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- TheObviousChild, on 08/08/2008, -0/+49'Aliens' clones mostly suck...mostly.
- Smokeydabear, on 08/07/2008, -0/+26The whole point of the movie was to show that they were not like the typical alien that one would think of. They were an advanced race that had one thing in mind; to breed. That was their goal in the simplest form. The alien's were not man eating monsters, they were doing what they were designed to do, propagate their race.
- thegrantman, on 08/08/2008, -1/+26I wish Joss Whedon would make another Serenity;I thought that was the most underated Sci-fi flick in a decade.It had everything and was meticulously crafted.
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -5/+26Hollywood need to get over 'Aliens', it was a great movie but aliens do not all have to be man-eating monsters with huge slimy teeth to be interesting. Read the book "Mote in Gods Eye" if you want to see how realistic aliens should be portrayed, however if they do make a movie out of that book I'm sure the moties will be popping out of peoples chests...
- badwithcomputer, on 08/08/2008, -0/+17This is just a heads up for LA film fans- The Arclight Sherman Oaks movie theatre was showing Alien on Monday (I went...it was AWESOME) and will be showing Aliens this upcoming Monday:
https://www.arclightcinemas.com/ArcLight/faces/Mov ...
In case any local Diggers are interested. - Dumbledorito, on 08/07/2008, -1/+17Or they could read and adapt any number of Dark Horse comic books from the Alien franchise if they wanted a decent tale. "Berserker" would make a good movie, for example.
Of course, this is the same advice a lot of people wanted George Lucas to take ("go use the comics. You own them, too, for crissakes!"), so I'm not holding my breath. - feanix, on 08/08/2008, -1/+14From the comments on the blog this blog linked to:
"Deep in the Koopa Galaxy in an abandoned Sewage Treatment Plant, a crack team of Plumbers special ops is sent to rescue a missing detachment of Princesses, only to come up against a force that is humanoid, in that dinosaur type of way, but definitely not human. After brutally murdering the stuffed animal, the tough polyester-filled member of the team, and maiming Toad, the group’s geeky operations strategist, the entity shows itself to be a terrifying Bastard shaped like a huge, grotesque version of a Dinosaur/Turtle with a Lion-like mouth. The team’s fearless leader, Mario, quickly realizes that if he doesn’t stop the creature, no one will, and that perhaps this battle, in addition to saving the human race, will help him atone for his recent 500 games that have left his series completely diluted."
GOLD! - inactive, on 08/08/2008, -2/+15GOOD! 1 was awesome, 2 was even better 3 was good but not great 4 pile of crap and the cross over made me sick.
JUST SAY NO TO SEQUELS AND REMAKES - neocr0n, on 08/08/2008, -0/+10Sci-Fi has took a serious hit in recent years. Lord of the Rings sparked a bit of a fantasy resurgence but I've not seen a Sci-Fi film that could match Alien/s or Blade Runner for quite some time. All films set in the future these days are a not so distance future and totally believable in terms of tech. No one is stretching their imagination, or maybe Hollywood just won't give them the budgets who knows.
- HCviolence, on 08/08/2008, -1/+10If Die Hard 4 or Indiana jones 4 taught us anything it's that they should stop making sequels of old movies.
- GorfTron, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9The THing (1980ish) was a masterpiece and flopped. Go figure.
- kingmanic, on 08/08/2008, -1/+8Sunshine was an awesome sci fi movie. It's a shame it didn't do better. It was tense all the way through and had semi-plausible science next to it's mostly implausible plot device.
- barbaragordon, on 08/08/2008, -1/+8God I hope not. Hollywood needs to stop flogging dead horses. Alien/Aliens were outstanding movies but they've been getting worse and worse with each subsequent film, and are now just a joke. Give up on the whole franchise garbage, please.
- markdall, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6"Listen, fellows, I am not religious. I never went to church as a girl or repeated prayers or hymns over and over again. My sacred texts are Alien, Aliens, Predator, The Terminator, and Total Recall..."
Holy shiat, I'm in Love. - mikelieman, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6The first movie, Alien succeeded in horror. *NOT* seeing the antagonist was incredibly effective.
The second movie, Aliens succeeded as action. Not so much horror. Seeing aliens isn't as effective as NOT seeing them. - richmomz, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6'Aliens' was one of the greatest action/horror movies of all time and I agree that all subsequent attempts to recapture its glory (along with the similar classics like the Terminator) have failed miserably. Even to this day Aliens cliches and script snippets are recycled over and over again, not only in movies but especially in video games (Halo, Starcraft, etc.). How I long for the days when plot and suspense was more important than special effects.
- steve693, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6The rip-offs mostly come out of hollywood. . .mostly
- robotosaurus, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6There's never going to be another Aliens, because at one point, the writers decided that it should be Starship Troopers with low visibility.
