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- wilwheaton, on 10/12/2007, -3/+65Hey, thanks for digging this!
There's some extra stuff at my blog (wilwheaton.typepad.com), that I had to cut out of the SG article, if anyone is interested. - x96steward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11My brothers and I had to choose between going to the fair and going to the theater to see Return of the Jedi. We decided that since there was going to be another fair next year, we would rather see Return of the Jedi before it went to TV and had commercials spliced into it. I've never regretted that choice.
- misterpony, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Wil, you nailed it. I remember rewinding and watching the "binary sunset" scene over and over again and thinking, "Someday I want to be Luke Skywalker." When The Force turned out to be more of an affliction than a super power, I lost a lot of respect for the Star Wars universe. At least I can still watch the original and pretend I'm Luke Skywalker though, even if I am almost 30.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Whil Wheaton is a cool guy but as a thirty-something male I get the creeps watching him in space leotards on TNG reruns.
- Banagor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Wrong.
They sucked. - WildYams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'd like to say up front that I detest the prequels so much that they've made me lose interest in the original trilogy. That being said, I have seen all of the prequels a few times and I think that many people mistakenly claim that Phantom Menace is the worst of the three, while propping up Revenge of the Sith as the best prequel. I think that Phantom Menace was just so hugely disappointing for everyone that they THINK it's the worst of the three, and that their expectations were lowered sufficiently by the time Sith came out they were able to pick out anything they thought was marginally good about it and say "well, it wasn't as bad as the other two."
If you can stomach it, go back and watch all three of those movies again and I think you may find that Sith is actually arguably the worst of the 3, with Phantom Menace being the best. Phantom Menace did after all feature the one acting performance in all three movies that wasn't totally abysmal: Liam Neeson (note that because these movies do contain people who actually ARE good actors, I place the blame for the poor acting squarely on Lucas's head for not giving a ***** about the performances). Phantom Menace also features the only good villain in the prequels in Darth Maul, and the lightsaber battles are the best of any movie in the whole Star Wars franchise. Jake Lloyd and Jar Jar are absolutely awful, and the script is a disaster, but consider that you don't have Hayden Christiansen's horrid performance in this movie and you also don't have what is easily the most awkward love story in history making an appearance in Episode I.
Lucas's instincts were clearly way off on all three movies, but he gets further and further off base as these films went on. At the heart of what's wrong with Episode III (aside from the bad acting, directing, etc) is that Anakin's decision to go to the dark side makes no sense at all and is based in nothing. Episode III is so awful because at the end you're left wondering what the hell was Darth Vader's motivation in the original trilogy. Why was he so loyal to a guy who had so openly manipulated and betrayed him, and who was laughing at him when he was upset that his wife was dead?
The prequels were a complete disaster, but I'm sticking to my guns on this one: I think they got worse as they went on, not better. - datagod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I never realized I had so much pent up anger at Lucas for the PhantomCloneCrapfest until I read your article, Wil.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane...now I am going to go play with my frozen Han Solo and my Snow Speeder... :( - martinj88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7My main problem with the prequels is that it spent way to much on the CGI and not enough on the story
Also Jar Jar binks, I hate him so much - omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I remember wanting to be Luke Skywalker when I was a kid. For the more recent generations....who is there in the new movies that anyone wants to emulate? Except maybe Mace Windu, and then only because it's Samuel ***** Jackson.
No one says they want to be Jar Jar. - residentweevil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Here ya go:
Last weekend, Cinemax ran a constantly-repeating marathon of the entire Star Wars series, beginning with Phantom Menace and ending with Return of the Jedi. I watched four of the six movies in their entirety (sorry, but there is no ***** way I will ever sit through Phantom Menace one more time. Fool me once, you can't get fooled again, y'all) but I did my best to watch Attack of the Clones, before giving up about 30 minutes in and letting it run in the background while I played PLO/8 at Pokerstars.
