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- TheComputerMutt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33I think that most of us would view this as a good thing, not as a problem.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I hope this has a viral effect and spreads globally. The copyright mafia needs to be stopped, and fast.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Buh. RIAA explicitly serves the Recording Industry, not recording artists. The industry means the record companies, who clearly view the artists as a marginally necessary evil at best.
- netmancer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18According to the article, 6 of Canada's leading recording companies quit the CRIA, citing that the intrests of the CRIA do not align with thier intrests. Would this lead to those recording companies forming thier own version of the CRIA?? This victory may be for naught if that happens. Just a theory. Also, good luck on getting the members of the RIAA to pull out.
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17viva la piratpartiet! ;)
- shreky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Downloading music in the usa is also legal. Sharing music with p2p is where it gets tricky.
- calabria, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Downloading Music is legal in Canada, so there really is no need for this organization. I'm not surprised its falling apart.
- SparQy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Yeah, it's sort of a loophole, but it is really making ANY entity, corporate or private, subsidize music downloaders (of which I am one). So, a corporation that buys media for data backup is paying a tax which goes into the pockets of the CRIA. And who the hell really knows where it goes from there. Almost definitely not to the artists that need it or deserve it.
I personally prefer Sweden's Pirate Party's approach better... changing the political landscape to change the underlying laws. - sedition, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I don't think I've ever seen the RIAA protect anyone but themselves.
- negativeview, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Artists give (a large) part of their profit to the record companies. If the RIAA is the only organization that is able to protect the individual artists... what are record companies for?
Microsoft and Apple both sue people if they have a reason to. Why do artists need two levels of abstraction? Where is the CIAA (Computer Industry Association of America)? Why is it that Sony/BMG can't sue people themselves? - alexonix, on 10/12/2007, -21/+27This is a problem only maple syrup could fix.
- Mischa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Right the eff on.
- B4202, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6FREE THE MUSIC !!!!!!!
- Legion303, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Nettwerk is known for top Canadian artists (such as Sum 41, Swollen Members and Avril Lavign)"
Nettwerk is also known for its good bands, such as Skinny Puppy. - Brigadier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The fact that they left the CRIA would hopefully mean that any affiliation they do form wouldn't agree with everything the CRIA does. With smaller industry groups, they should also have less pull over the government. That should mean less ability to act like their own law-making body, as the RIAA effectively is in the US.
- mcbean, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Dude, did you rtfa? Have any clue the scope of Nettwerrk and Anthem Records? Right. Michael Geist's comments on how the C is being removed from the CRIA is a good place to start.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Indeed. I certainly hope Rickard & Co. succeed. I hope my interview managed to boost their chances.
- Walker2323, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8We pay a nominal levy on blank recordable media that is supposed to offset the cost of illegal downloads to the record companies. Nice little lophole, huh?
- romeyinfc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4True, but that doesn't stop us from wishful thinking...
I'd love nothing more than to see the demise of a group that is more interested in persecuting their own consumers and grappling onto their archaic business models - rather than catching up with 21st century technology and working on behalf of recording artists. - Flankk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Infringing on copyright is not legal in Canada nor the United States. Furthermore, case law shows that the RIAA can even cross borders to sue pirates if they are sharing American label music. The CRIA is not falling apart, nor do they primarily regulate illegal P2P downloads.
Frankly, this widespread misinformation about Canada disgusts me. Canada is not a socialist country. Health care and welfare are social services thus they are based on socialist doctrines; it works very well. Everything else is very democratic. Some people only see in black and white, I'm afraid. - TugsMcgroin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This article is skewed. Did Sam Bulte loose her seat because of her CRIA connections, or because she was bested by a better politician / it was time for a change in Government? You can form an opinion, but to state that she lost because of her allegiance to the music industry is bad journalism. Sure she had it comming, but so did her entire government.
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hate to be the pessimist, but I bet those companies that quit the CRIA are going to join and/or form something else to protect their copyright.
- Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It might also mean that while the current levy on recordable discs largely protects Canadian downloaders from prosecution, if the CRIA (and the levy) go away then Canadians will be open to nuisance lawsuits from whoever is representing the recording studios.
- SpannerX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Up until last year, Canada was #2 for sales of english language music. Think about that for a second.
- eadnams, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The canadian copyright laws in regards to music piracy are a little different than the USA, for example, its only illegal to send out mpp3's of a CD you ow/rip, if you dont ow the CD, theres some kind of loophole that makes it not illegal.
- jinexile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I live in a small hick town in Northern Alberta, poutine is on the menu of every restraunt including the franchised fast food places.
- balognytts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Don't forget, it was the music companies in Canada who fought for the blank media levy which made downloading illegal. If memory serves correct, the act passed only a couple of years before mp3's became widespread. Prior to that, the music industry was dealing with people putting music on blank cassette tapes.
I think it looks good on the music industry. Better watch what you wish for, or it may come true. - dramatools, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They forgot Sarah McLachlan. Blasphemy.
