What is Digg?Sponsored by adult swim
Aqua Teen Hunger Force view!
adultswim.com - Carl sings "I'll Be Home This Christmas" from the new Aqua Teen CD. Click here to watch. You almost kind of feel sorry for the guy.
125 Comments
- Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -1/+95"These guys cannot be fooled by marketing anymore. The harder we hype them, the harder we fall." That statement in big letters wins a Digg from me. It's all about making GOOD movies. Killing all the Torrents and DRM-ing overpriced media to kingdom come won't save the movie industry; only good films can do that.
- docholoday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+56completely agreed. I won't go see a movie opening night anymore. What's the point of wasting $30 (2 tickets + Mt Dew + wife's choice of snack) to see crap. It's gotta be good, have at least an 80% Tomato-meter, and a friends recommendation or two before I pony up the cash.
Bitching about teenagers stealing movies isn't going to plug the holes in their sinking ship. Good movies, no cellphones and maybe getting a liquior license at the snack bar wouldn't hurt. - ViRaZ, on 10/12/2007, -3/+40And the next movie to make people disappear from the theaters is Mission Impossible 3.
- TinnCan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31My girlfriend's father owns a small theater and makes a lot more off of pitchers of beer than any of the other concessions... it's a good idea... movies seem less crappy when you are sloshed.
- pondster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23I think it's a little too early to say the audiences are back - so we went to see a few good movies, how long till they start slinging the ***** again?
No Hype, Good marketing and above all, a GOOD movie - they finally figured it out OMG! - oliverc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23My goodness, it was so incredibly obvious why movies were slumping, because the movies all sucked! It has been a terrible last 12 months for movies, I only really enjoyed batman begins. The audiences will be back because X3, pirates 2, and da vinci code look like winners (hopefully).
His comment about marketers sometimes killing movies is definitely true too, where was the hype for equilibrium? - xbudex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23It is all part of Hollywood%u2019s plan to stop piracy. Just make movies so bad that no one wants to pirate them.
- daurkin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18They need to have DIGG the MOVIES to help build movie buzz
- Nastjuid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24Exactly..
And it would make the whole night easier if I could get her drunk at the movies, skip dinner and go straight to bed. - Fieri, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16It's because most people are stupid. Serenity should have beaten Flight Plan at the box office, but it didn't.
- Anth741, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14"By the Net and by BlackBerry transmission, word of mouth rules."
- maxium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Don't forget that Hollywood is out of ideas. What's the next big release? Mi-3 (Wii).. did they really need to make another Poseidon? I mean is the Towering Inferno next?
- dillboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11A quick glance at rottentomatoes.com.
4 out of the top 5 films below a 40% rating.
4 out of the top 5 films are rehashes or remakes. (same 4)
5 out of the top 5 films below the $20 million mark.
It's not necessarily that moviegoers want a great film, but one with a new topic/idea helps...even if we don't like the subject matter. - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Hehe did you ever notice that Jodie Foster's movies are all the same? Panic room Flight Plan... Not much difference with acting either.
- Kaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"Because it was good" I beg to differ.. Flight Plan was a horrible movie.. and people bought into the marketing.
- Frank_the_Tank, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11The top movie last weekend was RV. Agreed: people are stupid.
They don't want to think, or be moved. They want mindless idiocy. Just look at Larry the Cable Guy! - sogracefully, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10and WHAT is with all the remakes?! it's impossible that the entire scriptwriting world is so devoid of new ideas that the only recourse is to make miami vice into a movie.
- tony23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"We all have to go with our gut instincts, give up the fantasy of a formula."
All the movie execs are looking for is formula. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9There was no hype, it became a cult classic, it still sells, a lot of people still praise equilibrium and it made enough money for ultra violet (which despite the gorgeous trailers sucked like a College Grad seniors Graphic Presentation), yeah so the movies have been *****, Though I have to admit, Slevin was awesome.
Guess we as an audience and as a society are getting smarter with age, our generation is smarter then the last, and we look for the whole package and a damn good movie to waste our money on.
If we don't get that.
Step 1. Vcdquality
Step 2. Torrents
And that's how easy it is to entertain yourself in your boredom instead of wasting 9$ on the same ***** movie. - noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Jodie Foster's movies are all the same? I agree.
I still get "Silence of the Lambs" and "Bugsy Malone" mixed up. - skydivingdutch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yeah doom sucked - it wasn't hardly on mars, 1st person scene was all of 5 minutes, and worst of all - there was no Hell.
- skellener, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Most of the "blockbusters" are the worst culprits of "bad movies".
In the end, budget doesn't matter. People want to see good movies. - Jimzip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I agree. I mean, how naive is Hollywood.. Seriously.
We don't care about explosions in the trailer and how 'This summer, 1 man' is going to do whatever, save his children and wife just like the last ten films did.
