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- inactive, on 10/08/2008, -8/+65Ron Paul predicted this movie but you people wouldn't listen. Wake up, America!
- EximiousPress, on 10/07/2008, -1/+39My skepticism towards this project diminishes everyday. Snyder really seemed to have fought for the vision and it's going to be one hell of a final product.
- ChristophyBrown, on 10/08/2008, -3/+26Strayed far from the book, yes. Piece of crap, no.
- inactive, on 10/08/2008, -1/+23I"m reading Watchmen right now, good *****!
- TrevorBradley, on 10/08/2008, -4/+19Best stay away from this one then. Watchmen is heavily politically influenced, just originally from 1980's politics.
Go rent Power Rangers or something... Should be more to your taste. - mcsenget, on 10/08/2008, -1/+11Who directed V for Vendetta?
Not Zach Snyder. - XtheXlanternX, on 10/08/2008, -0/+9Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
- ShadySpace, on 10/08/2008, -0/+9The only thing that is not about the War on Terror is the War on Terror.
- thirty6chambers, on 10/08/2008, -1/+9i want to dropkick you in the eye.
- bonniegrrl, on 10/07/2008, -2/+10Haters to the left! I can't wait to see this on the big screen!
- mcsenget, on 10/08/2008, -3/+11and it looks frickin' AWWWWWFUL
- bobdance, on 10/08/2008, -1/+9Is it your goal to be dugg down as much as possible?
- MooseTaag, on 10/08/2008, -0/+8What the -*****- are you talking about?
- blugill, on 10/08/2008, -0/+7I can't wait for this movie!
One of the best graphic novels I've ever read!
This is truly an ambitious movie project!!!! - positron, on 10/08/2008, -0/+7Anarchism does not fall on the left-right political spectrum. It's in the authority-liberty spectrum.
- inactive, on 10/08/2008, -5/+11Well, the Jews have pretty much started all wars since the dawn of time. Jesus told me at a party.
- diggB, on 10/07/2008, -0/+6I was wondering how Snyder was going to handle the various meta stories ("Under the Hood", the "Black Freighter", etc.) in the movie. Looks like there will be a DVD released at the same time to fill in the gaps. Truly ambitious, I must say.
FTA.
"We are creating it as an animated film and it is our hope that on the DVD that we can put those sequences into the DVD so they are woven right into the the actual story line of the movie, in the theatrical release that won't be the case. But we're going to release a DVD at the time of the theatrical release there is going to be a DVD that has a mock documentary on it called "Under The Hood" that is a TV show from '85 where this guy looks back to '72 ..." - smmakira, on 10/08/2008, -0/+6That funny all I read was "Hey. I'm a douche."
- alleged, on 10/08/2008, -0/+5Watchmen...I just can't quit you!
- Thepirateking, on 10/08/2008, -0/+5you are an ass. I love that you think it's funny to try and spoil a book that's how many years old now?
- mysedai, on 10/08/2008, -0/+5You do know that the House of Parliament is in London, right? And, the government they were over throwing seemed pretty full of British accents to me...
- Soup4Brains, on 10/08/2008, -0/+5Still sidestepping questions about the ending? Ugh. This movie will be ruined for me if I have to spend the whole thing wondering how they ruined the ending.
- SissySlapParty, on 10/08/2008, -0/+5Why would you go out of your way to spoil a great story for someone who was genuinely interested in it?
Do you feel satisfied now?
Go ***** yourself. - Chainheart2, on 10/08/2008, -2/+6(Assuming you're talking politics) Alan Moore is an anarchist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKfF-nxjDi0 - inactive, on 10/08/2008, -2/+6did you forget your "/s" ?
- sajorojas, on 10/08/2008, -0/+4holy ***** - my brain just exploded
- tobias19, on 10/08/2008, -0/+4Dugg for Watchmen.
- Jarcon, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3At Comic Con Zack said he didn't want to modernize it or make it about the war on terror. Doing a service to the fans by keeping closer to the source material.
- KingGorilla, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3I will!
- djbuffnstuff, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3wow. you're so cool.
snape kills dumbledore. bitch. - lostray423, on 10/08/2008, -8/+11glad it's not. i'm so sick of movies with political influences in them.
- mysedai, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3I'd like to see that...
- merdiesel, on 10/08/2008, -1/+4GTFO. V for Vendetta was ***** amazing.
- mcjaggernaut, on 10/08/2008, -0/+2Dugg for Zack Snyder exceeding my expectations. I had been dreading this film; now I can't wait to watch it.
- inactive, on 10/08/2008, -0/+2hmm no... what's "the word"?
- Tezkat, on 10/08/2008, -1/+3The bird bird bird.
the bird is the word!
Didn't you know? - Arrowette, on 10/08/2008, -0/+2I know I'm outing myself as a fangirl here, but whatever. He'll hate it, for two big reasons:
1) It's directed by Zach Snyder, who directed 300, which is "racist, homophobic source material" according to Moore. (And, I might add myself, is made even more racist and right-wing propaganda-ish in the film version than in the [*****] graphic novel, which is also, incidentally, a total farce of the historical record.)