Nettwerk has always been more liberal about technology than the majors. They've always allowed 30-second clips to be used online for noncommercial purposes and they sell DRM-free MP3 tracks through Werkshop. Nettwerk is easily one of Canada's most influential label groups.
Canada doesn't need airplay quotas to build up Canadian artists. Britain doesn't have such quotas, neither do most other English-speaking countries. Canada needs strong independent labels willing to sign and promote Canadian artists while the majors spend their time repackaging international content. - techer123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It is legal because in Canada when you purchase recordable media such as a blank cd a surcharge goes to the record industry to cover the losses from file sharing, therefore Canadians have kinda prepaid to legally download :)
- JayFyve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is probably going to turn out bad for Canadians. It's a "devil you know" type sitiuation. I can just see RIAC (or RIAA Canadian Division?) forming. Or some other association forming that is a puppet of the RIAA.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not only that, but Canadians pay the music industry even when they back up data or burn music they wrote themselves to CD! Seems to me this solution is WAY in favour of the recording industry. How many data CDs are burned every day in Canada? That's free money to CRIA because they convinced the government that everyone with a CD burner is a criminal. When I spin a drum and bass mix why do I have to pay Avril Lavigne so that I can listen to it in my car?! Too much is not enough for the CRIA and that's why reputable labels are jumping ship. If Dubya didn't work for Viacom the same thing would happen in the US.
http://djbriandamage.blogspot.com for my FREE music (unless you burn it to CD - then you pay Celine Dion) - Brigadier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Now CRIA is just a shell organization for the RIAA to lobby the Canadian government"
Looks that way.
"and no one on parliment hill will take them seriously."
I'd really like to agree with you on this one, but I don't think I can.
"Whoo Canada!"
whoo. - IceCube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow! I'd just like to thank the submitter and everyone who dugg this story! Thanks! :D
- Kolar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2True eadnams, sharing CDs/rips with someone who doesn't already own it is illegal. Also uploading is not allowed but downloading is fine. There are some problems though from what I've heard. It seems the RIAA and its bastard child (the CRIA) still uses the DMCA (US legistlation) when suing or sending stop orders.
- IMA_Sellout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How do you figure... we have socialist programs in place to protect our citizens, yes, but Socialist we are not... if you are looking for socialism, check out Sweden.
- wpgbrownie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Now CRIA is just a shell organization for the RIAA to lobby the Canadian government, and no one on parliment hill will take them seriously. Whoo Canada!
- smithco, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6I wish I had some poutine right now. I'm stuck in France and can't find it anywhere here. Just goes to show that French cuisine is not superior;
- curlewfish, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3This is nonsense. The political atmosphere is completely different than the one here, and the RIAA has profited more than $100 million alone from suing people. Also, most major record labels are members (along with 1600 other record companies), so they are nowhere near falling apart.
- Woofcat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3They can't exist in Canada if its not "Canadian" I mean if there are no canadian people or companys supporting a bill why would we care?
- jessecrouch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1so. how are we going to get all the recording-industry-created-artists to leave the record labels that created them?
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Canada is a socialist country. No surprise that a copyright holder gets screwed there.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1
They've already defeated 2 proposed bills and have booted out a representative out of government. If you were a government representative in Canada and you supported the CRIA sponsered bills I would be concerned about my job. Finally, people that give a ***** about their rights and have the intelligence to organize and kick out those PAC whores.
Oh Canada Rocks. - Nuhaus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The article by Howard Knopf (that Drew Wilson cites to his benefit) is much more informative. Essentially, the Canadian Copyright Board got after the CRIA for not properly representing the actual Canadian record labels it is responsible for (Nettwerk is a "B" lable!?). Although in terms of legal precedence this may be common practice (Knopf seems to think so at any rate), it does expose the fact that the CRIA is really nothing more than a Canadian shell for the RIAA, and as such it is rapidly losing legal influence in Canada. I think the real threat to Canadian music right now is probably SOCAN, who are attempting to get a levy passed on the sale of music by Canadian artists on the internet.
- diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What has CRIA ever recorded anyway? Most of the music worth a damn is from the RIAA, so CRIA falling apart is no surprise to me. But damn, wouldn't well all love to see the RIAA fall.
- mousky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Explain how copyright holders are getting screwed in Canada? How much of the RIAA blackmail money has made it back into the pockets of the artists?
- Rajio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm a copyright holder in Canada. please explain how i am getting screwed.
- jpwillms, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Independent music forever! Sites like projectopus.com, cdbaby and others are redefining the music industry!
wh00t wh00t. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Im glad the parent was modded up, since it shows the truth of the matter. People want free stuff and villify anyone who actually has the audacity to prosecute them for taking music without paying for it. We wouldn't have DRM if it weren't for you thieves.
- snowboardr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Poutine=amazing. Ever time I got to canada, thats all I eat for a week.
- jayf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Next question = Who's bringing the mashmallows to cook over their burning empire?
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