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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24how do we bring down RIAA? Collectively, as a digg community.
- grevvvvvv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19"Conclusion
This case fails to answer one critical question: How is a content-neutral search engine to be held liable for contributory infringement? The best that the plaintiffs did was point to the Napster case. But Napster was not merely a search engine --- it was also a file transfer utility and file sharing server. Wake-like tools provide only search functions. Plaintiffs must explain why they chose to ignore the alleged direct infringers who used the engine, to bypass University's DMCA-standard complaint-filing system, and go after the engine's alleged operator on the grounds of contributory infringement. Plaintiffs must further explain how Wake's alleged contributory infringement falls outside the "safe harbor" provided to search engines by the DMCA." - wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Hi. You just used our copyrighted and tradmarked name in an unauthorized manner. We're suing for 150,000, but we'll settle for 5500. Pay up.
Your friends at the RIAA. - riaanc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11According to the RIAA it is now illegal to read ID3 tags and metadata of all copyrighted material. Next you'll probably have to pay a royalty for writing the name of any band on a piece of paper.
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7TFA is quite well thought out, scholarly, and thorough. The main point is that all Peng was doing is cataloging ALL shared files on the network. It did not, in and of itself, do any sharing (done via standard networking), and there could be many concievable non infringing uses (sharing notes, presentations, class materials, etc). If one wanted a flood of results, you could have just used the Windows search and search all network computers for *.mp3,, *.aac, and *.wma. It would have unleashed a flood of results, but the results would have been the same.
- rabidgnome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm surprised that the RIAA has never come under DDoS attack
If there's anybody nerds are pissed at - it's the RIAA - fredsterss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8FU$K THE RIAA!
- IMustBeEmo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We could do another one of those "Make GHF pay for their bandwidth!" things.
Because Digg effect != DDoS
=D - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5
Our records indicate you have recently: paid for a song, listened to a song, thought about a song, not owned a computer but still managed to download songs, been dead for a year and manged to pirate songs, or no reason at all (we dont need valid reasons, we are the RIAA, guilty until proven guilty because we are above the law). Please pay $4,500 to us so we can continue suing customers, just like yourself, for even more money, all the while not doing a thing about real pirates making millions selling bootleg cds. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This includes the elevendy billion dollar charge every time you listen, heck lets make it if you even think about a song. Music wasn't made to be listened to, it was made so we can charge obscene amounts to artists, infect songs with drm then sue customers for more money becuase we are a bunch of greedy bastards.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you want to bring them down you have to hurt the major record labels Sony BMG, Universal, EMI, and Warner. The only ways to hurt them is convince congress to stop listening to their lobbyist and repeal portions of the DMCA, undo the Sonny Bono copyright extension act etc, and pass legislation to restore the balance in copyright. That seems unlikely cause most of our congress critters are corrupt as hell and have no incentive to fix the system unless enough people get pissed and threaten to take them out of office. We also have Howard "Hollywood" Berman (response for the bill that would have let Hollywood hack your computer) chairing the committee response for intellectual property.
That pretty much leaves not buying into services and products that support the previously mentioned labels. It also means not pirating their content, cause that just gives them fodder to lobby congress for more restrictive laws. There have been calls for boycotts in the past, but none have gained much traction, cause people are lazy and like convenience and mediocrity.
BoingBoing linked to an interesting talk by Lawrence Lessig
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/01/03/lessigs_stunning_23c.html - SPRFRKR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2having been on the pton campus network, i can attest, people share everything on that thing. A lot of people have their C: shared will full rights. Tons of movies and music. Had to have clamped down since 2001 since I've been there.
- Zaire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2need I say anymore lol http://youtube.com/watch?v=SnLB8wysMbY
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I'm surprised that the RIAA has never come under DDoS attack"
Who says they haven't? I bet they've had at least a couple major DDoS attacks to their servers. - hicamel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's pretty easy. Just don't buy their product.
Changing the subject ...
I like how on the DVD's they say "You wouldn't steal a car would you?" Well ... I might not, but I would definitely steal a COPY of a car if there were such a thing. Their logic is flawed. - sennmen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You have to remember though, that they are doing it for the artists!
- PURDooM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just read the whole thing, and I was amazed at how the RIAA's lawsuit sounded like they were pleading. The kid is 1 person not making any money, and the large organization claims that the kid is causing them grave and serious pain, and they pray that he gets sued. Wow, what a nice charitable organization... those people really know how to treat fans.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2whoops... I am in the process of creating a similar program for my university campus because "regular" P2P is banned. Guess I should read this article carefully .. (what about iTunes sharing, by the way??)
- selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So basically, if I lived next to some store, and had some bricks sitting next to my house, which somebody then uses to break a window and steal stuff from the store... Its my fault for providing the bricks?
I understand if I'm stealing stuff from the store too(which he was sharing downloading illegally), but providing the tool is a crazy thing to go after someone for. - Matri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What fans? They see us as walking wallets begging to be milked dry.
I've read the article. They never touched on the subject of whether the kid was actually illegally sharing the music, so he could be guilty. However, that's only secondary next to the way the MafIAA worded the charges. From the way they put it, you'd be forgiven for thinking he's the anti-christ.
One thing this make clear, though. The RIAA is NOT ignorant of the way file-sharing and the internet works. Instead they're counting on the judge to be ignorant. I consider myself somewhat savvy, but had I read only the their document I would have believed them too. But once I found out how they were sharing files the RIAA's argument fell to pieces. Like it says, you can only access the files if you were a part of the workgroup AND be physically connected to the LAN. Otherwise you're blocked.
And if I were connected to such a large network too, I'd appreciate a service like wake. It's a royal pain to search for files. Manually searching for files over a network isn't exactly the fastest operation to perform. - SirRat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder if anyone at RIAA ever thought that if they hadn't filed that first lawsuit against napster, It would just be a bunch of geeks downloading. It seems like they can't get it into their head to stop advertising the next generation of filesharing.
- jbond, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Put these together
- Music is one of the most searched items on Google
- Google knows about a lot of MP3s on the nets
- Google knows how to read the ID3 tags in MP3s
So Google could index all those MP3s and allow you to search on things like bitrate.
Now I can think of all sorts of reasons why Google doesn't currently do that. But somebody could. In fact somebody should.
Next stop, metadata in video leading to better video search. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1jimchristianx has the right idea, as a digg community, we should all be collectively, and actively influencing all restrictive and prohibitive and censor based agencies that govern our rights to information and entertainment, its like copwatch, but on a larger than international level, a intergalactic monitoring system to police "the police".
- heaintheavy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5OfficeMax today, RIAA tomorrow and Mars after that!
Go Digg go! - JimDinger, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2just start hammering there site.
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