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- Nick_Circosta, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18God i love living in australia :)
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Yea for sane Assusies! Now if only the United States would learn a thing or two about fair use and its proper aplication.
- NoQuarter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Currently, UK law holds that ripping CDs is illegal. Also, you are only permitted to watch a show recorded from the television once, after which it must not be viewed again.
No one worries about either, and with good reason. I doubt anyone has been prosecuted for either act. - dylan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Amen to that :)
- Spanca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10You have to consider how behind we are on these sorts of things though. Current laws mean it's illegal to rip a CD to your computer. So really, before the iTunes Music Store was launched here last October, there really wasn't a way to fill the iPods that had been sold in their thousands here!
Still, it's a step in the right direction. - NeoRicen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Wow, I've been a criminal for a long time, didn't know that stuff was illegal. I guess it's jsut one of those laws no one knows about and was somewhat unintentional.
- Spanca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It didn't "come into effect" a few years ago, it's always been like that. They are old laws that seem stupid when applied to a modern context. That being said, the ARIA (Australia's RIAA equivalent) has openly said they would not be pursuing home users for ripping their CDs for use on iPods and similar activities.
- fredinator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6For once im glad that I live in australia
- MattH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Some States in Australia have already decriminalised the possession of small amounts of Marijuana .
http://www.drugpolicy.org/global/drugpolicyby/australianew/ - avatarpalin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yes well that all well and fine but we all know it's not policed in this country anyway so the net effect is nil. I am Australian and I am pretty certain It wouldn't change the attitude of people that do it, nor will it encourage people to rip. When the law passes in this country it will be met with a national '...meh'
- JasonPrini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Australians CONSIDERING... Mexico considered decriminalizing pot... until the Americans found out. Canada has been trying for a while, and every time the Americans find out the legislation disappears....
Same thing here.. Let's wait until actual laws are passed before breaking out the steaks. - BeachSide, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Now if only the United States would learn a thing or two about fair use and its proper aplication"
Before you jump on the "The USA sucks" bandwagon you might want to RTFA.
Here in the USA we can already copy for personal use, legally (although that is being challenged in the higher courts and Congress).
Australia is actually the one catching up to the times and we are trying to take major steps back. - Gills, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3this means nothing really. no one cared about the law before, to the point where i bet most Aussies didn't even know it was illegal in the first place. IMO the govt is just relaxing the format shifting to take attention away from the harsher copyright infringement penalties they also added.
- fatsobob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am moving to Australia.
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Tha Australian government is being a good dog and, right on cue, is copying something the U.S. is doing. Grow some balls, Howard.
- deags, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Also people are forgetting Free Trade with the yanks..... there is no way those bloody americans will allow this :/
Seeing as our government are pussies they will fold and make laws worse because america said so :P. Piracy in australia is very rapidly growing. So it should if we buy most ***** legit it is just money going into the hands of other countries(which will screw us over anyway).
There will be no winning here for a while yet... Bandwidth prices are too high.. - mutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the free states of the southern hemisphere..... Arrrrrrrrrrr...
- MrGeneric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Bonza!
- krasht, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm glad that there is going to be a back flip in regards to these copyright laws. It was one of the most stupidist things ever conceived when it came into effect a few years back. Potentially fining people thousands of dollars for copying one bit of copyright material, that they owned by purchasing it, was just stupid. However, I have no idea if they ever enforced this crap. Good to see them cleaning up the legislation in regards to this.
- 12Volts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They went to Europe for the World Cup.
- crapbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah howard sux, we must be going insane to keep him in office. The only one with balls to stand up to bush was latham, sadly he's out of the picture.
Americans come and migrate to Australia, it's good here.... for a while..... then we'll think of where to move next. Canada, Venezuela, Switzerland? - deags, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Australians download the most TV per person only 2nd to the UK
- vernsan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What ever happened to South America?
- auhsor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe this has something to do with the TV here being pretty bad, and that we usually get shows 6 months - 1 year after the US.
- MrPhelps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"MUSIC fans will be able to legally record their CD collections onto iPods and MP3 players under a raft of proposed changes to Federal Government copyright laws."
Wait ... this means it is illegal to do this in Australia ? And they don't even have big music majors ... I don't get it. - brickbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Werd.
- Xiol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Aye, definately.
