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Bill tackles So-Called New Piracy Frontier

physorg.com — A new House bill seeks to further protect the music industry from piracy by limiting the ability to record digital radio broadcasts, singling out satellite radio industry competitors XM Radio and Sirius.

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  • scuba7183, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24When I first read the title, I thought that it was talking about Bill Gates. lol
  • joelthelion2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22This is a time for free music: http://www.jamendo.com/us
    Once the majors go bankrupt, they won't be able to pass laws anymore.
  • kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13If these hired thugs spent half as much time defending the rights of American citizens as they did defending the questionable business models of their campaign donors, we'd be a free country again.
  • plugitin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Haha lol me too. I was surprised because ol' Bill has been trying to tackle piracy for a long time.
  • Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9There actually is some really good music on that site. Thanks!
  • jhunt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9No, nobody who posted 15 minutes before you did also thought that it was talking about Bill Gates.
  • spectre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I don't know about anybody else, but as long as it makes a sound I can record it. Period.

    No DRM, or any other silly 'protection' schemes these people pull out can stop that. One day, someone at the top of money pile is going to finally realize that there is no such thing as a 'pirate' and the only people they are attacking are their own fans.

    Until then, I'll do what I always do: download an assload of music and if it doesn't suck, I pay for it. If it does suck, well, I guess you should probably make music that doesn't suck to get paid for it, huh?

    As far as I know, no artist yet has gone to the poor house because everyone downloaded his music. In particular, the people complaining the loudest seem to be the people furthest from being broke. That says a whole lot to me about the inherent greed in the system.
  • Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5recording off the radio for personal use is considered fair use... remember fair use its been a while since we had that
  • LR2_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Thanks, http://www.jamendo.com/us is defiantly bookmarked.
  • Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The only way to beat these crooks is to stop downloading their content and stop buying their CD's. I haven't purchased a major label cd in three years and I feel great. Go out to your local performing arts center and support real musicians and real music.
  • klaruz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Don't forget, this ends mp3 streaming internet radio. They tried to take internet radio out with the CARP stuff a few years ago, and ended up being able to charge them several times as much as broadcast radio gets charged. This is yet another attack to control what you hear and ensure you only buy what they pay to get played on the radio.
  • lollerskates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, yeah, when your aim is to show something to your audience, it's pretty much impossible to stop piracy.

    Also, if they're going to call it piracy, they can't call it a "New Frontier." Piracy has existed for hundreds of years, and if they call it a new frontier, they'll just have to abandon the term piracy. I don't remember any real pirates making an exact copy of what they were stealing. Nobody is deprived of anything; the original object had just decreased in value a bit.
  • positron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3More quality streaming radio comes from outside the US than inside. The streaming stations I listen to most often come from France, Switzerland, even Japan. This bill won't do anything but shut American small businesses out of yet another global marketspace.
  • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"This is yet another attack to control what you hear and ensure you only buy what they pay to get played on the radio."

    No, this is an attempt to make you buy what you hear on the radio, as opposed to just recording a perfect digital copy from the radio.
  • Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Suing thousands of people with John Doe suits, effectively trying to kill alternative distribution methods, payola, DRM, Rootkits, etc....

    Explain to me again how these people aren't criminals?
  • jakethecake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1torrenting from jamendo now, fair-rights hear i come :)
  • bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1cheers for the link...
    Its hard to tell whether these sites that set themselves up are an alternative to the RIAA or a replacement.

    I don't know much about Jamendo, but I know ITunes music store has been heralded as the great david to bring down the RIAA's goliath, but IMHO its just the RIAA's successor. It still pushes the marketable few, reaps in profits & offers little to artists.

    Record industries offered:

    1. Recording studios
    As home studios are cheap to set up, this is no longer an issue

    2. Marketting
    As the web has grown, and as each site has equal coverage (in spite of what many bribed politicians are attempting) we no longer need them for marketting.

    There was a small period of time in humankind's history when we were ignorant of the diversity of music and all pointed our eyes and ears towards the messiahs of the time, like the beatles and their ilk, but that tunnel vision is gone, and people can all share their music and ideas. It should be possible to live off your music, but it shouldn't be supporting an industry of middlemen... There are two groups required for this transaction: The artists & the listeners. Often on the internet there's no distinction between the two.

    anyway, blah blah blah... in summary ***** the RIAA
    Music can be free for a while & maybe after the RIAA is totally ***** dead we can then look toward making a decent living out of it.. in the meantime there's paypal for those artists who've set it up...

