tie a large stinking albatross around Kazaa's neck.
Napster tried it really did try, what they found is file traders just modified the names of the files. What, block on hashes, nope! They changed those too.
They will have to go back to court to rid themselves of this dead bird or skip town.
Wow I use to think Australia was cool.
First no M rated Video games now this. - veter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0People don't seem to understand the implications of this...There is far more to this than just people using Kazaa getting screwed. The real problem is that similar decisions may start popping up...
Just wait til BitTorrent is under attack...This type of thing hopefully just stops right here; not that I'd count on it. - brashquido, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sad day to be an Aussie. There are 4 points about this that disturb me very much;
1) Even if Kazaa is not the P2P app of choice anymore, this case will be used to establish precedent in cases in the future that the entertainment industry will no doubt launch on other P2P apps.
2) The judge has a dangerously shallow understanding of the technology, and placing such an impossible requirement as to filter all copyright material will be used as a catalyst to shutdown ALL p2p apps as they are now. I'm no fan of Kazaa myself, but their comparision of their technology to a tape recorder or photocopier is very valid, but one it seems the judge was unable or unwilling to take into any real consideration.
3) This decision is far reaching, effecting people outside of Australia's borders.
4) Finally, the one thing that disturbs me the most is that this decision effectively holds the developer for the actions of its users. In a world where people take less and less responsibility for their actions, this is a VERY dangerous road to start down and one that saddens me deeply being an Australian. - brashquido, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Another good, very straight down the line, none biased/sensationalist analysis of the decision here;
http://weatherall.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_weatherall_archive.html#112592939140783823 - windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kazaa sucks just as much as the court order, if even that much.
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