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- nick4342, on 10/11/2007, -0/+32this is not "inside the world of allofmp3", it deals with people buying and reselling gift certificates to use the site
- Jacob, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19the thing is allofmp3 is legal, that's right 100% legal. The record companies don't want money from them because that would be legetimizing allofmp3 (even though it's already legal many people consider it not, mainly due to ignorance of international law).
- mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15"A look inside the world of AllOfMP3" VOUCHERS
- loganhuddleston, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14bit torrent still accepts most major credit cards.
- kethraal, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14"except for how illegal downloading is illegal and allofmp3 is legal not to mention dirt cheap especially compared to other legal ways of getting it."
Sigh.
This has been covered on digg _numerous_ times, but for your benefit, let's go over it one more time:
1) AllOfMP3.com has a licensing agreement with ROMS. ROMS licenses radio stations, and other "broadcast services" in Russia.
2) ROMS licensees pays ROMS money in exchange for the right to transmit the songs. ROMS is responsible for paying those license fees to the copyright holders (or their representatives, i.e. the RIAA).
3) Due to a loophole in Russian law, AllOfMP3.com qualifies as a broadcaster, and thus distribute music legally, under the terms of their ROMS license (provided that they pay ROMS, which they do.)
4) The RIAA has been told that the fees held by ROMS are available to them as soon as they ask.
5) The RIAA has, to date, not asked ROMS for the license fees.
AllOfMP3.com has _also_ (although in no way obligated to do so) paid many of the artists directly, out of their own expenses, since the RIAA seems to be reluctant to collect the cash on the artist's behalf.
AllOfMP3.com is a legal Russian business, and is legal for Russians to use. It may be allowed for US citizens to use, if US laws on importing are interpreted to cover the importation of "digital goods" via the internet. That's beside the point, however, since the laws governing US citizens do not change the legal status of the site.
The RIAA knows that they could, at any time, ask ROMS to release the license fees -- but to do so would undermine their FUD campaign against the site. They probably were hoping that AllOfMP3.com would settle the recent suit out of court. Since MediaServices (the company that runs AllOfMP3.com) has more or less given the finger to the RIAA (they correctly pointed out that a suit filed under the US legal system is inapplicable in Russia,) the RIAA has begun bullying/bribing payment providers to give the cold shoulder to AllOfMP3.com. This has met with some success -- Chronopay and others have dropped MediaService from their client list.
So far, the RIAA has not only lied about the legality of AllOfMP3, but have also begun to utilize monopolistic tactics to strong-arm various organizations into hindering AllOfMP3's legal operations.
So please, before you accuse MediaServices of being a bunch of pirates, why not read up on the issue first.... - nblsavage, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13@harythewho, allofmp3.com has tried more than once to give the record labels payment. They have refused. The record labels would rather see them shut down.
- xXShadowstormXx, on 10/11/2007, -7/+15@DiggSucksAssOK (#6841649)
Amorak > iTunes.
eMusic > iTunes. - Bossy, on 10/11/2007, -12/+20***** the RIAA
- Herolint, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@geekee
Since when is it illegal to go to foreign countries for better pricing? Corporations do it all the time. They call it outsourcing.
My understanding is that AllofMP3 is abiding by Russian law. As long as that is the case, I'm more that comfortable taking my business to a country with lower prices (whether it be physically or via the internet).
Morally, it can't be both ways. American corporations can't run to India, Russia, etc. to get cheaper labor and then demand that consumers buy from them and nowhere else. - Gunite, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7"I never really understood why people buy from AllofMP3" ... (instead of using BitTorrent)
Because, from a layman's point of view
1. AllofMP3 is legal, BitTorrent is not
2. AllofMP3 is easy to use, BitTorrent is not (what client to use, how to use, etc.)
3. AllofMP3 is faster than BitTorrent (time to find song and then download version in desired quality)
4. AllofMP3's selection is big enough to not make it an issue
5. Can can preview songs to find new stuff you like
6. BitTorrent and clients have security issues - BrokenImage, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@ PueSi
AllOfMP3 pays its royalties to ROMS, which is from where artists are supposed to get their share. However the RIAA refuses to take the money, because the RIAA would then be legitimizing the practice.
@SteveCube
AllOfMP3 does in fact have FLAC, it's just not available for all albums.
