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- PaulPinfield, on 01/08/2008, -2/+63You mean storing my music in iTunes is currently a criminal offence?
Asinine... - Gorvan, on 01/08/2008, -1/+43"the law should be changed so it keeps up with the times", he said ironically, 10 years late.
- SSUK, on 01/08/2008, -1/+33About bloody time too. How am I breaking copyright if I'm moving music I'VE ALREADY PAID FOR over to devices I use for myself? Does this mean that moving a CD around with me to play in my portable CD player is against copyright? Because it's more or less the same damn thing.
- cbrunet, on 01/08/2008, -0/+18Sweet, Englishmen everywhere will be happy that they will be able to use the other 75GB of their 80GB iPod's finally.
- bryano, on 01/08/2008, -3/+19***** the BPI !
- KineticShampoo, on 01/08/2008, -2/+17You bet your ***** ass it should be legal! I ***** payed for this!
- speedyrev, on 01/08/2008, -2/+15It's funny how many Americans assume that they are the only ones on the internet. This is an article about the UK and how they are trying to update copyright law.
- widgetmaker, on 01/08/2008, -0/+12Remember this is the UK it is against the law here.
- cbrunet, on 01/08/2008, -1/+12You only paid to listen to the CD, the copyright holder should be compensated every time you try to listen to it on another device. You are cheating the system by listening to your purchased product different ways. It would be buying food from McDonalds but eating it in a Wendy's. Then the floodgates would really open... Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!
- breezytrees, on 01/08/2008, -1/+10wait so this is illegal in uk? wtf?
- widgetmaker, on 01/08/2008, -0/+9heh about 20-30 years to late (home taping etc)
- Twoodge, on 01/08/2008, -0/+8Does anyone actually worry about the legality of this sort of thing any more though?
- MattB123, on 01/08/2008, -0/+8If it becomes illegal I'm sure everyone will stop doing it.
- inactive, on 01/08/2008, -0/+8Obviously the law is just a vague copyright law that you cant copy and reproduce stuff that is copyrighted. What this article is saying is that the law should be rewrote to keep up with electronic media and the ease and ability to copy it.
- chestertonb, on 01/08/2008, -0/+8Just by reading these few comments its obvious that people are unsure as to what the law is in the UK. Thus surely it makes sense for the UK government to clarify the laws on the statute book and make them relevant for new technologies. If they piss off a some record comopanies because they cant take our trousers down and do us dry anymore, well that just a bonus.
- inactive, on 01/08/2008, -5/+13United Kingdom is a lot more than England.
- cbrunet, on 01/08/2008, -0/+7I'm pretty sure its illegal in the UK, but not so much in NA.
- winmywii, on 01/08/2008, -1/+8This is fair use in the US, right?
- mattr12345, on 01/08/2008, -1/+8Hah, the law. This is the internet. Wake up.
- rohanch, on 01/08/2008, -0/+7It's technically illegal, but accepted as legal by everyone anyway, even by the BPI (our equivalent of the RIAA). They just want to rewrite the law so it specifically makes ripping CDs an acceptable use.
- yaryarhumphump, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6Of course according to the industry Fair Use = listening to the disk in a sound proof room, so no one can hear it, in the dark so you cant see the lyrics or art work, without singing along or humming, and upon exiting the room having a RIAA goon inject you with chemicals to make you forget the song so you cant transport the song in your memory to another location and think about the song or reproduce it in your mind.....
- lewhich, on 01/08/2008, -1/+7So I've been a criminal all this time using my iTunes
- inactive, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6I'm not sure it would fall under Fair Use here in the UK.
http://copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_u ... - coleki, on 01/08/2008, -1/+7Hey, you! Yeah, you-- the one talking about how the RIAA is evil. Guess what?
This article is referring entirely to the UK.
Ugh. Am I the only American who doesn't think everything on the internet takes place in America? (even when specifically stated otherwise!)
edit:
Now that I have refreshed my session, my post is redundant. Oh well.
