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- toekneebullard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+44Zach Braff has the awesome ability to tie life's laughs with life's sorrows so close together. Both Scrub and Garden States, whens the last time you saw anything that's so moving and so funny at the same damn time?
You can take almost any two movies and find similar shots in them. This whole thing is dumb. It's only natural for artists to create things that they relate to. Braff is in his 30's figuring out his life, thusly, you get art from him that relates to that. - deweyhewson, on 10/12/2007, -21/+58Spot on, although I think Garden State is one of the greatest films of this generation.
- DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30"'Twas a totally calculated, mercenary, soulless wreck of a film."
Sheesh, you make it sound like a Michael Bay film. - zengonzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24
This guy has just divined the formula for about one-fifth of all movies made.
How about a list on how to make a disaffected hipster blog:
1. Bitch about other disaffected hipsters.
2. Find something that nobody really thinks too much about AND HATE IT!
3. Analyze minute but general elements that indicate a pattern that proves your point.
4. Mock others for their lack of humor when they argue your points.
I think he's missing four, but I couldn't be bothered to scroll through the list of pointless comments.
5. Don't I have anything better to be doing? - SimonKay, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25I agree, but unlike Garden State Braff didn't write or direct this film.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22"You're one of those elitist movie snobs, aren't you?"
Nah, the movie just rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not a particularly voracious movie watcher, either. I'm just being honest about my feelings toward the film. The whole hipster angle is obviously debatable, but there were moments of the film were I got it confused with a Pitchforkmedia adspot. - DrDigg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Anyone else find the Jewess point a little awkward? Felt a little too Gibson for me.
- TheSaladMan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19It's sad because he's very good in Scrubs, but now he wants to leave it to make more films, if they're all gonna be like this I'm sure as hell not gonna see them.
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19I love scrubs, and I really liked Garden State, if this is anything like that, then I'm all up for seeing more...
- namelessted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Ok, Garden State was directed by Zach Braff and he is in it. But The Last Kiss is a remake of a foreign film. Its not like it is Braff's film. And look at Scrubs, that show is totally different than these two movies. And yes, Braff does direct some of the episodes of Scrubs.
- thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17This guy did a good job with the comparison. I'm sure, however, this could be done with any movie. Nicely done though.
On the other hand, Garden State was an excellent movie, and i like the artistic vibe the movies Braff acts in (or like Garden State, writes and directs) give off. - typo180, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8He sure had all two of those movies pegged didn't he? They weren't written or directed by the same person - and one hasn't been released yet. It's kinda funny, but is sort of unfounded.
- mtvkilledusall, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18You're one of those elitist movie snobs, aren't you?
- mtvkilledusall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Fair enough.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+20Extremely amusing. I wasn't a fan of Garden State (nice way of saying that I found it to be cloyingly obnoxious and a hipster vanity piece), but I'm sure that people that loved the movie can still appreciate the humor in this.
- eklass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5agreed. unfortunately, i couldn't figure out if "lame" or "inaccurate" was a better bury
- duketime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I initially liked Garden State also, but it got to me pretty quickly. Zach Braff seems to deem himself "underground" and a "culturemaker". Well, what's actually happening is he's trying pretty hard to be in with indie rock and his script captures early 20s ennui and he tosses in frivolous artist non-symbolism (okay, he's walking by a row of infrared faucets ... what does that even mean?) ... when in actuality the music he puts in (Death Cab, Snow Patrol) is actually relatively mainstream and what 20s ennui has Zach Braff suffered? He's a lawyer's kid that about popped a vein when his Porsche got trashed. Hey, I don't have a problem with his success and everything he's done (I can appreciate Scrubs, myself), but I do have a problem with phoniness, and he seems to me like kind of a phony.
Not to mention that Crash was probably the least subtle, most heavy-handed movie written in the past 10 years. I'll admit, Crash affected me, but only because it was *supposed* to. You could show me a video of kittens getting slaughtered and I'd be affected, but if it isn't to any end then what's the point? Crash presented all of these ideas that ... erm ... racism exists, even among police, even among minorities, and there it is! Throw in some happenstance to give you the idea that it could be your brother or uncle or something, don't present really any insight or solution or true revelation but still allow all the principles to come out looking like heroes and you've got an Oscar winner. As I said, I felt emotionally affected, but in a way that was manipulative.