I regularly download Lost season 2 (which has only just started here in the UK) and season 4 of Family Guy, which I think a few episodes have been shown but not as many as the US have. - youmustagree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1looks like Australia really is relaxing its copyright laws
"Federal cabinet agreed to make sweeping changes to copyright laws..."
but
"The Government will increase surveillance and fines on internet piracy."
from
http://digg.com/music/Transferring_music_ruled_legal_(in_Australia) - deags, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4you spelt aussie wrong probably that is just how yanks pronounce it basically
Assies or Ass-e's
should sound like ozzy (with a real o sound not a a sound) afaik - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@BeachSide:
RTFA or not, the USA still sucks - bigkm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know a person in this country who honestly gives a crap about this law anyway, so making it legal will make know difference at all, people don't even think twice if when they import a cd into itunes, hell i used to make a copy of all my cd's for playing in my car, that way if they were stolen or damaged the originals were sweet. and almost ever household has a VCR and everyone tapes shows when they can't be there to watch it. Making this legal is something They Should Of Done A Long Time Ago.
- wiz0rian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I might buy a VCR now :)
- 12Volts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know about the US - but no cop down under is going to waste their time busting anyone for a copied CD. What the law says doesn't really matter if most people don't respect it. I don't know anyone who hasn't copied a CD to their computer.
- judstinator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3im pretty happy about it. Im an Australian and couldn't be happier!
- Zidane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I would rather him than beazley
- lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When everyone is a criminal, no one is safe.
- pHr34kY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All sounds good :)
Piracy is BARELY enforced down in Australia anyway. You get the odd police swoop at computer markets, but I've never heard of anyone ever getting into trouble for making a personal copy.
You pretty much need to make a business from it before the police crack down on you.
This won't make much difference, however it would be nice if this led to relaxed DRM. As a linux user, DRM makes my life a misery. - Zidane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1we are like 4 seasons behind on stargate an they wonder why we are downloading it! :P
- Zidane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OI OI OI!!!
- 12Volts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I bet Wendell Sailor wishes Cocaine was legal. http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/sailor-staggered-by-positive-drug-test/2006/05/14/1147545208994.html
- w8less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Mexico had considered decriminalizing pot, cocaine, heroine, LSD, extasy and other hard narcotics in "personal use" quantities. Also, its not only American companies that control such copy legislations, its Sony and other multinational companies that excersize their need for greed and put customer satisfaction on the back burner.
- MarkT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Please ensure that you understand the announcement. If anything, the laws are being tightened. The fair use provision is more restricted than under the US legislation, and we are adopting tougher enforcement, even if it does include on-the-spot fines. You can only watch time-shifted copyright material once, and you must own a copy of copyrighted material to device-switch. Read the full announcement at www.ag.gov.au under press releases. I will wait until I see the legislation before I decide if it is good or bad - because it must be consistent with the AUSFTA and hence endorsed by the US congress. Don't think that it is the end of copyright, it is just the beginning of copyright in perpetuity.
- Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Inaccurate. The FTA will bind Australia to America's repressive new technology laws. Aussies aren't that smart.
- ardent11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Look how ***** up Latham is now though, and yeah Beazley is a loser too, like Howard isn't the best, but better than those two, need someone new.
- zyopski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This means nothing - As I understand it, The proposed policy change updates a law where it was considered illegal to transfer music cd's or video tapes to a digital device that were already owned in physical form by the individual. Ie: from CD to Ipod. Nothing more. Ruddock is a hard ass, and is more than likely refining the laws to ensure that those breaking the law can and will be prosecuted. This guy is not known to be soft on anything under his control - No doubt piracy is next. He is the sort of politician that would gladly lock up all the parents and their kids who use systems like BT or other forms for P2P so as to please the USA whom Australia now has a free trade agreement and close ties to now. This is the same guy that banned that graffiti game getting up a few months back. I wouldnt bank on his compassion.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0my point was that if people do this already without worrying or facing prosecution it's a pointless law to bring in.
- Fergy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2 -----
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2I don't see the point in this story, they are only allowing Australians to copy CDs to MP3 players and record TV shows off the TV, which I can do both at the moment in the UK without worrying, hardly a major change in law.
- cawk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+0i think they already have this in japan
- TomP, on 10/12/2007, -28/+4That will never happen...well while bush is in power
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