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- michaelpinto, on 07/10/2008, -1/+81It's hard not to Digg a story with both a Pixar and Beatles reference...
- Jeffler, on 07/11/2008, -3/+68If XKCD makes a comic about this article, and Obama shows it to the crowd on his iPhone, digg would explode
- vinceislegend, on 07/11/2008, -5/+64Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall-E
- sock2828, on 07/11/2008, -0/+53Start using LSD?
- rgladstein, on 07/11/2008, -0/+34Since I don't know a lot about the Beatles, the Rubber Soul reference is kind of lost on me -- I guess the point is that they've begun a phase in which they're sufficiently respected and accomplished that they're given a lot of freedom to experiment.
In any case, it's an excellent article, and anyone who's a fan a Ghibli Studios is OK by me. - assbeard, on 07/11/2008, -2/+31I just saw it last night. ***** phenomenal movie. Pixar just doesn't make bad movies. The level of detail in the character modeling was fantastic. The fact that they used macintalk for the voice of Auto was hilarious too.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 07/11/2008, -0/+27Go buy Rubber Soul immediately
- brstilson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+26Rubber Soul is their first album that catapulted them from being just another boy band to legendary rock status. (i.e. it's when they started taking drugs)
- Brian48216, on 07/11/2008, -0/+21To me, Pixar's strength was never their technology. Anybody can do technology.
Their greatest strength has to be art direction and writing. With the art direction and style, you can easily overcome any short comings in graphical realism.
If anybody saw Final Fantasy Spirits within- the graphics were incredible. Story and art direction weren't on the level of Pixar though. - nesagwa, on 07/11/2008, -0/+17The Beatles put out HELP! the soundtrack to their second film in August 1965. Featurd songs like Help, Act Naturally, Ticket to Ride, etc. Save for one oddity (Yesterday) it was pretty much more of the early 60s straight forward dance type rock or ballads they had been doing forever.
In December 1965 they released Rubber Soul that contained songs like Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man, Think for Yourself, etc.
The change was mostly in subject matter rather than musical style (that didnt really start until Revolver), either more inward looking or more critical of the world around them.
Thats where the comparison comes from. - inactive, on 07/11/2008, -0/+16"now that Pixar has mastered the technology, how do they evolve? "
They get more psychedelic.
A Pixar movie in the vein of Alice in Wonderland or Fantasia would be super awesome. Make it just right and it would be a cult classic for decades.
I really want to listen to some Beatles now. - defectDS, on 07/11/2008, -5/+20EEee...EEEEEee.... Eeeeeeeee-vvvuhhhhhhhh?
- TwistyMcFister, on 07/11/2008, -4/+18Dugg for Wall-e
Awesome movie!!!! - SkippyDoorknob, on 07/11/2008, -0/+13Yoko's on her way to the Pixar board of directors...
- DaHuuuuuudge, on 07/11/2008, -0/+12I think the universe would just stop. No need to keep going after reaching perfection.
- inactive, on 07/11/2008, -0/+12It really pushed music production at the time, as well as songwriting.
It's what made Brian Wilson go and write Pet Sounds, as it (Rubber Soul) was the first real "album"...ie, the songs fit together and it felt more cohesive overall. Pet Sounds, then pushed the limits one more time, and the Beatles, inspired by that, wrote and released Revolver. Brian Wilson then started to go crazy and wanted to release a psychedelic album by the name of Smile, which never came out, but inspired the Beatles to do the super ambitious Sgt. Peppers
Get Rubber Soul, then Pet Sounds, then Revolver, then some 68 Smile bootlegs, then Sgt. Peppers. With all these albums and the battle of the Beatles and Beach Boys, it shows you the entire revolution from 60's pop to psychedelic 70's rock...and it all started with Rubber Soul. Music would sound entirely different today if it was never released. - Malacandra95, on 07/11/2008, -0/+12You pretty much nailed it, except that Rubber Soul was the *beginning* of them earning respect. Up until Rubber Soul, the Beatles were considered disposable pop for adolescents.
When Rubber Soul came out, they started being taken seriously as artists and musicians. Partially, it was because they were showing a greater range of influences and writing more thoughtful, reflective songs (not so much "I Wanna Hold Your Hand!"). Songs like "Nowhere Man", "I'm Looking Through You", and "In My Life".
