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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+88You don't know much about nuclear testing, do you?
- Warptera, on 10/12/2007, -1/+76"This was a US nu-det on Amchitka Island, in 1971, Alaska, there were 2 other tests on this island in the Rat Island chain. It was supposedly the largest underground nuclear detonation."
- copperkidd, on 10/12/2007, -9/+40It's amazing we haven't blown the planet up yet.
I know.. I know.. Give us time.. - seattle98104, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32um... you saw the ground shaking right? and splitting open?
i think that's what is called an "earthquake".
from wikipedia causes of earthquakes "Finally, ground shaking can also result from the detonation of explosives. ". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27There have been many of these nuclear tests done. If you want to learn more, I suggest you check out the film "Trinity and Beyond: The Atomic Bomb Movie."
- nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -8/+32Digg - The world's first collection of user submitted nuclear bomb tests as sorted by user vote!
http://digg.com/search?search=Atomic+Test&submit=Search&area=all&type=both&age=60&search-buried=on
http://digg.com/search?search=Nuclear+Test+Video&submit=Search&area=all&type=both&age=60&search-buried=on
It's what web 2.0 is all about! - ianam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19You think the U.S. government "would never be allowed to do that" and can't "get the materials needed for an a-bomb"?
"but i could be wrong"
Gee, ya think? - manatee, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21holy cow... what are they teaching in school these days? Sure...Spielberg is behind this. Ever heard of Hiroshima? wow
- Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16In the news today, nature responded to allegations that it had bent to man's will by hitting the United States with four hurricanes, six earthquakes, 217 tornadoes.....
- oiper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Depending on the amount of water saturation, the ground will act in many ways as a liquid under such conditions. Perhaps allowing less dense buried masses to effectively "float" to the surface.
A 10 on the richter would be the equivalent of ~94.89 times the power released from the largest thermonuclear bomb. Definitely not off the scale, but big. From what I understand, the Richter scale isn't terribly useful due to it's logarithmic curve. For earthquake comparsion/measurement seismologists use the Mercalli intensity test more often. I'm sure there is some good use for each, but I don't know much about them. - sedd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Obviously you're not from around San Francisco
- Malakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Here's the actual island on google maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&t=h&ll=51.46513,179.127274&spn=0.290886,0.603561
Couple images showing where the blast zones are on the island:
http://web.em.doe.gov/bemr96/gif/ainp1.gif
http://www.wtv-zone.com/kingdon/photos-4/amchitka-island.jpg
Tons of other readily available info from Googling :) - BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Earthquakes are many times more powerful than an atomic blast. The earthquake is a movement of the entire ***** plate or a huge section of it. It's litterally a section of the planet "moving." These blasts just blew up/quaked a small, insignifigant, ammount of that.
An atomic blast, while terrible, is but a mosquito's bite to the planet compared to an Earthquake. Although it does have many *other* ways of killing it. Much like the aforementioned mosquito analogy, the nuclear fallout/radiation could be considered malaria. - GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I am still in tears from all that laughing. Oh wow, just get off the internet!
- Mach5, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9somehow, these never get boring to watch.
- 12340987, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I like reading comments below the -4 viewing threshold. Kinda funny.
- ironbear, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Correction for you: Trinity is the site of the first above ground nuke test, and is located in New Mexico.
Here in Northern Arizona and in parts of Utah, many of us who develop cancer can collect $50,000 from Uncle Sam in the Downwinder settlement program. That is, if the victim also lived in the area of fallout during the 50's and 60's. Since I know a number of people who grew up and died from the dred disease, it seems like too little, too late. - ShaolinTiger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is from the year 1971, from Amchitka, Alaska (operation Cannikin) where 5 megaton device was detonated at the depth of 5000ft. They recorded seismic events up to 6.8 on the Richter-scale. They had over 1000 aftershocks in next 30 days. The detonation rose the surface directly above it 25ft - the whole test site permanently rose 5ft!
You guys should read this:
http://www.inthesetimes.com/projectcensored/stclair2317new.html
The after effects were pretty harsh. - Habemus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It was this particular underground nuclear test (Project Cannikin) that led to the founding of Greenpeace.