I gave Revenge of the Sith more of my attention, though, because I'd never seen it before, and my nerd friends all agreed that it wasn't as horrible as the other two. (Uh, if the best thing you can say about a movie is that it doesn't suck as much as another movie, that's sort of a problem, isn't it?) After watching the entire thing -- which was about 30 minutes too long -- I can agree with them. It's not as bad as the prior two, but it doesn't rise to the level of the original Star Wars, and isn't even close to Empire Strikes Back.
After about eleven hours of Star Wars movies, though, I wondered: why exactly is the Star Wars trilogy such a big deal to some of us, even though it's clearly flawed, and ends with a bunch of muppets singing around the campfire? Why do so many of us love it so much? Why did so many of us take it as a personal affront when the new movies and re-releases didn't meet our expectations? Why did most of us go back twice after Phantom Menace, like we were in a dysfunctional relationship, hoping that if we just worked a little harder, we'd find a pony?
To me, and I suspect to many other people in my generation, Star Wars was more than just another movie; it was a cultural phenomenon that carried us through elementary school and primed us for Voltron, He-Man, GI Joe, and all the other action figure-oriented entertainment of our youth. While our parents played Cowboys and Indians, we played Star Wars (and Batman and Star Trek, but mostly Star Wars) on the playground, and in the park, and on the floors of our parents' kitchens. Every flashlight or broomstick we saw was a potential lightsaber, and we dreamed of someday using the Force for real.
We love Star Wars because, when viewed from our complicated adult lives through the lens of childhood nostalgia, we see a simpler, happier time, and recall this phenomenon that was an integral part of our lives. Remember what it was like to see the Death Star blow up the first time? Remember how you just couldn't believe it that they froze Han Solo? If you were young enough at the time, will you admit that you thought the Ewoks were actually kind of funny and cool? (I will.) And how much did you run around the woods near your house, pretending to be on a speeder bike? See, it's more than a movie; it's culture.
And that is why the prequels, especially Episode I, are such a kick in the balls to us. To be fair, it's pretty impossible for George Lucas to create something with Phantom Menace that matches up to the idealized version we all created in our minds, but releasing a movie that felt like an excuse to sell ILM's new toys to studios, and sell actual toys to kids was not a good place to start.
My brother and I sat in line for 18 hours for that movie (it's not the several days that the real Star Wars nerds put in, but everything is relative, and 18 hours on the concrete in Burbank was a significant commitment for us.) To maximize our geekiness, we played Magic: The Gathering for most of the time we waited, and I am not ashamed to admit that I got goosebumps and a little misty when the lights dimmed in the theater, and that iconic music started. It was all downhill from there: "My name is Anakin, and I'm a person!" and "Yeah, the Force? Well, it's not as much a mystical energy that runs through the universe as it is a virus that's carried around by nanites in your blood. Hey, Star Wars fans? ***** you! I got your money! Ha! Ha! Ha!" And don't even get me started on Jar-Jar Binks. By the time the film was over, I wasn't just disappointed, I was mad. No, I wasn't mad, I was furious, and I didn't bother to watch Episodes II and III until they were on cable this weekend, and even then I ignored most of Episode II, lest my fury rise again.
See, can you imagine having this sort of reaction to anything else? I thought it was lame that Molly Ringwald went with the Andrew McCarthy in Pretty in Pink but it didn't make me mad. I thought Ghostbusters 2 was pretty stupid, but I didn't want to punch a door when I walked out of the theater. It wasn't just a movie, it was personal.
But now that some time has passed, I can take a longer view and ask: Did Lucas really betray us with the new movies? Well, I don't know if it's fair to say that he did, because I don't think he ever cared about us as much as we cared about them. It's obvious now, especially after watching all of them and seeing what Lucas does when he's left entirely to his own devices, that the movies are just excuses to show off his special effects and sell toys.
But ultimately, all of that matters as much as we allow it to. Yes, the new movies suck out loud and should be dumped into the Sarlacc pit, but we'll always have the original trilogy, and its halcyon memories.
Some of us even have our action figures, so we can recreate that famous scene in Mos Eisley where Han shoots first.
