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- iDoraemon, on 09/06/2009, -18/+470Totally retarded to compare anime movies to Disney movies. That's like comparing Tarantino flicks to Kurosawa flicks. They're like apples and oranges.
I mean, look. The author of the article already demonstrated that he's a Wapanese by the sentence "Here are ten anime movies that surpass virtually anything Disney has made, including the Pixar films" alone. No, not including Pixar films. Shut up, article writer. - nmffffd9, on 09/06/2009, -6/+237the visual in the 5CM Per Second screenshot looks amazing.
- socivitus, on 09/06/2009, -15/+208Dugg for Akira being #2. The kiddies who watch anime nowadays bash it as overrated and confusing (the manga was still in print and the film was a way made to sell more books without killing the whole story).They don't realize just how incredible it was for its time. Many of the anime films today wish they could blow the minds of viewers the way Akira did over 20 years ago.
- Falldog, on 09/06/2009, -38/+207Why is Akira all the way up there? All of the other movies on that list are better. Just because it was a gateway for a lot of fans, it's still lacking, especially when compared to the source manga.
The Cowboy Bebop movie, when compared to the series, is just an elongated episode that unfortunately spends to much time on Spike. The movie is a horrible way to introduce people to the series. There's no substantial character development or introductions. It doesn't really achieve the level of all the Miyazaki films omitted in this list.
I'd say that most Pixar films are better than half of this list. Yet to suggest they're really a product of Disney is unfair to Pixar. Disney has extremely limited control over Pixar's films as they're essentially separate companies, even in management.
Comparing anime and Disney (or American animation in general) is akin to comparing apples and oranges. They're both forms of animation that help convey a story that would otherwise be impossible with live action, yet they come in different tastes of style and have many subspecies underneath. It's easy to enjoy them both. Besides, animation is a moot point if you can't come up with a decent story and Disney (not Pixar) hasn't able to muster that in a decade. - MCA2142, on 09/06/2009, -12/+166Ghost in the Shell - "It was one of the first films to popularize Cyberpunk as an art style and vision of the future."
Blade Runner was released in 1982. And Neuromancer was written in 1984. I enjoyed Ghost in the Shell, but give credit where credit is due. - dweeb79, on 09/06/2009, -6/+144I see someone is a Cowboy Bebop fan and just wanted an excuse to get it on their list. Cowboy Bebop sucked as a film, but when you look at it as an expansion to the Bebop universe, it's pretty damn good.
I thought all anime top 10 lists include Vampire Hunter D and Ninja Scroll?
Surpass Disney? No. They're just different. - smacksaw, on 09/06/2009, -15/+150Buried for lack of tentacle porn.
Just kidding.
What is up with "animes"? There's no plural. It's just "anime", period.
Regardless, anime will always be superior because it doesn't speak down to it's audience like Disney. There's no re-writing of children's classics to make bastardised and sanitised schlock a la Disney. Anime is real. - fluidfoundation, on 09/06/2009, -2/+127My Neighbor Totoro was one of my first and favorite Miyazaki films.
I'm not afraid of dustbunnies! - macfan93, on 09/06/2009, -20/+116Surpass Pixar?
BLASPHEMY! - summersam, on 09/06/2009, -1/+94The whole movie is like that... it'll blow your mind.
- robotbebop, on 09/06/2009, -1/+87I wonder if there are people in Japan that are raging Disney fanboys writing lists of 10 Disney movies that surpass virtually every movie made by Production I.G. and Studio Ghibli.
- bunannapie, on 09/06/2009, -1/+85Grave of the Fireflies is the saddest movie I've ever seen. Ever.
- Chicken2nite, on 09/06/2009, -4/+61Considering that John Lasseter is now head of Disney Animation as well as Pixar, we'll see what happens. He is the guy who twisted Eisner's arm into making the distribution deal for Miyazaki in North America where they leave the film intact and simply dub them in English, exposing his work to Western audiences who aren't traditionally accepting of subtitled films. They've got some interesting films in the pipeline, including a PG-13 John Carter of Mars adaptation being directed by the guy behind WALL-E and Finding Nemo and a Philip K. Dick adaptation in King of the Elves, so again, we'll see.