    My groups got their music for free at http://www.childreninthegame.net
    I don't really get anything out of this (except for hosting bills) There are no ads or anything on the site. We do all this live with a mad set up, so have a look/listen and share it around.

    I'm just reluctant to jump onto the next Jamendo/MurdochSpace/ITMS bandwagon when people should really be using the internet the way it was designed - DIY.
  • flaterates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The simple solution is to never, ever buy any music connected to a major lable, and watch only pirated movies. A more complicated solution is to take it up the butt without lube.
  • monolith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2One could only hope. By then though it might be to late for anything to do any good. Free content might just have to live just like the DRM'ed to death crap. Oh joy.
  • phoenixofchaos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Guys im sure every single one of us have downloaded a song before. If you where in a room full of people and you made a song would you charge them all to listen, or would you let them all listen free of charge. Im sure if you did the second option you would be more popular. Also the RIAA protects music artists my ass. ARTISTS GET ALMOST NOTHING FROM THERE ALBULMS ! They make all there money at concerts. So continue downloading and if you enjoy the music go along to there concerts and clubs or where ever they are live. RIAA look at what you are doing. Stop being money hungry idiots.
  • sert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been thinking with that logic for a while spectre, I figure that there is just no way they will ever stop music and movie piracy because it can be very easily reproduced.

    This is just to stop devices that make it very easy to catch certain songs and record them. But then again it would be much easier to just go on the internet and get the entire album in good quality instead of one song in crap quality. It's simply just not why people get satellite radio.

    If anything, the real threat is software like Limewire that makes it incredibly easy for everyday joes to type in what they want and go (then again maybe they could learn something from it).
  • tmcdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wouldn't it be more appropriate for the RIAA/MPAA to take 100% of the content off the cable-tv stations, radio stations, music stores, video sales, movie theaters, EVERYWHERE, and put it in one GIANT safe, and sell tickets to the content behind giant glass so people can gawk at what they can't have!
    Imagine at 100% boycott of all media, and I mean EVERYTHING. It would ruin a 75 billion dollar industry overnight! Well, this is what the riaa/mpaa is doing suing their customers one at a time..
  • IncognitoCraven, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Reported as inaccurate, but it's also old news.

    As worded this can be interepreted to apply to web stations as well.

    Say bye bye to accessible/efficient mp3/ogg stations and hello to tinny WMA (if you happen to be on a sanctioned platform) OR call/write your reps today.
  • vdeogmer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I suppose THAT Bill will just have to wait for his war on piracy.
  • Dabellah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Done.
  • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Fair use is an exception to copyright law that was put in place during analog radio days. It's not really fair in today's market when the copy off the radio is as good as the copy from iTMS.
  • damnwilcox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Well, IT FIGURES is all I gotta say about media and govn't-- they don't know up from down when it comes to technology. As long as there is analog output at the viewing/listening end there is no stopping 'piracy', and I don't mean an analog out plug I mean it becomes light or a ripple in the air. Everything is reproducible, even IDs and cards and things designed not to be --albeit with more expensive technology than a home computer.
    But bills like these show blatent disregard for what a computer IS and what a network IS. If by decree I said that no one is to DRAG items to the trash/recycle bin, with little to no power of enforcement, no good reason aside from my ego and honestly expect people to listen...Well I'd be branded as crazy. "delete stuff however you want. Just don't drag it!"
    Yes my comparison is as superficial as that, but the stuff in question is too easy. They're talking about how to criminalize bit moving from one device to another, with disregard as to the ease. But how easy is azureus, or sneaker net, or ...a modern OS for sharing? EASY! They either just tried to shot themselves in the foot or technology...
    They're starting another Drug war in a sense, a war that can't be won, too common to stop, opens a new black market they won't be able to stop, and all the while impresses the enforcement's incompetance upon everyday people. Yay!
    D
  • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Yes, people who want their copyright rights enforced are crooks, and people who want to record tracks from the radio instead of paying $0.99/song are victims.
  • chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5Did anyone else automatically think the title was talking about Bill Gates?
  • CoolDude330, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2To jeasus3christ: Now seriously, was that required? Cant n00bs like you just go and do somthing good with your complete uselessness? Why dont you just go jump off a cliff? We dont care. Go kill yourself. Happy?
  • jhunt, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2heh
  • Rhaegal, on 10/12/2007, -26/+7Please don't mod me down.
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