Wil Wheaton picks up all his power converters at Toshi Station. - alphaterminus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The most lame part of the prequils was the acting. It was dry and basically sucked. Harrison Ford contributed a lot to the original 3. No great actors will emerge from the prequils.
And Jar Jar reminded me of "black" speak during the slavery era... that was my thought watching it on opening day in the theater and I just couldn't get past that. - DjOverEZ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I propose a petition to ban any titles with words that look like to word "Wii." I became completely confused with reading this thinking it said "Wii Wheaton's Geek In Review: Han Shoots First"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why does every one insist on saying Han shoots first? "Han shoots first" implies that Greedo then shot back. The correct expression would be "Greedo never fired." I am just sayin'.
- Mulo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5A movie cannot bring back your childhood. That saying "you can't go home again" applies here. Yes SW 1 sucked, but 2 and 3 weren't all that bad. It also seems like the most passionate people on this issue saw SW 4 when they were pre to early teens.
BTW, there is a reason Lucas made SW 4, 5 and 6 first, they were better stories! - Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And the Asian trade federation... XD
- skellener, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You got most of it right Wil. Probably three of the worst films EVER made are the Star Wars prequels. Yes, they are truly that bad. But IMHO "Sith" is probably the worst of the prequels. It had by far the most contempt for the original trilogy in it.
I still maintain that it was Marcia Lucas - editor of the original Star Wars that saved that film. Watch the final attack of the Death Star in the original cut. Truly a spectacular job of editing. She is the true hero of that movie. - Teague, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Hey man, I liked where this was going, but it seems like you got up to speed and then let go of it, and threw in the Han line at the end to wrap it up cleanly. I would have loved to hear a more involved opinion on the new movies, considering your unusal status in scifi, and unsual circumstances of 1. hating the prequels, 2. having avoided them until way after the fact, and 3. being a noteworthy geek writer to begin with. (Who has, from what I understand complained about them for years.)
Maybe a part two or something, to get that much more out there? I was expecting a bit more than "yep, they sucked, I was right" as a reader, honestly, and I've seen in some of your other writings hints that there might be more going on in your head than the sort of simple glancing blow at the latter prequels we saw in this post.
Anyway, just a thought.
-Fig - dslartoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Psych77:
The folks over at the Home Theater Forum (where I hang out periodically) have suggested an elegant viewing order which I've adopted.
4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 6.
This way you get to start with the film that started off the whole phenomenon, "I am your father!" is still a surprise, you then go for a three-film flashback that shows you how Vader became what he is, and then you return to the present for the climax to the saga and the happy ending.
I think it's perfect and recommend it highly. :) - nazadus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3After just finishing Devil May Cry 3 (never having played the other 2, aside form watching 30 seconds at a friends house of DMC1) I have found out why I still liked Star Wars 1-3 even though everything in them sucked -- I liked the history. Granted, the Cartoon Network stuff freaking rules (which made my weekend the first time I watched them all together... ).
I think that is what every geek always wants to know: "how did character X develop {personality, item, ability} Y". Just sometimes it's better left to the imagination.
I suspect the trouble is the directors losing focus on who their target audience is.They are trying to make it family friendly when it really needs to be geek friendly. In the geek world main characters can die. These characters can be good guys. Sure, it's upsetting, but it's even MORE upsetting when the good guy magically comes back from the dead or from some obscure method or something along those lines to happen. An example is Lord of the Rings. They didn't cheese -- they stuck pretty damn close to the book (not that I've read the book; I know, I know, my geek status is revoked; but I'm TOLD they stuck pretty close by many people). They could have easily just cheesed out and ruined it -- instead they made boat loads of money. The _only_ reason Star Wars made it's money is because of 4-6. Had those not existed and thusly the fans not existing (or at least, not devoted to SW) then 4-6 wouldn't have had a chance in hell. People would have given up at 2 calling it a lost cause.
While I'm not an actor, I have certainly been in the position where "The Boss" made a decision I *really* didn't like (usually when this is the case, it affects my {weekends, night time, stress level} -- so it's in my own best interest to make sane decisions) and got screwed by it in one manner or another. Luckily I now work for a more informed boss (and thusly makes better decisions).