I really liked Nausicaa. - terminalterror, on 09/06/2009, -5/+62Was it just me a little surprised to see that Titanic did so incredibly well in Japan? Sure, I wouldn't have expected it to do poorly, but to beat something like Princess Mononoke is pretty impressive.
Nice article though. I'll have to put "5CM Per Second" on my list of movies to see, as it was the only one in the article that I haven't seen, or isn't already on the list. - Bic823, on 09/06/2009, -0/+56KANEDAAAAAA
- pikimoo, on 09/06/2009, -2/+57I want to make multiple accounts to digg you up.. but I'm too lazy. So here's a digg and a comment.
It's the thought that counts! - Irishsmurf, on 09/06/2009, -2/+52http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8383/5cmm.jpg
(I understand a lot of that money went on advertising and voice actors... and that it did end up making a lot more money but hey.) - emailowndme, on 09/06/2009, -1/+47The author of this piece has never seen Perfect Blue.
If you ever get a chance to see that animated movie, check it out. It'll blow your mind. Think Memento, except it has enough content and enough mystery, to make you watch a third or fourth time to figure it all out.
(btw, it came out in the 80's so it probably predated the idea of Memento) - Crazysticks, on 09/06/2009, -16/+60Spirited away was a great story and one of my favorites, But I think Paprika or Akira deserved the #1 spot.
- zephyear, on 09/06/2009, -4/+48one of the first, not the first
- dbalaski, on 09/06/2009, -4/+48Gotta say -- they forgot one film:
Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise
which was a stellar piece of animation work -- considering it is all hand drawn by over 3000 artists --
i liked that they put effort into small details, like the shadow of an airplane on the clouds as it flys, or the rainbow effect after a test detonation in water
as for a story, i rank it up there with Akira - roboticbees, on 09/06/2009, -2/+465 centimeter per second = The most honest and depressing movie ever. Great movie.
- TheBlueVulcan, on 09/06/2009, -8/+51"Anime is real."
What? - UltimatrixmaN, on 09/06/2009, -1/+42Metropolis was great animation.
- socivitus, on 09/06/2009, -12/+49Are you sure you were watching Akira? Everything about the film was amazing. It has brilliant direction, brilliant characters, killer animation, and despite what the masses today say, an amazing story. There is depth to the story that can only be comprehended by watching it and actually THINKING about what you watch.
You have the personal struggles between the main characters, the political and social disaster of the city, Tetsuo's inability to control his powers and the greed and hatred that makes him go mad. He's a kid who felt helpless who was suddenly given godlike powers and said ***** you to the world that he thought had it out for him. Let's not forget the rebels that were trying to free the subjects from their government quarantines (which basically caused the entire story to happen). If the rebels hadn't taken Number 26, the entire story would have come out differently, but because they did, Tetsuo became the way he did, Kanada met Kay. There is even more to it, but like I said in a previous comment, the movie was made mainly to attract a broader audience to the manga, so they weren't trying to give everything away.
I do wish they had made Akira a series later on considering its success (maybe there's still hope). - smacksaw, on 09/06/2009, -6/+39Disney takes films and then rewrites them. It's not longer the real story. Anime makes no apologies, it is what it is.
That's why I like anime. Often it's either technically impossible, cost prohibitive or both to get a vision onscreen. Live action would not cut it. Whatever the filmmaker wishes to do, they can do.
Disney is the exact opposite. You have a medium where you can do anything and you rewrite the stories to make them worse? Disney has ruined so many children's classics - probably none as badly as The Little Mermaid. It is not faithful to the original material in any way, thus it is not real. - photochopped, on 09/06/2009, -0/+32By lightyears? No one surpasses Buzz Lightyear!
- unkoboy, on 09/06/2009, -0/+30im a jap and i love anime (lots of pride), but lion king still trumps all
- 42Vindictive, on 09/07/2009, -0/+28TETSUUUOOOOOOO
- JoeHague, on 09/06/2009, -1/+28Perfect Blue came out in 1997/
- browwiw, on 09/07/2009, -1/+28***** Mickey Mouse, you asshat! Everything from "Steam Boat Willie" to the present day.