My concern now is that filmmakers think so little of society that they feel like they ought to simply bludgeon the viewer with their moral and message (while movies like Brokeback take a human element and use *that* as a vehicle to illustrate the core issue). - sola, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Um... so a guy enjoys delving into similar themes in his works? Is it that bad?
Honestly, isn't that what makes certain people "great" at what they do? The ability to explore a theme or explore a skill deeper than most others. Tarantino does crazy-weird martial arts stuff. Wes Anderson and off-the wall humor. Michael Bay -- senseless action. I don't want Tarantino doing a romantic comedy (actually, on second thougt...) - zengonzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I don't think Jewess is quite the negative word you perceive it to be. Like Oriental, there are some who find it extremely offensive while others would use it self-referentially ..
The context is most important, in that case. Jew as a verb is offensive, while Jew as a noun is reasonable, unless you spit it out with hatred.
I was more annoyed by his description of 'white guilt' in the beginning, which seems naive. - billymachine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Absolutely! This guy is only digging himself a dissafected hole with his too-hip-to-be-a-hipster blog article. And I especially love the recursive, self-deprecating step five : )
- miken32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Natalie Portman: sugar-*****?
- mtvkilledusall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Scrubs is about to launch it's sixth season, and the producers are considering ending it with the possibility of Zach leaving to pursue his film career.
- ehmjay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6well I guess he did an alright job at finding screenshots that are similar - but heck I could do the same thing with a Hitchcock movie - and I would use more than two examples...and Hitchcock is a genius...but really most of his movies all are have the same basic elements. That's what makes them classics.
So this guy's argument really is unfounded - but he's entitled to his opinion.
Needless to say Garden State was one of the best films of the year (of its release) - and it's nice to see films that are actually ABOUT something, not based around a stupid gag like Little Man. - mhusson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Tarantino actually wrote an awesome romantic comedy/crime (his version of the genre) called True Romance. You should see it, its great: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108399/
- mtvkilledusall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yes. I feel the same way.
Pointing out their religion is pointless.
Natalie Portman's character in Garden State was _not_ identified as a Jew. - CheeseIsGood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If anyone actually bother to read zachbraff.com because they were curious about the sequal, they would realize that this movie is NOT Garden State II. That movie is slated to be made next year because not all people involved were available until then.
Also, look at the talent behind this film. Paul Haggis wrote the screenplay for Million Dollar Baby and Crash. Not quite your formulaic romantic comedy. - rassoodock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@deweyhewson: Calculated and formulated, or one of the best films of our generation? Which is it, buddy? ;) Actually, I thought Garden State was good, but not great. I can't allow myself to be so easily suckered in by "beautiful girl falls for nerdy socially inept guy and lives happily ever after" story anymore. This Hollywood cliche has been presented to many on one too many occassions to be applied to a truly "great" movie. Even if you add "emotionally troubled", "psychologically paralyzed within the framework of improbably life circumstances" to "guy" and "goofy", "jewish", "young", "quirky" and "Star Wars princess" to "girl", i'll bite but it's not going in my top 10. But, to paraphrase David Spade, I liked it more when it was called "True Romance."
- duketime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think one of the big things that's actually corrupting race relations in America (which are in a pretty sorry state) is that people seem to think that any mention of a "charged word" automatically makes people start calling racism.
As long as people feel like the issue needs to be treated with kids gloves, nobody will get far enough into an honest conversation to actually move the issue. The words, sure, are bad and can be hurtful, but the true corruption is the sentiment and the most dangerous thing for society isn't for somebody the say the N-word (or even for somebody to be openly prejudiced ... Avenue Q concedes everybody's racist to some extent), it's for somebody to be privately prejudiced, and let it affect the way you act and society in a way that can't easily be diagnosed and treated.
All it takes is somebody to say "Jewess" (in a relatively neutral context) and suddenly prejudice gets mentioned, and he's suddenly as much of a bigot as Mel Gibson? Quentin Tarantino dropped the N-bomb in Pulp Fiction, so does that mean that we can compare him to David Duke, or start implying he's a Klan-member?
Anyway, my issue with Crash was that they exploited this (human tendency) to make it seem more meaningful than I think it was. Here's a movie that even dares to mention race (no, beyond that, pretty much all of the core conflict is about race), which means it must be meaningful and honest about the subject. Not really, because all the characters are caricatures of racists. A movie like Monster's Ball, addresses the subject much more gracefully, allowing race to be a factor in the relationship (as it probably would be) but still having a movie with two very realistic human people in a realistic relationship, one in which they don't talk about race 24/7.