If the acting field is like I suspect, pitching a fit and quitting can seriously hurt your career FAR more than a system admin pitching a fit and quitting. That whole black ball thing or something.. I can't recall what it's called...
The Pre-Going-To-Sleep Huge Ass Comment (TM) is now over... bed time for me... - Humptydank, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Nice job Wil, thanks.
When Star Wars came out I was twelve, and I can honestly say that seeing it for the first time changed my brain chemistry. It had only one significant difference from every science fiction film that had come before it -- it was real. Space ships were beat up. Droids whistled to themselves when they were alone, and every corner of of every shot clearly had some backstory that you weren't privy to and never would be.
I've argued that George Lucas is the Steve Jobs of film. Not every part of what he makes is perfect, but at least some of his work is more than just beautifully designed, it fits right in your brain.
After seeing Phantom Menace, however, I've also argued that the Star Wars series should be declared a National Landmark and, as such, Lucas should be required to have any substantive renovations approved by a landmark preservation committee before he begins construction.
But that's the problem with being a filmmaker, I suppose. Unlike Steve Jobs, George Lucas can't just take his products off the market after they're made and hope everyone forgets about them. He has to live with that legacy.
And so I declare from my very own horse farm, rendering studio, theater audio lab, and palatial mansion (okay fine, I declare from my own palatial one bedroom apartment in New York) -- it sucks to be him. - Banagor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have to rant too:
Message to people who might want to defend Lucas on this: Wake the ***** up. EP 1-3 sucked. Even people who weren't SW fans know they sucked. The only people who don't think they sucked are Sci-Fi fanatics who didn't grow up with SW. Everyone else who grew up with SW, or who wasn't a Sci-Fi fan, thought that they just plain sucked. The only reason they made so much money was because everyone kept hoping the next movie would be the one which didn't suck anymore. But they were wrong, and all our hopes were crushed. They sucked, sucked, sucked.
I disagree a ton with what Wil usually writes about, but I still like his style and he's right on the money here. And yeah...Han shoots first. What the ***** is the world coming to when my favorite bar scene in the entire world is turned into a dissertation on the glories of a new and politically correct universe? *****, I'd have shot Greedo first as well. We LIKED Han because he shot first.
End of story. - valehru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2le sigh, mine as well...
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Although if the term "suicidegirls" didn't set alarm bells ringing in the proxy filter then I would start to get worried.. - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Nothing can ever top your memories of movies from when you were a kid.
Until I saw The Matrix again recently, it was the greatest movie ever for me. But thats because when it was originally in the theaters I saw it twice while tripping flaming balls of fire on some of the greatest LSD I ever had. I'm not so impressed with it now. The first Lord of the Rings too, tripping my ass off, I was in middle earth with them and it was incredible.
I suggest everyone drop a hit of acid 1 hour before any movie starts. And then never see that movie again. Because it wasn't a movie. You were there.
I saw Phantom Menace at the 10:30 AM show after it was a month old. I was totally sober. The movie sucked ass. - livestradamus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1At work where they have a proxy filter, so I can't read this till later
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URL: http://suicidegirls.com/news/geek/19141/ - deadlock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The difference is, though, that Luke started out as a whiny git and over the course of the three films developed into a zen Jedi - and not just in title, there's genuine character progression there. Anakin started out as an annoying little ***** in TPM and pretty much stayed that way for the rest of the trilogy - whereas Hammill was given lateral to portray his character's journey, we relied on other character's in the prequels to tell us that Anakin was a great Jedi.
That aside, I generally have mixed feelings about the prequels. Episode 1 was pretty bad - the few good moments (the opening half hour, the threeway with Maul) don't save it. Episode 2 was better but it had some awful dialogue, wooden acting, bizarre plot points (the Sifo Dyas stuff comes out of nowhere, is never explained and never mentioned again) and confirmed that Lucas was going to insist on shoe-horning (bit) characters from the original trilogy into the prequels (Boba Fett). The last act of the film was great though (basically from the time that Obi Wan, Anakin and Amidala are led into the arena and everything kicks off).