More info here:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/w71.htm
Project CANNIKIN was a nuclear test conducted on Amchitka Island, Alaska, at 11:00 a.m., Bering Standard Time, on November 6, 1971. CANNIKIN, a slightly less-than-five-megaton device, was the largest underground nuclear test conducted in the United States. CANNIKIN was conducted to proof test a warhead for the Spartan missile, a Safeguard Ballistic Missile Defense Program. The shock registered 7.0 on the Richter scale, the seismic unit of the time. Within two days after the explosion, a crater more than one mile wide and 40 feet deep formed. - NewEvolution, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Ah yes, the Bikini Atolls. You STILL can't go anywhere near them...they're radioactive wastelands. If I'm not mistaken, that was actually a thermonuclear weapon, not just an atomic weapon (H-bomb vs. A-bomb). You KNOW you've got something serious on your hands when it needs a full fledged atomic bomb to act as the TRIGGER.
In other news, the colorized poster of one of the Bikini Atoll explosions is goddamn awesome:
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/2/Posters/PO7029.jpg - ptoast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Tin foil hat!
This happened in Alaska. So where was the tsunami that this explosion caused? Surely we would have heard of it right? Or are you just forgetting that actual earthquakes the size of the one that caused the Indonesian are much much much much more powerful than any bomb we have created? - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Muahahaha, man has mastered the elements of earth and fire, nature bends to his will!
- Woknblues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4that music was right out of an episode of "the streets of san francisco"...
- chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4But to say all Americans support the creation and testing of massive nuclear devices is a bit moronic, also these nuke tests were during the cold war, not now so Bush really had nothing to do with that video. That being said I'm not a big fan of Bush or anything, but we really can't blame cold war nuclear bomb testing on him... yet.
- nickurfe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I was an Air Traffic Controller in the tower at Nellis when they did the last underground test after the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. All the other controllers kept checking the time and when I asked what they were waiting for they just told me to wait. The tower actually started to sway from the shockwave. These things happen pretty far underground. Although the tests were basically safe, it is just ignorant to say
"These tests were conducted before we knew the consequences of our actions. We weren't aware of the long-lasting damage they would have caused. These wouldn't have been detonated on American soil if we were fully aware of the lingering radiation and fallout"
Considering that we have known the effects of radiation exposure since they dropped the first bomb in the 40's and continued to detonate them on our own soil until the early 90's I would have to say that they had a pretty good idea of what the effects were by then. In fact if you consider that Marie Curie died of prolonged exposure to radiation I think we can safely conclude that they knew the long term effects of radiation long before Hiroshima. What they didn't know was how far the effects would reach or for how long the effects would linger from surface, air, underground and even water detonations, so they did what science does best, they detonated and observed. - degree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The most powerful nukes were actually created in that time. The ones we have now (that are still functional) are all weapons with yields ranging in the small kilotons. The bomb in that video most likely had a multi-megaton yield. The soviets made the largest nuke ever, the csar bomba, which had a theoretical yield of 100 megatons but was tested at only 50 or 60. They did this so that the plane dropping the bomb had time to escape so that it was at a safe distance when the shockwave hit and so that the fallout was reduced.
- ianam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Since the person you responded to didn't say anything about Hiroshima or Nagasaki or inventing nuclear weapons, there doesn't seem to be any logic in your response. As for your statement that he has no involvement in the testing of nuclear weaponry -- you're wrong. He had no involvement in the test in the picture, but testing is ongoing.
"I do not support President Bush however I will point out an ignorant dumbass."
Given your phrase "***** liberal dumbass", it seems likely that, if you aren't a Bush supporter currently, you have been in the not-too-distant past. - TikiGawd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=37%C2%B0+3%2750.65%22N+116%C2%B0+1%270.28%22W&ll=37.063944,-116.016655&spn=0.19725,0.43396&t=k
- slantyeyed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2break out the berets and the $40 che guevara t-shirts and let's go protest! everyone meet at the local starbucks in our SUV's.
- russau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2NewEvolution- that'd make a good image to put on a "our web site is broken" page...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"You STILL can't go anywhere near them...they're radioactive wastelands"
Actually thats not entirley true...
Whats amazing is that the indigenous people of those islands that lived there were moved and displaced by our very governement so we could use those very islands for these testings. This is no conspiracy theory its just buried history that never got publicity, and as soon as we felt the island was worthless for our selfish benifit we actually moved the natives back and left them to wallow in the hellish aftermath. I beleive to this day the people of the islands have thrown a class action suit against the US for obvious offspring abnormalities and sudden death.
