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- frem001, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37the best way to support your favorite artist is to see them in concert, they earn more from touring.
- abeg, on 10/12/2007, -9/+31sorry.. i hate to be a digg police but it been around for at least 2 months and even posted here on digg.. i know cause i was going to post but seen someone else posted
http://digg.com/music/allTunes_-_The_new_way_to_shop_AllOfMp3.com
http://digg.com/music/allTunes_-_AllOfMP3_s_Downloadable_Program_Store
i like it its better then the all of mp3 explorer - burnt1ce85, on 10/12/2007, -8/+29Attention AllOfMp3 just released AllPod Video and AllPod nano. They will sale at $20 and $35 which is just 1/10th the price of our competitors!
- rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Buying CDs hardly supports the artist. It supports their lawyers, their record label, the RIAA, RIAA lawyers/lobbyists... etc...
- deut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23@neuroelectronic
That statement was pure bollox you RIAA stooge. Why don't you read the 282 digg comments that say otherwise...
http://www.digg.com/music/Russian_MP3_download_sites_..._not_so_cheap_after_all_
you ass-wipe. - jeromeerome, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Direct link if your not interested in the story: http://www.alltunes.com/en-index.shtml
- stark23x, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19They recently won a legal challenge. They are 100% legal in Russia.
As for the program...it's a much nicer interface that the old Explorer utility. - seanalltogether, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13oh yeah ,and allofmp3 does support the artists
"The Music Industry claims that Allofmp3 is illegal. Their opinion is that recorded music has three sets of rights. The songwriter has the copyright to the song, the artist his own rights in it, and the record label and producers a third set. Allofmp3 is paying the songwriters, via the collection agency ROMS, but they are acting without the permission of the other copyright holders." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13If you want to support your favourite artists, just send them a cheque!
They get bugger all from the studios when you buy a CD, and even less when you download a track via iTunes etc. - kevogod, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16The service is legal in Russia and U.S. import laws make the songs downloaded from the service, legal in the U.S.
Read http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm - Agraek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Allofmp3 does not use any protection on their songs. You basically are just paying for the bandwidth cost. The site is definately legal in Russia, and here, it's quasi-legal.
- seanalltogether, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"It's legal in russia (and only through a loop hole in the law), not sure if it's still legal if you download music and you're in the US... anyone know?"
Remember, its only illegal to download something IF its illegal to POSSESS it (ie: child porn). Possessing mp3's is not illegal. However, DISTRIBUTING mp3 that you dont own the copyright to is illegal in the USA, hence the lawsuits by the riaa. - xtracto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9No, you are wrong.
allofmp3 is NOT illegal in Russia, they pay the fees they HAVE to pay to distribute the songs (that the fees are low is problem of the law but they are not breaking it).
And also from
http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000602----000-.html
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Importation, for the PRIVATE USE OF THE IMPORTER and not for distribution, by any person with respect to no more than one copy or phonorecord of any one work at any one time, or by any person arriving from outside the United States with respect to copies or phonorecords forming part of such person’s personal baggage.
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In a case where the copies or phonorecords were lawfully made, the United States Customs Service has no authority to prevent their importation
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So, you see, the phone record was "produced" under the law in Russia and you import it when you download it (as they are sending *you* the bytes).
Anyways, I have talked to a lawyer and friend of mine and told me it is legal at least for Mexico =o).
And IIRC the illegal thing of the p2p networks is not the downloading side BUT the distribution, you should check the information of the RIAA lawsuits (the actual information not the press reviews). - jhowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10You can get most different formats / bitrates. There's no drm either.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12They have been to court and won. As the law stands now it is legal. This took place over a year ago. Some money does go to the artist, not much, as you don't pay much, but there is still some.
They use a small loophole in Russian law, they aren't the only one using it, they are just the most well known. The loophole hasn't been closed so they can remain open.
as was said before, if you want to support the band, go to concerts, buy merchandise, or just donate to them if that is somehow possible - wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7are you sure you weren't a phising victim?
- AngryShroom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9they havent taken paypal in years
- caudron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I read comments saying essentially, "Sure it's legal in Russia, but it's not legal or only quasi-legal in the US".
I want to clarify something. It is 100% legal in the US. We have no extant law that directly covers these sorts of sales and no case law that addresses the issue. Until either Congress changes extant laws to directly address the AllOfMP3 business model or until a judge somewhere in the US decided to extend an existing law to cover said business model, it is most certainly quite legal.