2) Moore doesn't think that graphic novels belong on the big screen period, because (paraphrased) "graphic novels are meant to be read in a big comfy armchair next to a fire, so that the reader can see something on page 72 that reminds him of a clue on page 39, and can turn back and read that passage."
I happen to agree on both points, and would add a third: it is *impossible* to include the necessary level of detail and backstory in the film version of a graphic novel, especially one as nuanced as The Watchmen (which I'm not even particularly a fan of, though I adore Alan Moore's work on Swamp Thing, which anyone who reads this should check out IMMEDIATELY).
Here are some reasons that he would probably hate it, based on what they will probably do in the film (based on what happened in 300 as well as other comic book movies):
3) Rorschach will probably be presented as a hero or a glorious anti-hero rather than the dangerous anti-villain that he is in the graphic novel. (Which is the worst possible offense against a work of art that a film can commit--not being true to the spirit of the characters. See TDK, or "whiny emo bitch Spidey-ripoff Batman.")
4) The love story will probably be given undue emphasis (because all comic book movies are ruined with gay-ass formulaic romances).
5) Judging by the trailer, there will probably be more violence in the movie than in the graphic novel (which, at my count, has about eight incidences of violence throughout). Otherwise--sorry, action fans--every single incidence of violence that takes place in the film was also in the trailer.
To be clear, I'm not one of those anal fangirls who insists that every aspect of a film must be identical with the graphic novel's, because the spirit of the story is what's important, not the details. I'm just (1) always on the writer's side, and (2) really sick of *****, ***** writing in comic book movies (see: every comic book movie in history, excepting "History of Violence" and "Batman Begins"), especially when they have budgets equal to the GNP of small eastern European nations. - mcsenget, on 10/08/2008, -3/+5heh
- pe5t1lence, on 10/08/2008, -0/+2Yeah... on second thought, maybe we don't need to know.
- bshock, on 10/08/2008, -0/+2Typical Hollywood -- "improve" an award-winning story by crapping on it.
Bravo to Snyder for resisting. I'm really looking forward to this film... if Fox doesn't manage to kill it. - inactive, on 10/08/2008, -0/+2I thought The Dark Knight was about the War on Terror.
- inactive, on 10/08/2008, -1/+3Reported.
- KegBol, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2I was scared to death that Hollywood would try to 'improve' this, or 'update' it in EXACTLY the ways that they apparently suggested. Goddamn, that would have pissed me right off. Good work Snyder.
[Even though I thought 300 was fascistic nonsense] - Arrowette, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2@mysedai: Yeah, Alan Moore is a few steps on the other side of sanity (though I'm not sure if there's any proof that his "snake god" stuff isn't just meant to ***** with people--like Nirvana's meta-comedy interviews back in 1992, where the band members said they met because of their love of interpretive dance).
But on the issue of his graphic novels being turned into movies, he's 100% sane. Look at what happened to League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Constantine (a character that he created), and V for Vendetta (which, while a solid film in itself, totally violates the principles behind the graphic novel's creation). Moore wasn't ALWAYS against his graphic novels being turned into films.
I agree with you on faithfulness to graphic novels (and covers, too). The details can and should be changed, especially to fit the visual medium. But if the essence of the story and spirit of the characters isn't right, then the movie sucks IMO--and this has happened with every comic book movie in my recollection except for History of Violence, Batman Begins, and some Marvel stuff (I don't really read Marvel, so I don't have a basis for comparison). - mysedai, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1You kind of forgot to add that Alan Moore is more than a little touched in the head. To be fair, truly sane people rarely turn out great works of art or literature.
I'm still hopeful for this movie. Snyder has fought the studio to try and keep things true to the source material, and, personally, I don't want it to be 100% faithful. That would be like one of those god-awful covers of classic rock songs that sound EXACTLY the same as the old one. I want Snyder to take a few liberties and turn out a movie that I want to watch a couple dozen times, just Alan Moore turned out a graphic novel I wanted to read a couple dozen times. - KegBol, on 10/09/2008, -0/+1What an arsehole you are.
- mysedai, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1The ending of Watchmen is only about a shocking "twist" if you have the intelligence of a sack of salty pretzels. The ending is about the moral and ethical dilemmas of the characters and the choice of the greater good over justice.
Apparently, you just owned yourself in one paragraph. - mysedai, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Maybe his magic snake will advise him to see the movie...
- Arrowette, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Actually, I agree, and I'm a comic book reader who read Watchmen several years ago. I just can't get into most Alan Moore works (other than his Swamp Thing, which is AMAZING). I think his characters are sort of hollow and unbelievable, though he has great talent with these intricate, nuanced stories--they just lack the immediacy of the human condition that writers such as Vaughan and Morrison capture so well, even in the meta-human/superhero genre.
Moore has great creative talent, but not for character-readers, rather than plot-readers. - whatthefu, on 10/08/2008, -3/+4It was a cheesy movie. The Wachowskis "updated" it to make it more appealing to a "modern" audience, which was the wrong way to go about it in the first place. They turned V into a "freedom fighter" and made the government incredibly one-dimensional. Not to mention it was riddled with plotholes.
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