I think in the mid 90's the Islands were actually a tourist desitination for Scuba enthusiasts
America 1 | Another indiginous culture displaced by the US Government. 0
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0807551.html - giveaphuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2knightblade - thats 100% cool with me!! :)i was also pointing out 'an ignorant dumbass' ie/bush..
- chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've discussed this with my Geography teacher as well, I am no expert but the reason we want India to have nuclear power is they (like China) are expanding extremely fast economically, with that comes more energy usage, which drives up oil prices. If they use nuclear, it alleviates some of the stress on oil (which the US is addicted to), and helps our economy (at least energy wise).
- cakefart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pssst: Some crazy guy no one has ever head of, Linus...
Pauling, yeah, that's the ticket, got a Nobel prize for getting folks to agree that setting these things off in the atmosphere was a bad idea. It's estimated that the treaty has saved 100,000 lives (due to reduction in leukemia and other cancers) a year.
Good thing those wacky guys, The French, didn't sign it, still set off atmospheric blasts, and like to sink Peace Activist ships in foreign harbors from time to time. Otherwise, they wouldn't be morally superior to the insensitive clods in the New World.
Add or subtract sarcasm tags as you see fit. - LaCamiseta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Where does this happen? Simple, about an hour from here in Las Vegas at the Nevada Test Site. The ground out there is covered with what look like big craters, but are actually locations of previous nuclear tests.
Back in the day they used to do above-ground testing, and the air-raid alarms would go off in Las Vegas when they would do that. People would run up to the rooftops of hotels and parking garages to see the flash of light and feel the breeze created afterwards.
Oh, and during the cold war, we were in the top 5 of the lists that the Soviets wanted to bomb due to the fact that the US nuclear bombers were, and still are, based at Nellis AFB on the outside of time. - steevo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think theoretically they could but it could not be done by one bomb, even the biggest bombs their just not big enough, it would probably have to be in the magnitude of tens of thousands of megatons, so there becomes a practicality issue
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that's a tremendous amount of energy....
- cheeze69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Rent Atomic Journeys from Netflix. It's got a ton of filmed detonations from the various testing programs decades ago. Here is the link: http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=60002720
Also, I bought a VHS tape years ago from a museum called Trinity and Beyond. It was very similar if you can find a copy of that.
You'll recognize the footage in this Digg's video from those films. It's decades old. - JonGretar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1koshak. What's the big difference? India is just currently on our side.
- davidkain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Good point. I would assume governments today would be more concerned with tactical precision in their weapons of mass destruction, rather than outright genocide. Well, most of them anyway.
- steevo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The US hasn't done any nuclear testing for over 10 years if i'm not mistaken, they put a self imposed embargo on nuclear testing sometime after the fall of comunist russia
- knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1at first i thought you were referring to me.... I was wondering what the hell you were talking about.
but i figured it out. lol. - xpack10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1check out the water in the first shot being vaporized
- giveaphuk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3knightblade - well president bush HAS RECENTLYdone a deal with india to sell uranium to them fo 'peaceful' purposes (funny that pakistan, their neighbours & enemy has recently done a series of underground nuclear tests!). & also is @ present ENCOURAGING AUSTRALIA to seel uranium to them too..
how ironic, considering their stance on iran wanting to use nuclear energy, don't they have alot of oil?
hmmmm, BUSH has blood on his hands! - knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes, but what this ignorant fool didn't seem to understand is that President Bush had no involvment in the development, testing, or use of the atomic, nuclear, or hydrogen bomb.
I do not support President Bush however I will point out an ignorant dumbass. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Prove it ianam. Show me where a nuclear weapon has been detonated underground by the US in the last 14 years.
- tylerni7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Although his reasons are bull, I don't know if this is real. Wouldn't we have heard about this if something had happened? Wouldn't the bomb need to be incredibly deep for just the smoke to come out? It's an awesome video, but I'm a bit skeptical about it being an atomic bomb.
- sirchadlington, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its definately something that is very VERY creepy. Unfortunately the video has no real good details on where it happened or when :(
- Kailash.Nadh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Scary
- spacenettnet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1awesome
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