- boltox, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6Aliens, the movie, is easily one of the most influential films ever made. Not only did it spawn a ridiculous amount of imitators in film, look at the sheer amount of video games that are built around a similar concept. Most FPS titles are basically a spin on Aliens. The rest are based off WW2.
- libertao, on 08/08/2008, -0/+5But what happened to the ending?? It was going along nicely as an entertaining sci-fi and then out of nowhere turns into a lame monster-horror movie.
- bigcynic, on 08/08/2008, -1/+6That's the corporate movie machine — the suits always want to stick with the "sure thing" and not take risks on something creative and outside the box, like the first "Alien" and "Predator" were.
- wrenchone, on 08/08/2008, -2/+7...And skip the blog spam-
http://filmindustrybloggers.com/thescriptreader/20 ...
The actual article. - CrimsonBlur, on 08/08/2008, -0/+5There are also no aliens in the universe he created for that show. At least, we never see any and no one talks about aliens.
- jellyfishes, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4Live for the swarm!
- shotgunefx, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4You know what I find funny?, script readers.
And this is no slight to Cecelia, but just something I find baffling about the industry. Considering how much movies cost, I find it amazing that many script readers are simply interns, not even paid, they basically read the script, write some a short coverage and pass it in to the higher ups to busy to read it. This is the first filter (or one of the first) for many scripts.
Not that thats what I find funny, what I find odd is from what I know of it, their often isn't really any qualifying of applicants outside of the ability to read a lot of scripts and write coverage fairly fast. They could get someone who has a good feel for film and has a knack for picking "good" scripts (totally subjective I know), or you could have someone with horrible tastes, so it all seems like a bit of a dice roll given the large investment films usually require. By the same token, these very people, by the nature of their work, have a measurable influence on what scripts ever will see the light of day. - chuckDontSurf, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4I don't know why you're getting buried; you speak the truth. For me, the Alien series is composed of only the first two movies; the rest don't exist, especially not the godawful 'Resurrection.'
- NJRFilms, on 08/08/2008, -1/+5Oh and the general public really needs to shut the ***** up about sequels. It's called 'printing money' and you would do it too if you could.
- heymike, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4So you're saying to avoid sequels? Too bad as I hear Aliens 2 was even better than the first.
- pixelguru, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4I've always thought a great movie could be based on the mostly untold story of the colonists on LV-426. Everyone knows they lose in the end, but by the glimpses of what we see in Aliens, they put up a noble fight. I've always liked true tragedies much more than disney endings anyway.
- LucFerris, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4Yeah, that one made you feel like you could be there. I got an idea! Maybe he should make it into a TV show, kinda like the everyman's Star Trek. He could use the same cast, and they could ship around the 'verse gettin' into loads pf trouble and a mess a' crazy adventures!
- unwiseone, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3The movie Sunshine from the director of '28 Days Later' came out recently, and I thought it was terrific.
- antler, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately, there is a consistent pattern of box office performance for recent non-action-based science fiction films featuring a guy heading toward a star:
Sunshine (2007): $32 million ($3.6m US, $28.3m Foreign)
The Fountain (2006): $16 million ($10.1m US, $5.8m Foreign)
Solaris (2002): $30 million ($15m US, $15m Foreign)
Despite any story flaws, these movies have satisfied me purely on visuals/music/mood alone. - pixelguru, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3I had the good fortune to see the first Predator movie in the theaters with *no* prior knowledge of what the movie was about. I went with friends in HS, and I had not even seen a trailer. When it started, I figured I was in for a standard action/war flick (we actually came late and missed the opening shot of the saucer dropping the pod), but instead was treated to a brilliant piece of sci-fi. I've seen a few other movies this way (the first Die-Hard, a Fish Called Wanda), and they all stand out as some of the finest moviegoing experiences I've ever had.
Trailers in their current format give away entirely too much - often the funniest lines or most dramatic action has been played on commercials so many times before you see the movie that you yawn when they are replayed in the actual movie, and the internet has only magnified this trend.
If you want to really enjoy a movie, don't even read the back of the DVD box. - TheInformer, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3Want to see a good scifi movie that never had a wide release in the United States?
The Quiet Earth, starring Bruno Lawrence.
Has the most interesting ending to a movie ever. Leaves a lot for discussion, which is a major positive in my book. Please, if you're interested in seeing the movie, DO NOT read about it beforehand or look at any pictures from the movie.
Youtube has the entire movie available for watching:
01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAmQGSsKVe4&feature ...
02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0VyTEbCTUI&feature ...
03 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUReWsX4HSU&feature ...
04 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET3qW7eT030&feature ...
05 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_T8jIvAfMI&feature ...
06 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2hkW1rEJXI&feature ...
07 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhlJ49tTz3k&feature ...