People are smarter now than they were 10 years ago, (thank you internet) and we don't want crappy stopgap movies anymore, what we want is good movies. Clever movies, movies that make us think, like the Matrix 1, or Fight Club. V for Vendetta was great! Give us a good storyline and a clever script!
And give up on the frickin' sequel thing. For god's sake, if you put out one more Mission Impossible, or another damned remake of a 'beloved 60's classic' I'm going to kill everyone in Hollywood!
The point I want to make to Hollywood is this: Start listening to your audience, and stop working with formulas that are geared towards idiots. If you want our money, give us something we want to pay to see.
/rant
Jimzip :D - spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7That's the crappy thing. A movie based on the original Doom storyline would have been amazing, but the ***** that made it were too worried about what overprotective parents are going to be saying about the film, so they cut out everything that made it Doom and put in that stupid first person view.
The essense of Doom was going to HELL and killing demons. Big, scary badass demons. Any movie that sells itself as having to do with Doom better have me pissing my pants or I won't be satisfied. - Web_Weasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7That's because they have the brainpower of an infant.
- ChuckTaylor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7people try so hard to find out why movies are bombing, and they overlook the most obvious and simple reason.
alot of these movies simly do NOT look entertaining. Have some originality,and people will come... - jumjum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6No one watched Cinderella Man because Million Dollar Baby was horrible, and it won 28 awards. The public can't take you seriously when you give awards to the wrong thing, what's to stop them from thinking the next boxing movie will be any different?
Television marketing for films is horrendous. They need to have the person that directed the film make the TV commercials instead of hiring some moron company to do it. If I see another horror movie marketed like an action film, I'm going to vomit. They even marketed "Lucky Number Slevin" as a comedy, and it's an action film.
If they made movies that didn't look like a car leaving the assembly line (the constricted way they currently shoot movies), they would be more entertaining and watchable. I don't care how good a Rolls-Royce looks, I won't watch 200 of them rolling out of the factory every day, week, month or year, I'll get tired of it. A good start would be to remove things like Continuity People and other positions that obviously just bog down the production while making the movie seem less real, fake even. People want real, it's what makes stuff entertaining, and Hollywood's movies are anything -but- real. - Jimzip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"and WHAT is with all the remakes?! it's impossible that the entire scriptwriting world is so devoid of new ideas that the only recourse is to make miami vice into a movie."
Good job son. Good job.
Actually a scriptwriter friend of mine was talking to me about how all the decent scriptwriters actually boycott Hollywood a few years back, not many of them have come crawling back. I don't know whether it's truth or not, but it would explain Bewitched at least..
Jimzip :D - Tonyisbad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I agree with oliverc, movies over the past 12-18 months have sucked big time, with occasional good movies here and there but not like years before, but i do agree that 2006 is shaping up rather well with Inside man and V for Vendetta, and MI3, DaVinci, and X-Men 3 looking like they will surely have my 19.00 bucks for my girl and me. All I ask this summer/movie season is that you don't ruin my childhood by slaughtering one of my favorite movie franchise slash comic book hero with Superman Returns, i promise you if you ruin it for me, me and many other people like me will make you wish you never got into the movie biz! and that's all i have to say to film execs! Anyway, all the hype in the world can't save a horrible movie, while it is true word of mouth does rule, that's how i discovered Wedding crashers and 40-yr old virgin last year, it wasn't the adds or trailers it was other friends who took a gamble and it paid off and told me how funny it was and how i had to go see it. Gotta love those sleeper hits...
- piratearggghhh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Ok ticket prices at my local theater in the LA area are roughly $10. (matinee and student prices are still a joke) Add a soda and a popcorn and that's an additional $10. So it costs me $20 to watch a movie and if I pay for a date, that's almost $40 I gotta shell out for a movie. I'm going to pick the best movies to watch and not just attend for the heck of it. If everyone in Hollywood takes their head out of its asses and realizes that it's not worth it anymore and stop acting so self-deserving of high pay, maybe prices will go back to reasonable amounts and then MAYBE we'll go watch a movie once in a while that's not a blockbuster. Right now, what theaters should pretty much do is close down when it's not summer or winter.
- SuperGhost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6How do you get suckered to see Stealth? The movie looked like a pancake being thrown out of Tom Hanks second story window... I couldn't even watch the commercials for that movie it looked so sunk.
I truly feel sorry for you. If it was your friend or girlfriend that suckered you to see it... Kick ass or dump, respectively. - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'll tell ya who to blame!
WOW... - BlindIrishman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5But the problem with trailers nowadays is that they either reveal too much of the plot, show every bit of cool cgi in the movie, or half the jokes. They just need to peak interest without making the movie boring to watch.
- haruki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I agree with your outline of the formulaic problem Hollywood has. But, there are exceptions to the rule... David Lynch for instance. Also, I'm assuming you meant 'V' as in 'V for Vendetta' and not 'V' as in the sci-fi miniseries or Pynchon novel. If so, you should definitely check out the graphic novel it's "based" on, much more rewarding piece of work then the Hollywood dumbed down version.