They hadn't yet started to break new ground in the recording studio, that would become apparent in their new two albums, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's... but they were showing full mastery of song craft... and musicians - and "grownups" - had taken notice. - inactive, on 07/11/2008, -0/+11Instead of office chair, package contained bobcat..
- Lucas123, on 07/11/2008, -0/+10I know I'm going to get buried into tomorrow, but I've got to pick Rubber Soul and Revolver over Sgt. Pepper's. Sgt. Pepper's is a great album -- no doubt -- but I never got why people hailed it as the Beatles' masterpiece. I'd even put the "white album" over it -- it's vastly more eclectic.
- Kajico, on 07/11/2008, -0/+9You never master the technology because every new film presents a challenge in one form or another.
- GrammerPants, on 07/11/2008, -0/+9As a kids movie it needed dialog. Because that's what kids like. But as a movie for an adult to enjoy, it was my kind of movie. Some times words are not necessary to enjoy a film. Castaway for example, or to a lesser extent I am Legend.
- xOKxWhy, on 07/11/2008, -1/+10Pixar's next movie is going to be their best?
- skinnyskittles, on 07/11/2008, -0/+7i actually consider abbey road to be their best
- Terr01, on 07/11/2008, -0/+7Would not buy again.
- bjs3171, on 07/11/2008, -0/+6they did invent the technology, though. they literally wrote the original software themselves while still part of Lucas Films. so, it's a pretty big strength. but yes, the reason their movies are stil relevant is because they write some of the best stories being told today. period.
- savethejets, on 07/11/2008, -1/+7Are we just waiting for pixar's Yoko then?
- bjs3171, on 07/11/2008, -0/+6yep. and that was really the most important aspect of the movie, what Wall-E looks like.
- fracktica, on 07/11/2008, -0/+6The ticket to see WALL-E was the best $8 I've spent in a great while. The animation was terrific, but this is the first pixar film where I didn't realize that until thinking about it later... I was just simply too enthralled with the life of that little robot.
A friend of mine thought the movie was too "message heavy"... I just don't understand... are taking care of the environment and being more self-reliant really terrible messages? I'm not all that political, but I felt that WALL-E spoke to us as human beings, not democrats or republicans. The flaws of trashing the environment and becoming useless blobs are primarily human ones, not political ones. - pleeker, on 07/11/2008, -0/+6My 10-year-old and 6-year-old were absolutely enthralled by the movie, from start to finish. You're really underestimating a child's imagination.
- amadeusdemarzi, on 07/11/2008, -0/+6Actually, if you look back on Spirits Within today, it doesn't look to hot anymore. It was amazing when it came out, but movies such as WallE blow it out of the water in visual quality.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 07/11/2008, -0/+5Disney bought Pixar awhile back (shortly after Eisner was shown the road). Steve Jobs is now the largest single shareholder of Disney.
- paidhima, on 07/11/2008, -0/+5It's interesting to watch people deride Wall-E for being preachy. It's as if they've completely forgotten that the artistic medium has been an outlet for progressive, and sometimes subversive, thought throughout history. If Wall-E had a message, it's not so much doom-and-gloom as it is mildly cautionary. It's not "humans suck; look what happens!" It's more "maybe take some notice - this future is not out of the realm of possibility."
- HappyScrappy, on 07/11/2008, -2/+7Pixar had already mastered the technology. They've made a ton of good films already. Did you somehow miss Ratatoullie?
- schavira, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4I thought Rubber Soul was primarily motivated by pot. Now Revolver on the other hand...
- Mudcrutch, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4It's not the technology that makes the movies great, it is the animation and story-telling.
- inactive, on 07/10/2008, -2/+6Great work keep it up
- SkippyDoorknob, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4Looks closer, the eye shape is different and Johnny 5 had "eyebrow" flaps while Wall-E has none.
- inajeep, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4No, anybody can not do technology. Bad visual or audio can and do ruin movies. Pixar's strength is to be able to have two strengths. Tech and story telling. Each is a blend of many different components and it cheapens it slightly to roll it up into a ball and call it technology.