I grew up in the suburbs and sort of thought I had a handle on how race worked and the situation as it pertains to America, but after moving to America I realized how far off I was. You can say what you want, but if you're going to your (pretty much white-collar) job and then boxing yourself up in a house in the suburbs it's impossible to grasp the extent of race relations in America, because you can sit here and say these things on the internet, but never have to get knee-deep in actual race relations.
But what does it matter, this comment's probably going nowhere but down. - steve693, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They just forgot 1 thing, the blantantly desperate pseudo-indie sountack.
- bbautista, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"...all the guy did was review two of Zach Braf's movies."
One of which he hasn't even seen yet. - KANSUO, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I loved Garden State and I hope Last Kiss is going to be anywhere near as good, I guess I'm a Zach Braff whore. Either way, anybody with any sense of humor should be quite amused by this well put together, and well thought out take on Braff.
- sola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 Looks interesting (and quite the cast too)... but I think it kind of punctuates the point about people and the themes they explore. "True Romance" still incorporates Tarantino's overiding characteristics (read: violence) and will never be anything like a Tom Hanks/Meg Ryan flick.
- Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This seems a bit far fethced, personally. I can make the same comparisons with any James Dean film.
- Llan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So it's nice to see how in his first lines, he slams Crash, one of the best films of all times, in a way that proves he is an immense racist *****.
Somehow, I don't think i will digg this... - SgnDave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2(Disclamer: this is a self-reply.)
Personally, I think it's an instance of "true colors shining through." In the movie, the protagonist (Zach Braff, natch) is Jewish... the fact that he uses "Jewess" to knock down Portman's character highlights the fact that the author is trying (emphasis: *trying*) not to appear racist. I think it's clear he is.
It's no better than calling someone Oriental in a hateful tone... the word itself may not carry a heavy connotation, but the context certainly does. - CheeseIsGood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Syndication of Scrubs was announced today. Expect it twice a day on Comedy Central.
- Character0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Any ideas when the next season of Scrubs is coming? I got hooked on that show over the summer and watched all 5 seasons. It definitely blends comedy with serious subjects really well.
- mtvkilledusall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sometime between now and January.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think Zach Braff thinks he's the new John Cusack.
- backflip10019, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's all good and great, but all the guy did was review two of Zach Braf's movies. What about other movies?
- SyxxtySyxx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2This got "front paged" why?
- zengonzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What I did find odd was that I didn't consider either of the characters to be Jewish charicatures, so it does seem odd that he referred to that.
In fact, they don't even seem similar at all. Natalie's character seems like a goofball while the second, at a glance, appears exotic and sly. - desuka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1sounds like a player hater
- grav80bong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is great...only problem, what's it doing in the Music section? I don't want to bury for being off topic cause it's awesome, so I'm gonna digg it and hope it gets moved.
- UberCoolCam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If I were to take this seriously - These movies were very different, and had completely different meanings and are so different that they shouldn't even be compared to eachother. In Garden State Braff play a nuetral character, not a bad guy not a good guy. In The Last Kiss he played (In my opinion) a bad guy.
If I were to take this as the joke it was meant to be - Those are very funny, though out of context. A lot of those are similar in the movies, mostly camera shots. As long as its not a stab at the films, I think that its pretty funny. - craftmafia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank you....I was surprised that no one mentioned the whole movie/music thing.
Entertaining all the same. - RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"it was penned by the same scribe that gave us “Crash,” aka the most ham-handed film ever inspired by liberal, white guilt"
"...jewess..."
Is this a Klan blog? - SgnDave, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5So am I the only person shocked by this line?
"The perfect catalyst for change should come in the form of a small, perky, impossibly cute, dark-haired Jewess, who, for some ..."
Dugg down as lame. This guy is a racist, he has lost all credibility. - ultrachicken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Fair call to make. I'd say he is.
- SowWn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0*****, we all know how to write a Zach Braff film. His "character" fits this "role" well. It is not a complicated equation.
How about instead of bitching about obvious *****, you sit down and write the next super hero movie. Then give Zach a call to play the lead... I am sure he will get back to you.
Get this off the front page. -
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