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I went to Flight plan with my girlfriend, we stopped and got some food before hand and they wouldnt let us take it in(pizza's not easily hideable, and still enjoyable) so we ate it just outside and rushed into the theater because we were late to begin with so we figured so what we miss the previews big deal.
Got in sat down watched the movie when it ended we thought DAMN that was really short. well it seems that they were showing flight plan in 2 adjacent theaters and they were 1 hour apart, we went into the one that was already playing, and you know what, neither of us noticed it because the previews gave most of it away we thought we picked up the movie about 10 minutes into it.
I have 4 movie tickets gift cards that were given to me for Christmas and I have yet to use them, how sad is it that there are no movies out since Christmas that I think are even worth going to see for free.
I think the same about downloading them, there hasn't been anything that I am willing to even waste bandwidth on, and i'm on a very fast connection so its not like I have to wait or anything, there is simply nothing out there worth watching. - Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Actually, Larry the Cable Guy tanked big time. I was quite surprised.
- soft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Looks to me like the biggest problem here is they are obsessed with demographics - so much so that they are simply manufacturing boring generic products with little originality and therefore next to no appeal to the consumer.
- Flooq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Whereas with Stealth, the other movie mentioned, probably had the worst trailer of the year (mostly because the movie had a ***** premise though).
- Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7i have to agree, more of my girl friends saw the movie than my guy friends.
I loved that movie though, so damn good! - TheGrinReaper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I almost don't know if this is actually a "call" for better movies. It seems more like a call for the employment of a wider demographic search. She says "It's the Movies, idiot" but I think she's implying "It's the type of movies". In such a case I really don't see her message as being all that great. She uses Doom and Stealth, two terrible and terribly reviewed films as the two main examples of why people aren't going to the movies, yet just recently a film like "Slither" comes out, gets quite good reviews for the type of movie it is and doesn't even get in the top five for its first weekend. (It never got to my area so can anyone give a decent opinion of the film?)
Her heart may be in the right place but her arguments remain in the dark focus group alley of Hollywood. - noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Surely they meant "...and why teenage boys and girls and cocaine are a studio executive's worst habit"?
- gildude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I guess one of the things I get tired of is that every movie seems to be a "formula" movie. You know, like the old "A Team" TV show. Bad guys do something, good guys fight it. Bad guys get good guys in a bad position (captured, whatever). Bad guys do something stupid. Good guys do something improbable. Bad guys go to jail.
The Hollywood movies are just like that; the formula may be different than the TV show, but you can certainly sit there in the theater and call out exactly what will happen next. Like when my wife and I went to see "Failure to Launch" and the WHOLE THEATER knew that the only reason that the main character got tossed off the boat near the end was so that there was an excuse to have the dolphin show up again. Surprise us with something! At least V did some of that. - FireStrife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't purely agree with this Article entirely because the author was hell bent on pointing out that boys were like cause of everything I mean the fact is there, but everything was like "oh the teenage boys" was the cause of this movie going up and so. If the movie is good there will be merits to it, If there is nothing great about a movie then not really. I mean Doom was taking on a gaming concept with first person view style not the greatest movie of all time but surely experimental and inquire-able, as Doom was pretty scary as a game for its time and subsequent sequels. This author clearly compared Stealth's low number which the movie was a shamble anyways from the critics review. So there were somethings that the article writer had emphasized which weren't really all that big.
- Midnightbrewer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Honestly, you think the Christian right would support any movie that involves going to Hell and kicking ass. After all, it's not like it would have been the first movie made involving Hell or anything.
Reading this article really makes it obvious why Hollywood is losing it. They rely more on statisical marketing analysis (if that's not a pseudo-science, I don't know what is) than actually just reading a script and saying, "Ooh, I'd actually pay to see that movie!" - jorgefeucht, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4see, now you did it...
you just gave them an idea, just wait a couple of months and you will see a trailer for Miami Vice the movie. - TinnCan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I actually payed for two tickets and drove like 200 miles round trip to see Thank You For Smoking... I never even go to the local theaters... Make entertaining movies and we will go...
- e3mw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm glad he mentioned how bad Stealth was. I cannot believe I got suckered into seeing that crap-shoot. I wanted my money back after that film. It was the worst film I have ever seen hands down. The hype behind it made the movie worse, too.
- maxium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'd like to apologize to everyone on this thread... they just announced the remake to "Revenge of the Nerds"... my bad..
- daggerhart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@jackwhispers
you're right. that article is way better. - CoolHandLuke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"see, now you did it...
you just gave them an idea, just wait a couple of months and you will see a trailer for Miami Vice the movie. "
Seriously... They have filmed a Miami Vice movie. I got to visit the set one night while they were filming in Miami. Most of the crew stayed at the Mayfair hotel (I was installing the VOD system in the hotel). A couple of free movies for the crew garnered an invite to the set. -
Show 51 - 100 of 125 discussions