As for Episode 3: I'm a lot more favourably disposed to this film even though it suffers from the same stilted dialogue, wooden acting and hopelessly confused narrative as the previous two. There's a definite improvement in quality though and once Anakin turns to the dark side, the prequels finally start to pay off in emotional terms. Even Vader's unfortunate Frankenstein moment can't spoil it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yea, we played star trek all the time at the playground when I was a kid, although since i was much younger than you, we played TNG instead.
I always had to be the dude that dies first (but i always did die in a comical matter, then i walk home while everybody else plays), and other times im stuck as crusher, and get to stay the whole time.
I usually preferred being the dead guy - LarianLeQuella, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Even as a kid I thought Luke was a whiney wimp "But the other guys got to go to Mos Eisley....." whhhhhaaaaaaa
I always wanted to be Han Solo, cause you knew that he was getting all the action with whatever hot chick he coud smuggle onto his ship. "Yeah trust me baby, we gotta be naked in the cargo hold, otherwise the stormtroopers find us!" So while many folks wanted to be Luke, I'd always be Han. It's the devil-may-care attitude that I like to go with. - Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"and unsual circumstances of 1. hating the prequels"
Well, you're wrong about that. It is common to think they were terrible and "hate" them. Sure, they were better than nothing I guess. - Zefrem23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm sorry, but in reality while Lucas claims he had the first 3 movies' stories "all worked out", in actuality I doubt he ever had anything more than a few key plot points scribbled down on the back of a napkin. And let's not be too amazed when George "Howard the Duck" Lucas makes something well-loved into something laughable and borderline-horrific. I think "Wii" Wheaton hits the nail on the head about why we feel so bummed by the prequels, and if you haven't seen it, this article is a good compliment to to Wil's opus: http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What is unusual about #1 and #2? A LOt of people hated the prequels, and a lot of them avoided them as long as possible (with many still not having seen one second of the new trilogy)
- Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"it, this article is a good compliment to to Wil's opus: http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381"
That article is a piece of trash by an equally trashy writer. - somerandomnerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ditto.
http://www.duggmirror.com ? - Psych77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My main problem with the new 3 is that they give the whole story away.
Does no-one remember the shock of finding out who Luke's father is? How is it a suprise anymore?
I'm not sure any backstory was required. George Lucas may have had a huge story in his mind, and was waiting for special effects to catch up... but I like the effects in the originals, and the story could have stayed in his mind as far as I'm concerned.
The original 3, great, movies all led up to one, huge climax. That climax is now more like a damp patch.
My nephews get to see the original 3 movies now. Maybe they'll see the new 3, but I'm not going to ruin the story by showing them first. - AsMadAsEggs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ep4 : Nothing ever came even nearly visually close to the quality of the sfx for decades, great story and cast, must see movie.
Ep5 : It’s the grittiness of this film which makes it favourite amongst us, again its visual qualities unsurpassed. It’s the dark side that seduces us.
Ep6 : Again it was the dogz bollocks ILM and Henderson studio's work their magic... enjoyable and well told if a tad soft in places.
Ep1 :Travesty, it was 2 soft for a SW film, Jar Jar is uncomfortable to endure, Lucas was out of his mind.
Ep2 :My jaw dropped at the sfx but the story cluttered and poor cast performance. I winced when Jar Jar appeared.
Ep3 : Superb but crammed to tie up the story.
People forget it was a tale a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away…. For me that’s a good enough excuse allow for poor acting... what do we expect of a different race! Lucas wasted that card.
IMHO with EP1 Lucas has ruined his film god reputation and crippled the kudos of his brand.
Lucas went radical rather than loyal to the fans and fell flat on his face.
Lord Lucas your arrogance blinds you. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How 'bout someone posts the text of the article?
- Chongo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I only say that to myself every day so that I'll soon believe it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One says that because they're expressing their [I][B]STRONG[//] dislike to what Lucas did to the retakes of 4-6.