@twasi
Reference above about paying artists. The reason I, and I'm sure many other people use(d) AllOfMP3 is due to the following reasons:
1- AllTunes was great for browsing through music. The first screen showed all the albums they just added that day. They had about 10 different charts showing the top 50 and top 100 making it easy to find what was hot.
2- You had a huge amount of choice when downloading. 160-320 kbps variable or constant bitrate, FLAC, and others.
3- Previews. After spending I think your first $10.00, you could preview the entire song before downloading.
4- Easy to search through different genres and see what just came out. Then, preview the songs, and download what you liked. With torrents, you have to know what you're looking for before downloading it.
With AllOfMp3 you could browse and preview all the songs, and just download what you liked.
5- Price. OK, so it isn't free. However 15 cents a song hardly breaks the bank. It's basically a money and time thing. It took me 3 days download an album on a torrent. I only found one torrent after looking through 5 different torrent search sites. No one was seeding. Not only that, it was crappy quality. Not two weeks later, AllOfMp3 put it up. I got it at the bitrate I wanted, and it took about 15 minutes.
About three weeks ago AllOfMp3 opened up MP3Sparks. However, it is no longer taking credit card payments either :/ .
AllOfMP3 I'll miss you ;( . - TheBigBad, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6...and if you don't have a major credit card, meh, no worries. :)
- Jacob, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7except for how illegal downloading is illegal and allofmp3 is legal not to mention dirt cheap especially compared to other legal ways of getting it. Sure it's a jackass move to buy the music knowing full well that none of the profits are going to go to the band/artist but hey legal is legal my friend.
- Twasi, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9I never really understood why people buy from AllofMP3, none of the money goes to the artists so that is sort of a moot point. I've never used it, I'd rather just download my albums off of BitTorrent and single tracks off of P2P instead of paying someone for essentially the same product.
- iDanny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3This is a sad state we are living in. The recoding studios hate us so much, believing that we are all music pirating thieves. I WANT DRM FREE MUSIC!! I WILL PAY FOR IT. Just let me do what I want to it when I buy it. I paid for it, IT IS MINE!! If you buy a computer; Apple, Dell, Gateway, HP, Sony, etc... They don't tell you what you can do with your computer. When you pay for it, ITS YOURS!
RIAA and MPAA please STOP TREATING YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE THIEVES AND RESPECT THEM! ! ! - mitrovarr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yeah, DRM is what keeps me off the major music sites. I have mp3s that are around 10 years old and they work perfectly on any computer or digital music player. Will stuff support any given DRM format in 10 years? Who knows? Will DRM'd files work on any digital media device without hassles or incompatibilities? Nope. What if I decide to switch to Linux? All gone.
I do not want to mess around with files that insert artificial limitations and have an unknown life span. What if the service goes dead in a couple of years and the player software goes obsolete on the next OS up the road? What if it becomes unpopular and no mp3 players support it anymore? Plus, no service is absolutely complete and perfect, so you'd need more than one. I absolutely refuse under any circumstances to deal with a music collection that is fractionated between several kinds of file types, each with their own limitations, quality, tagging issues, and device requirements. That's musical hell.
Give me Mp3s or something I can convert freely to 192vbr mp3s, or get the hell out. - Thundercat1971, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Better that allofmp3.com should get the money rather than RIAA. Either way, the artist gets nothing.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3If iTunes did all of that then I would use it in a heartbeat.
- luvs2spooge, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Private bit torrent trackers.
You should look into getting an invite to one. - moltar2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I use AllOfMP3 because of the convinience factor, plus I really dislike iTunes software.
- MScrip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2> "I never really understood why people buy from AllofMP3"
Well, they do. The consumers are in charge. If people are willing to pay for the product... there must be something to it.
People want competitive pricing, and files in the format they choose. AllofMP3 did that.
I was hoping that Napster, P2P, torrents and AllofMP3 would send a message to the music industry. But they aren't listening. Apple is at least trying... with DRM free music. But, $0.99-$1.29 is still too high. - hfranco, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2http://blogs.allofmp3.com/allofmp3/2007/05/23/ifpi-opens-an-allofmp3-office-in-london/
- fox, on 04/11/2009, -0/+1haha, ironically enough, I just recieved an email from the site i got my voucher from. They said it was the last opportunity to get one.
o well, i got enough on the site to last me awhile now. - uriahsky, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I was reading a reply by the Russian government a short while ago and they said they didn't want to stop Allofmp3.com because most of their citizens can't afford $ .99 a song. The price ITunes charges. That is the main reason why I buy from them. I can't believe there are millions of people paying a buck a song. It is just not worth it. Especially most albums where maybe there are two or three good songs from the whole CD. Also, Allofmp3 has great support, the music is organized and you don't have to change any of the id tags that are usually messed up on P2P sites and you can choose what quality you want. At a high bit rate you can pay $3-$5.00 an album which is almost too much for me...