- nyjets21, on 09/06/2009, -0/+24Honestly, it was like you unlocked something deep inside my head. I had seen that movie when I was young, and I mean very young. Maybe 3 or 4. It was one of my first memories and I was never able to remember its name. At a certain point, I almost thought it was a fake memory and the movie didn't even exist. Second I read you mention the title this tidal wave of memories flooded my head. Unreal dude. Thank you. Seriously.
- JoeHague, on 09/06/2009, -2/+26I couldn't disagree more. The animation is still better than most 20+ year later. The story is timeless/
- workharderscum, on 09/06/2009, -0/+24Smacksaw, thats because everything Disney does is carefully pushed through the marketing and legal departments, where any trace of spirit is carefully removed
- queenofpainting, on 09/06/2009, -0/+24Dugg! Easily my favorite film of all time and has been for 15 years. You gotta love the cat bus.
- h0ly, on 09/06/2009, -1/+25At least it's good to see Paprika getting some attention.
- zabean, on 09/06/2009, -2/+25Surpass Disney? Miyazaki films on that list (Princess Mononoke, Howl's Moving Castle, Spirited Away...) are created by Studio Ghibli, which gives Disney all the video distribution rights to those films.. I don't think Disney has to try and compete with that style, they're the ones putting it out there.
- Myahon, on 09/07/2009, -0/+23I almost cried cause I married my wife from a long distance relationship and it really captured the fear that they don't think about you as much as you do of them and love over distance.
- JoeHague, on 09/06/2009, -2/+24I saw "The Girl Who Leapt through time" recently and I would recommend it.
- robotbebop, on 09/06/2009, -9/+30Don't expect a list of an anime freak masturbating to be historically accurate.
- EatingPie, on 09/06/2009, -10/+31I've seen every one of these except 5CM. I am a fan of all forms of animation, though my preference is for cel.
I'm sorry, but to say anything on the list has surpassed *Sleeping Beauty* is overstating the case by light years itself. This is the single greatest work of animation ever made, in any country, in any time.
The list really confuses story with animation artistry. Cowboy Bebop had good story line (though not as good as the show), the animation had moved beyond its for-television minimalism, but not tons and tons. To compare the art of Cowboy Bebop to something like Lion King is not being honest at all.
The other issue is that art is art, and style is a matter of taste. I do not like Miyazaki's style, and became tired of his formula. However, the evolution style in Ghost in the Shell, from the Manga, the first and second movies, to the Stand Alone Complex was very appealing (it got better with each iteration). I even prefer the animation style of Cowboy Bebop over anything Miyazaki has done. But that's my preference.
-Pie - magily11, on 09/06/2009, -3/+23Paprika gave me nightmares. Total ***** of a movie.
- drmangrum, on 09/06/2009, -6/+25Apples and oranges. Disney films are animated, they aren't anime. They're two completely different styles and genres.
It's like trying to prove that modern abstract sculpture is better than classical sculpture. - emailowndme, on 09/06/2009, -1/+20I should have been more specific. The graphic novel came out in the 80's.
- dbhalla, on 09/07/2009, -1/+20You know you're a digger when you talk about porn and irregular grammer in one comment.
- Jeebugorn, on 09/06/2009, -1/+19agreed for vampire hunter d and ninja scroll
- HackieWackie, on 09/06/2009, -4/+22Spirited Away was FANTASTIC!! probably one of my favorite anime's - Should have mentioned My Neighbor Tortoro, Ninja Scroll and maybe Tekkon Kinkreet - but yes, a good list!! Going to bookmark and see the rest which I haven't =D - thanks for sharing.
- twiztidsinz, on 09/06/2009, -0/+18@Falldog:
You also have to take into account that, aside from Grave of the Fireflies, its the OLDEST movie on the list by 7 years.
If the Akira movie was a person, it'd be legally able to drink in the US.
Cowboy Bebop was made many years after the series ended. If you didn't know about Cowboy Bebop by that time, the movie really wasn't targeted at you.
@socivitus:
If they follow the manga? yes.
If not, then I think it'll be about as good as Keanu Reeves playing Spike Spiegel. - kleichtle, on 09/06/2009, -9/+27Surpasses Pixar too?...Might want to think twice about that.
- ceredron, on 09/07/2009, -0/+18I cried. Not gonna lie, I cried a little and felt depressed for days.
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