Look at it differently. They aren't hiding. This isn't some hax0r super-secret. It's an open business actively soliciting for American customers. The RIAA knows about them, and has even looked into the business model for a way to attack it. They've complained to the US government and to the Russian government. But ask yourself why the RIAA hasn't sued 1 single AllOfMP3 customer or AllOfMP3 themselves. Why? Because THEY DO NOT HAVE AN ANGLE OF ATTACK.
Quasi legal? Illegal? Both those would be an RIAA wet dream. No, the reality is that until the laws are changed, it's perfectly legal and if the RIAA were to attack the company, they'd end up both losing and drawing attention to the company to boot. Those are two things they do not want.
Tom Caudron
http://tom.digitalelite.com - frem001, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9It's legal in russia (and only through a loop hole in the law), not sure if it's still legal if you download music and you're in the US... anyone know?
- WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Need a Mac version here... Won't anyone think of the Mac users? Some of us still think the iTMS sucks ass...
- codyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah concerts make the artists big money. I mean, the Rolling Stones (aka The Tomb Stones these days) just received $150 bucks from me last November and The Scorpions received 65 from me in July.
- justinbaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6you can get quality as high as you want
- w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If this is your first night at digg, you have to digg.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5that's the second rule.
- zaxxon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Your credit card details are safe. Payment is processed by Chronopay in Holland (Visa/Mastercard certified) so the number does not go to the Russians. I have never had a problem in over a year of using it. If you think about it, its not in AllOfMP3's interests to allow card fraud, they would be out of business in no time once word got out.
- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Not sure I really get your meaning, but if you are referring to the using mp3 format, that isn't all they support. You can choose at purchase time whether you want your file as an mp3, ogg, flac, or some other file format. You can also choose from several bitrates. Of course the price goes up with the higher bitrates, but still, 3 bucks a CD is a good price.
- Mads, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"quasi-legal"
lol...is that legal? - topnotchnet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4https://www.greendotonline.com/AcctMgmt/Content/Common/AddFunds/RetailLocator.aspx?siteid=mymccard
if your really concerned about credit card purchases head to walgreens,cvs,rite aid they sell prepaid credit cards for that sort of thing
& lol "gateway to hell"
if theres hell below we all gonna go and i doubt it will be for downloading music
it'll be for being living the american way - selfish, corrupt, & greedy - RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Goddammit people! The first rule of AllofMP3 is nobody talks about AllofMP3!
- kotatsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Link please to proof about this mafia connection you mentioned.
- kendawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4very good point. i still have a balance left in my account that's running out (i used paypal), but i was afraid to add any more money now because i can only use a credit card. you're right in that if they were into the fraud stuff, the stories would be ALL OVER.
- w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4vipeness has this site listed as his on his profile:
http://www.headtraumarecords.com
wonder if his label's music is being sold on there. - THX-7168, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am replying to "jeromeerome" only because this comment should be at the top of this page. This is not a reply to jerom's comment.
1. This is months old.
2. This has already been submitted to digg many times.
3. "Launces" ?
4. It gets +800 diggs (most likely because Kevin Rose dugg it.
http://digg.com/music/Internet-Audit_LLS_allTunes_from_allofMP3.com
http://digg.com/music/allTunes_-_AllOfMP3_s_Downloadable_Program_Store
http://digg.com/music/allTunes_-_The_new_way_to_shop_AllOfMp3.com
http://digg.com/music/Cheap_Music_Site_Allofmp3.com_-_Re-brands,_and_releases_new_download_Client
http://digg.com/music/iTunes_--_Russian_Style
And I am sure that there are many more duplicates that I didn't find.
http://digg.com/music/allTunes_-_The_new_way_to_shop_AllOfMp3.com
This is the oldest one I found and it is from 60 days ago.
I don't mean to be a dupe-Nazi but come on SEARCH before you submit.
-Digg; Reported as Duplicated Story - verres, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4since this is a reason of debate for so many people, here we go again:
1.) AllOfMp3 is legal in Russia - they are "exploiting" a glitch in the local copyright law - a passage from a long time ago that specifies a fixed amount of cash (laughably low by western standards) has to be paid for "public grammophone playing", and they got the idea that what they do is similar in concept through in a Russian court.
2.) In Russia, a new, legal, shop-bought music cd costs 2-3 Euros (Convert that to the currency of your choice, I can't be arsed), so for Russians, they are not all that cheap, but for everyone living in the west, it's only a tiny percentage of what one would pay here.
3.) I've been a customer with AllOfMp3 for over a year now, filled my account with about 70 Euros via credit card, and never had even a hint of a problem - all payments were processed in seconds, appeared clearly on my bill, and there was never a "mystery amount" on my cc statement anywhere.