P.S. - Am I the only one with that problem? Sometimes I'll login, immediately try to make a post, and receive the "Sorry, your session has expired" message... - RogerStrong, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6Sharing with family and friends is also legal in Canada. In exchange we pay a tariff on recordable media. It's *public* distribution that's illegal.
- snatchmstr, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6Nope
- bjs3171, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6funny. that's a good one.
and ***** you for making me want Wendy's now. - cbrunet, on 01/08/2008, -0/+5United Kingdomers then? Sorry, I don't know the lingo, my bad.
- roebeet, on 01/08/2008, -0/+5Exactly on the mark! Even if this becomes law in the UK, it means absolutely nothing to other countries (including the US).
- SmpleJohn, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4You still have a portable CD player?
- localzuk, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4It is *not* already legal, as the law is vague. What we have at the moment is a sort of legal immunity, as no court would hear such a case, the CPS would not bring a case, and the police would not send a case for the CPS to look at. However, if there was a change in the judiciary, there could be prosecutions for it. The change in the law, whilst making some things implicitly illegal, also makes this aspect of copying implicitly legal.
- ninsei, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4Don't know about the States but in Canada we can make as many copies as we like and alter it in any way, it's the distribution that is illegal.
- Myonosken, on 01/08/2008, -4/+8It means to clarify it. As has been shown by wankers like the RIAA, it isn't clarified well enough.
- fowleryo, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4*cartman* I'll do what I want
- KyleGoetz, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4I know this article is about the UK, but since ninsei talked about Canada in response, I'll clarify the US's law: Chapter 17 of the United States Code states that making unauthorized copies of copyrighted information is copyright infringement.
However, Section 107 of the same Chapter incorporates the doctrine of Fair Use as an affirmative defense (basically, with an affirmative defense--e.g., self-defense or insanity--you don't deny that you broke the law, but instead say your actions were justified or have an excuse).
The Supreme Court (and to the best of my knowledge, no Appellate Courts) has never ruled whether ripping CDs for iPods and such is fair use. So the issue is technically unsettled, but pretty much everyone (except the RIAA) agrees that ripping music for personal use is fair use. If this sort of law were to be passed in the US, it would only be to clarify an already widely-accepted belief about the law. - andyakadum, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4Yeah! ***** everyone!
- inactive, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4http://copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_u ...
- localzuk, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4True. What's with the links to Fair Use documents? And mentions of the RIAA? We don't have either over here. We do have 'fair dealing' common law though - but this still doesn't cover this issue.
- stillrealvicz, on 01/08/2008, -2/+5My CD my choice what I do with it whatever the pigopolists say. If you don't like it, don't sell 'em. Simple.
- AgarwaenUmarth, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3No. The law in the UK is vague.
Besides, it's unenforcible even if it is illegal. - drlha, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3I have personally never encountered a CD with DRM (and buy probably 10-20 CDs per year), so I doubt it is "most".
- catalysis, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3I don't see how that makes it illegal to copy a CD to your computer. Care to explain?
- cbrunet, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3You realize it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a reason, right? Did my sarcasm get lost among the tubes of the internet?
- cbrunet, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3Oh man... I could SO go for a Baconator right about now....
- spyrochaete, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3Uploading, not downloading, is illegal in Canada. For now.
- BradMajors, on 01/08/2008, -2/+5Bad news. It is already legal. What this law would implicitly do is to make other fair use copying implicitly illegal.
- localzuk, on 01/08/2008, -0/+2I get that problem all the time. Irritating as hell sometimes.
- dcshiderly, on 01/08/2008, -0/+2Copies made for personal use are allowed under Fair Use. Just because the RIAA wants you to buy additional copies of the CD to put in your car, home player, and PC doesn't mean they can make you. People say the jury's still out, but the Sony Betamax case put this to rest in the '70s.
- MSP1, on 01/09/2008, -0/+2"Because this is about the U.K. and not America?"
What has that got to do with anything and where is this "America" you prattle about? Never heard of it. - t3rmv3locity, on 01/08/2008, -0/+2Dugg for the genuine british term such as 'wanker'.
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