- abhiroop, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2allofmp3 is a great site to find discographies, their really clear and well set out, plus you can see the track lengths (in case you have a remixed version)
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@ Thundercat1971
You make a good point. An innacurate point, but concise and well-worded nonetheless. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11. AllofMP3 is legal, BitTorrent is not -> BitTorrent itself is perfectly legal! Its just a protocol to exchange data, its the data that must not be distributed
2. AllofMP3 is easy to use, BitTorrent is not (what client to use, how to use, etc.) -> Agree. Many people who are not into computers don't like BT (Port forwarding wtf?)
3. AllofMP3 is faster than BitTorrent (time to find song and then download version in desired quality) -> A few months ago I saw how long it took for AllOfMP3 to encode a certain track, it was about 30 minutes. Don't know if the situation has changed, but i.e. Oink offers great download speeds, you can often download an entire album in under 10 minutes there.
5. Can can preview songs to find new stuff you like -> That's nice indeed.
6. BitTorrent and clients have security issues -> Submitting your credit card info to a third party company in Russia is of course no security issue, I see.
Do not get me wrong here, AllOfMP3 is great, but so is BitTorrent.
Edit: Arrr, didn't see the layman part. Sorry dude! - revenge7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I buy (well, bought) music from AllOfMP3 because I could buy music really cheap, but mostly because they had such an awesome encoding system. You could buy songs in different formats, and different bitrates. I don't know of any other site without DRM that does the same thing.
If I had to pay twice as much for the artist to get paid, I would do so. But there is no site that offers that option. So AllOfMP3 is the next best thing. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0allofmp1.com- review of all russian alternative
- DJarmand, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The iTunes store no longer uses DRM protections on it's songs. However, the price rised with 20-30 cents / track.
AllOfMP3 was a nice thing to have on the internet, too bad the big sharks brought it down. - gogh102, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0this is quite a frustrating fact of allofmp3 outta business.
But a one good new.
i reviewed couple of alternatives as it was suggested and http://hubpages.com/hub/russianmp3site between them.
Well. i was stunned. they do claim they have more than 2 200 000 tracks online and that seems to be true! i’m a house addicted person and i could find almost all in their search (you know it quite hard to browse all their stuff).
guys do accept cards and i had no probs while paying some to my account there.
take a look there and letme know your opinion. - PueSi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Yes no kidding, they are the same as the RIAA they make money they don't deserve out of the artists. The only reason i would pay to some service like that would be if i couldn't find the songs and i seriously doubt that allofmymp3 has something that Soulseek+Bittorrent doesn't.
- L00ker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Personally the reason why some might want to download from allofmp3 is obvious to me, if I intend on downloading music, I would prefer it to be all from the same rip, so that the quality of the rip is uniform throughout the album (i.e all tracks are ripped at whatever bit rate) whereas if you P2P the music some tracks might be 128 others 192 or 256. Personally for any 1 album I like the tracks to be all from the same rip and of similar (if not identical) quality, furthermore when Jay-Z isn't riding on 24's in his $500,000 bently then I will believe that the recording industry is "suffering".... I love being american and I definetly think america is a great country to be in (although we certainly have our flaws as a culture) but it is a country ruled by greed and I refuse to pour my money into feeding that greed. go ahead RIAA hunt me down I got something special just for you!
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3They should be scared. Not just of the police, but of running afoul of payment gateways and visa/mastercard/amex/etc as well.
AllOfMp3 was always questionable, but I'm sure there could have been some compromise that would have kept it alive and sustainable.
Oh well. - fox, on 04/11/2009, -2/+1works good. I submitted a site that does just this to digg a couple weeks ago.
- SteveCUBE, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Basically, either you can pirate the music, or buy from AllofMP3(which all the money goes to them). I'd rather skip the middle man and get it myself. But, I buy CDs and vinyl so it really doesn't effect me unless my CD is scratched and I look for a FLAC torrent. (allofmp3 doesn't even have FLAC).
Oh and the title is misleading, no digg. - geekee, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5@jacob
allofmp3.com is not legal in the US since it violates US copyright law. End of story.
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