Not to mention it just sounds catchier. - dsdm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Note to rmeddy: The actor they used for the Emperor in the prequels IS the same guy they used in the original trilogy. And I'm sure a lot of the stuff I'm going to say has already been said by some of the 600+ people who have already posted, but here goes:
The prequels suck because either George Lucas cannot write for *****, or cannot direct for *****, or both. A great deal of the dialog sucks. Jar-Jar sucks. Anakin is a snot-nosed brat in episode 1, and a whiney, petulant little bitch in episode 2. Amidala goes from being the strong leader of a planet, to a strong senator representing the planet's interests, to a WEAK, WEEPY, AND USELESS woman in episode 3, just like that. The more-or-less dark and serious tone of the original trilogy is wrecked by the over-the-top one-liners and comic relief of Jar-Jar and 3-PO in the prequels. And let's not forget the William Shatner-esque Wrath of Khan moment at the end of episode 3: "NOOOOOO!!!"
But besides the prequels sucking, I think a lot of the bad feelings goes to George Lucas. I think a lot of us were happy with the Star Wars franchise as it was. But no, George had to tell the story as he "originally intended." Including ret-conning the original trilogy to fit his "vision." So Greedo shoots first, Jabba's in Episode IV, there's a gay little dance number with a badly-done CG character in Jabba's stronghold in episode VI, the "yub-yub" song is gone, Hayden-Christianson is Anakin's ghost image, and oh yeah, Boba Fett talks with an Australian or cockney English accent because that's the way Jango Fett talked in episode 2 George Lucas pretty much shat on the fans. He either forgot or didn't realize that the Star Wars franchise didn't belong just to him, but to the people who MADE HIS ***** CAREER. I mean, it's not like the THX 1138 and American Grafitti action figures were leaping off the shelves. - BlueBeetle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Great article Wil. I agree that the new movies sucked ass but I still felt like a little kid in certain parts. Like when you saw dozens of Jedi doing battle together or Yoda going up against the Emperor.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1i basically said to wake me when empire starts but i still watched a new hope and i was dissapointed at how they changed up so much stuff in iv,v and vi like using the actor from the prequels for the emporer and hayden christensen for anakin's spirit in return of the jedi but the only thing that saved ep 1 was that fight with obi wan and darth maul in the end all and gredo did shoot first han solo dodge something moving at the speed of light, boy the force is really strong in that one.
- trekfan2659, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I read both your blogs for this, loved the halcyon days link story. Reminds me of when I watch my 4 year old nephew when he plays with his(mine) Star Wars toys, I get the same feeling of yesteryear. But it's because of him I had to give the first 2 episodes a second look. He loves them, mostly because he can relate to young Anakin. His favorite scene is where Anakin dives off the side of the speeder in Coruscant. His young and naive enthusiasm allowed me to watch the first 2 episodes in a new light, and I have to admit I see what George was trying to accomplish by just telling an entertaining story with lots of cooool special effects. And as for trying to sell us toys, whether tech. or plastic using the movies as a marketing tool....well, I'm buying. Because I remember what it was like as a 12 year old kid, and all the cool adventures I had with my Millenium Falcon. I will not begrudge my nephew his adventures with Anakin's Jedi Fighter. Granted, he also likes to blow up JarJar. So he's not completely sold.
- Dylan1077, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Wil!
'Stand By Me' was awesome!! ;) - Lavarock, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1They didn't suck, they just *weren't masterpieces*. Cut some slack. Episodes 1-3 were decent movies. Disappointing, sure, but that's because you all expected something to worship forever.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3I usually have a thing against people in the entertainment industry that starred in a show with a big fanbase, and tried to capitalize on that by getting a blog and trying to be what everyone wants him to be.
and this is no exception. nah, just kidding, very true indeed. Although I must say, I did like watching Star Wars IV-VI in high definition the past weekend, albeit even though it was the 2004 edition...... - Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Dugg down just because it's on SG. Those guys are *****.
- swgc5, on 10/12/2007, -20/+2Wesley, get off the bridge and stay away from my ready room!
In all seriousness, what is it like being the worst character, in anything, ever?


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