08 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxvLphXT0AY&feature ...
09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb1lI2er-0w&feature ...
10 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuoXWeiFTbg&feature ...
11 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bao7sfUa5sY&feature ... - jaxcs, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3Sunshine is one of those movies you really want to like, but can't. Aside from the dubious science (can we really reignite a sun), it was just confused. The weighty issue that was sorta posed - does humanity deserve to live - was delivered by the madman who tries to kill everyone. So this serious science fiction movie ultimately isn't really all that serious at all. This movie is a real mess.
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3People still make groundbreaking sci-fi. Aliens, IMO, was more of an action movie feeding off the corpse of a great horror/sci-fi flick. Ridley Scott's original is one of the greatest films of all time, though (IMO, of course). Not without its flaws, but still an amazing film. But look at what Shane Carruth was able to achieve with 'Primer' for $7000. That film was all about an idea and worked amazingly well without millions of dollars in production value or a cast of stars. But I wonder if most readers would have made it past the first ten pages of the script.
- yugnats, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3I personally liked Aliens better.
- hackiavelli, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3Children of Men is the last great sci-fi film I remember seeing and that was two years ago.
- ScarabLordCoral, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3James Cameron's Avatar will be out in a little over a year from now. That should be great, considering he's the guy who directed all these "sci-fi classics."
- GorfTron, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3I thought it was great until it devolved into the common action thriller with the evil madman killing the crew.
- lmf49, on 08/08/2008, -1/+311 minutes ago
No, this series ending pile of hogwash called Requiem will probably spell doom for this potentially great line of movies that would have been great. Instead the plot and the timeline of events was severely and I'm afraid fatally wounded by a B-list cast, and C- writers while at the same time completely neglecting a integral and important story line from the Dark Horse novel series way back in the AVP part one(as I feel the sequel nature of the second movie, this series deserves to be listed under AVP pt one and AVP: R-tarded) movie. The Woman Huntress, the one who killed the queen, was adopted by a predator on his death bed, and whisked away to be trained by, and later hunt and kill with the Predators for sport. That was supposed to be the cold gold inside the steaming hot turd that was AVP part one. AVP: R-tarded should have been adapted from a Dark Horse Novel, not from a UCLA flunk-ey screen writer, or those *****-heads over at Fox who somehow naturally destroy every franchise they touch (save the simpsons) over the last several, um I don't know, forever's.
So in summation, that is why the Aliens series will never return, or in my opininion, never recover from, not the shortage of new and reinvigorating scripts (See article above) based around the Aliens universe, but rather it was the creative liberty of an ungreatful screen writer (and or Fox Executive producers, lets not forget to give blame where blame is due) who decided not to go down a well established and popular storyline from the series of novels already entitled Aliens Versus Predator. Its so wrong it was tacky, and it dragged fans of the Aliens series/universe through the mud, the thickest dirtiest most vile kind of mud out there. The Hollywood Sequel. Atleast enough idiots like you will buy the AVP boxed set when it comes out in a few months that this frachise might break even from the residuals. Oh and AmonOden, I wouldn;t get your hopes up on James Cameron to save this series, the best you could hope for is an old yeller ender like a Starship Troopers 2, or some other equally bunk sequel/ bullet to the dome piece (which incidentally wasn't that fatal, see SST3) to come along and bury this franchise just like the diggers are ultimately doing to me right now. Peace... *****!
Sorry for the double post - icexe, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2Want something cerebral and ass-kicking at the same time? Then make The Forever War, dammit!!
- thegrantman, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2The public underrated it by not seeing it.It made some money but everyone still goes to see ***** like Transformers and I am legend.
- solid12345, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2Still waiting on Alien v.s Predator v.s Freddy v.s Jason v.s Ash v.s Robocop v.s Terminator, come on Hollywood make it happen!
- barcelona10, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2I grew up with these movies... and honestly I am glad there aren't any more on the docket... ever since the second, some would argue the third, it was all down hill from there.
- skellener, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2They all = FAIL, except Alien, Aliens and Predator.
- Radan, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2I couldn't agree more with you. Have you seen the AvP:Requiem trailer? It pretty much spoils every single death in the whole movie. Same with Spiderman 3.
Today, trailers seems to be more or less just summaries of the movie, but maybe that is what the current Youtube generation with a attention span of five seconds want. People don't want to get surprised anymore. - Radan, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2The into sequence in Alien 3 ruined the whole movie for me though. It completely destroyed the satisfactory ending in Aliens.
- lmf49, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2Dugg for the Dark Horse Novel's nod. I read all those as a kid, and now a decade later I've moved into a new house with a roommate who has the entire collection sitting in the living room. Its funny talking about all this Aliens chatter on the interwebs b/c now i want to get all nerdy and read those novels again.
- viniciusb, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2Kind of what you did to her article!
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