Keep doing what your doing Pixar. - bagurka, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4Pixar doesn't master the technology, Pixar has always been on the leading edge developing and evolving the technology. Toy Story 1 & 2 may seem outdated now, but back when they were released, they were cutting edge same as latest Pixar movies today.
Besides, it's the story and the characters what makes Pixar movies genius, not just the beautiful CGI and animation.
Hence comparison to the Beatles, who were a pop boy band before Rubber Soul and became the Beatles Beatles after, is wrong. Pixar has been Pixar since the first lamp clip :) - tcpip4lyfe, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4Everyone time wall-e reboot it's the old school mac noise. I laughed my ass off when I heard it.
- SaintStryfe, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4I didn't love Cars either, but let me play devil's advocate;
Cars had an awesome message. Just because it's not the newest, it's not bad. Lightning thinks it's purgatory being stuck in a small town, until he starts to learn that even a quiet place out of the spot light can have all kinds of things to love.
I think the casting was the worst mistake. A lot of Pixar's fans did not gravitate toward the Auto Racing legends, and of course it had Larry the Cable Guy, which is a huge turn off. But then again, it drew in a lot of people. Granted many of these people missed the storyline entirely, but hey.
The story itself was stock. Meerly stock. But done beautifully.
The movie is not at all one of my favorites, but it is far, far from bad. Definitely not retarded.
Beside, anything with George Carlin playing an Anthropomorphic VW Bus can't be all bad. - o0joshua0o, on 07/11/2008, -1/+5Alice in Wonderland was Walt Disney's least favorite animated film.
Fantasia bombed at the theaters.
In summary: Great idea! - jsbyrnes, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4Ok, if you don't get the Beatles references, here's what happened. The first few Beatles albums and singles, (Please Please Me, With the Beatles) don't have anything them that was particularly revolutionary, but at the time they were considered to be very advanced for popular music. There was lots of covers, the songs were all about simple teenage relationships, most of the songs had the same structure as most pop songs, etc, but there were also a lot of originals and they had their own sound. Hopefully the analogy to Pixar here is clear - animated movies weren't new, but they took a new direction and really perfected them. The next few Beatles albums have some evolution in sound("Yesterday" made #1 in America even though it was their first song to feature only one Beatle, and only one instrument), but didn't really break through into totally uncharted area for popular music. Rubber Soul comes out about the same time they started using LSD, and is the first more experimental work. Most of the songs have a conventional sound to them, but things are clearly changing. There are songs that are just about sex, something that could get an album banned back then, and they started trying things that no one had done in pop before - such as the sitar on Norwegian Wood. Then with Revolver nothing is held back - there are songs totally done with Indian instruments, backwards vocals and solos are common throughout the album, the lyrics are highly eclectic, and they practically invented countless production methods that are still in use today. The next album, Sgt Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band, is full blown psychedelia that accomplished even more than Revolver. The point the author is making is that WALL-E is Pixar's first step into something truly different, and they see them as developing in the same way that the Beatles' sound did.
- asnider, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3Though environmentalism is a strong theme in the movie, it's almost an afterthought in a lot of ways. Wall-E is, at it's core, an endearing love story with traces of an adventure movie. While I won't deny that there are some political overtones, they are easily overlooked if you don't agree with them.
- SaintStryfe, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3They explained it better in one of the first comments, but to make the short version: It was the album that marked the Beatles' turn from disposable pop of the era to being a major musical force.
- ZoomBoy, on 07/11/2008, -1/+4If Kevin Rose exploded, Kevin Rose would explode.
- pnunn, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3And all that would be left were 50 diggers complaining that when they submitted the same thing it didn't make front page.
- Senturion, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3For the people complaining that Wall-E was not good for kids my question is...why does that matter?
Is it not acceptable for Pixar to make animated movies that are not for kids, that appeal to a broader audience or even a narrower, but different one?
This argument that animation = kids is the exact reason that people still think video games are for kids.
Just because something broke into society as something for kids doesn't mean it can't evolve past that. (See: The Simpsons, Family Guy, Grand Theft Auto, etc.)
Wall-E is a fantastic movie. - quomen, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3If Xenu sneezed, the Universe would a 'splode.
- KrazyIan, on 07/11/2008, -0/+3In my opinion, Abbey Road is their finest hour. Incredible album start to finish.
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