About the only downside I can find is that many songs are not ID3-tagged correctly. - brenthals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I hear ya, I love Allofmp3, but release a Mac version already.
- w0rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been told that they do if you request it via email. It goes through another site that processes their money.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For those interested, I spent $5 at AllofMP3 a couple of years ago and got a lot of bang for my buck. I got 3.5 albums plus some singles for those few dollars, plus it let me choose from a wide variety of formats and bitrates. The directories were poorly organized but I still found all kinds of great stuff. I was very happy with my AllofMP3 experience. And no DRM!
- RubberbandLN6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Honestly the moral value just does not match up with the economic value of using allofmp3. If I were to buy 30 songs through Itunes or any other legal service, it would cost me $30. On the other hand, if I were to buy 30 songs using allofmp3, it would cost me about $3 or so. To me, my wallet is more important than my ethical sympathy for the artists.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3there is now law or ruling in america against it. ignorance under the law. its legal enough until someone decided to do something about it
personally i think the RIAA's tactics are more illegal then any actions taken by ones they are trying to prosecute
you pay, artists get money. that seems to be what everyone wants. artists don't see a dime either way, its just big business that has been bending everyone over the table for years and stealing your money that will lose a few cents.
i haven't used the site, but have been watching it for 3 years. while its shady as all hell i think you could argue its legality if need be - mpeters13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is been publically available for about a week now. Has anyone tried it out??? It's a FAR better upgrade compared to the All of MP3 explorer progrum they were offering befoor.
- aspirinetu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3why not? or even better: why should i trust in an US based one?
- redivider, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's really sad that it's come to this. I've been in a band for 11 years now... our latest album is on a non-RIAA independent label. Our music is available worldwide on all the major digital music stores. When people buy our CDs or download our music through these services, we *do* make money. Quite a bit actually. And there are a lot of other artists in our situation.
All this misinformation about how no artists ever make money from CD sales is ***** and is just an excuse to make people feel better about downloading music for free. There are other ways of supporting artists... merchandise, concerts, donations, etc, but for certain artists, buy a CD is still the best way to go. Newer artists can't afford to tour or start their own merchandise company without making some money first. You can always support the band that comes from your hometown, but in this day and age you can become a fna of a new band from thousands of miles away, with no hope of being able to ever see them live because everyone wants to get their music for free.
You would be correct in saying that there are a lot of artists who make little to nothing from CD sales. Most of them are on major labels who pay low royalty rates and spend millions in marketing and radio promotion and then force the artist to pay back everything, only using the amount they get from royalties. Needless to say the only way to make money in this situation is to either sell millions of albums or somehow convince the label to not spend millions of dollars up front.
This is obviously a bad position to be in, and I can understand why people don't want to give their money to RIAA-affiliated labels. But there are a lot of artists who are in a much better situation but are being hurt by the fact that everyone seems to think that buying CDs is pointless in every case.
Before you decide to buy from allofMP3 or download stuff for free, do a little homework and make sure you're not screwing over an artist who you would be supporting by actually paying for the music. - Asystole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ethics isn't even a problem here, at least to me. By buying from iTunes or a similar service (hell, even by buying CDs) you're not supporting the artists at all, you're supporting the corrupt record executives.
- comradevik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i've been using allTunes for 3 weeks now. its so much better then the previous "allofmp3 explorer"
- dylan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been using allTunes for a few weeks now and I love it. It's faster than actually browsing the AllOfMP3 website itself as the entire catalogue is downloaded to your computer so searches are lightning fast. It also find my downloads with the program are a lot faster than through my browser. Great software.
As for the people saying why would you use this service, I do so because I know I can download music at the quality I can select myself and I know it is high quality and real, unlike the fakes and poor quality encodings you can see on P2P nowadays. - drewh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The point is convenience. I'd rather go to allofmp3 and pay $10 every now and then rather than searching through dying torrents for what I want in the file type/bitrate I need it in.
- iMactel, on 10/12/2007, -14/+16The title should be changed to "Launches" instead of Launces.
- Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9I have been using alltunes for a month or so now. :P I wish I was smart enough to submit it to digg first, haha.
- DrGonzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You and me both. Figured someone else would have already posted it, so why bother eh?
- cenz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Alltunes software is also available for some mobile devices:
Nokia 6600/6620/6630/6670/6680/6681/6682/7610/N70/N90
Sony Ericsson P900/P910
Motorola A1000
Java and WinMobile version will be released in April!
This means downloading music for their internet music store straight to your mobile phone for very low prices when compared to the cost of cellphone ring tones!
http://alltunes.com/en-mobile.shtml -
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