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- stoops, on 10/12/2007, -14/+59"Apparently Steve Jobs doesn't care too much for the food at McDonald's..."
Good for him, McDonalds is good for nobody. - alexp2ad, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43Ooh, that'll strike a blow to the popularity of the happy meal... I only buy them for the disney toys!
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39oh, thought i should mention this. I saw supersize me in september, and in the dvd they had some extra scenes. In one, he takes some MCD french fries and puts them in a jar to see if they grow mold. He came back after a few months and they still looked normal while the real potato fries he had in another jar were totally rotten.
I decided to try it out for myself, and ive had a handful of MCD french fries in a cup in my room since september of last year. THEY HAVENT CHANGED AT ALL. They dont even smell. Makes you wonder what the hell they put in em. - Bogtha, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34The article itself points out that Jobs is not a vegetarian, and also explains that "word is that Disney is trying to disassociate itself from high calorie and trans fat laden fast food peddled by fast food giants like McDonald's."
The only link with Steve Jobs is that one lone writer thinks the timing with the Pixar deal is "less than coincidental".
Reported as inaccurate. - Bogtha, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32> Steve is indeed a Vegetarian
Jobs is not a vegetarian. He is a pescetarian. Read the page you submitted, it says the same thing as I do. Your title explicitly claims that he is vegetarian.
The summary said:
> he wants to stop using it to promote Disney/Pixar films to kids.
I see no basis for concluding that in the article. Two paragraphs out of thirty-five mention Jobs, the rest of the article talks about the nutritional value of happy meals, not the meat content. Jobs isn't the story here. You are using the tenuous connection to Jobs and Apple to get diggs.
> If you knew about Steve's background, then you'd come to a logical conclusion on your own
Some random person's guesswork is not newsworthy. - Dracos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Last piece of meat at McDonald's? Meat hasn't been available at McDonald's for at least 20 years.
- geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Oh well... maybe they'll go back to including the Mario toys!
http://toadscastle.net/images/mcdonalds.jpg - boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -13/+31Excuse me, fliped, no interrupting the Two Minutes Hate.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -1/+18I work at McD's in Australia, and if this reduces the customers we have I would so damn happy. 90% of our customers do NOT need the ***** we sell them! Nothing is worse than seeing obese 3 year old kids being fed that ***** by their parents. If you're 3 years old and already obese, good luck losing weight in the future!
- Habemus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Stigma is quite good if battered and deep-fat fried.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21I don't recall there being a Healthy Happy Meal.. they are all lard/grease ridden products.
- dkordik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16"Mcdonalds is good when you make the right choices... i mean any restaurant isnt good for anybody.. its all about the choices you make in your food."
This is not a case of making the right choices. The food in happy meals, the burgers and fries that are marketed to kids with the Disney toys, are very unhealthy. Even McD's new "healthy" foods are only marginally more healthy choices, but that doesn't enter into this discussion as they are not part of Happy Meals. - soogy, on 10/12/2007, -23/+35I sure hope it does strike a blow to McDonald's. How fat and disease-ridden does the population have to get before we stop this madness? Now this is something that Jobs has earned my respect with.
- TheRappingShoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@ Abbott 75 ("McDonald's is actually an important part of the economy. They also provide valuable training for the worlds youth." )
Companies like McDonalds benefit from the 'training' they give low-skilled young people.
Typically they are subsidised by government to 'train' people for the early period of their employment, but the turnover of staff at such fast food places is so quick that most have left before or shortly after their training period is complete (usually only to join another burger place, and undergo 'training' again).
The result is that it costs McDonalds et al less than minimum wage to employ staff. - rhizome, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Fine then. Since I try to eat healthy and buy quality food you can go ahead and call me a vegetarian who eats fish, beef, pork and chicken.
- Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15@drizek
Whatever they put in the fries is GOOD! Those preservatives are immortal!
Sorry, couldn't help but say it. Go ahead and rate me down, it happens in every other thread I post in anyways.
I strive to be the "least agreed with" person on Digg. - rakslice, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15I went into a recently-opened McDonald's in the new big box cluster part of my town the other day to pick up a flurry, and I realized that I hadn't been in one for almost five years. It wasn't quite like I remembered. Everything seemed subtly alien, from the bizarre new menu choices and bizarre new promotions with unusual colours, to the clear sight lines to the really small food preparation area behind the counter. But I was able to maintain -- until, that is, the motorized garbage receptacle thanked me in an electronic voice. Then I ran out... rather quickly.
- WiZZLa, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17That is a weakness within yourself. You aren't a vegetarian because of a "stigma" associated with it? Well then you weren't a vegetarian for the "right" reason anyways nor did you believe in it; it wouldn't be surprising if you stopped eating meat because some celeb was doing it and you decided to join in. Well, on to the next trend twertyto, I'd suggest Scientology, it's popular right now.
- Bogtha, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18Sorry Cliff, but people who eat meat are not vegetarians.
> Steve have often considered himself a "Vegetarian who happens to eat Fish"
Note that the article you link to in your comment doesn't claim Jobs characterises pescetarianism in this way; that is the *article's* explanation of pescetarianism. An incorrect one. If you eat animals you aren't a vegetarian. - iheartbeer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Way to stick to your principles.
- arizonagroove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Disney!=Steve Jobs.
The article offers absolutely no evidence that Steve Jobs had anything to do with the decision. It's just idle speculation of someone looking for a celebrity angle in an attempt to make a mediocre story exciting.
I can't help but wonder if this story only go on digg because ZDnet slapped a DIGG THIS! link on it. - eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13A wise man once said that "A hamburger may be bad for the body, but it is good for the soul." It needs to be kept in perspective. A once in a while trip to McDonalds wouldn't be bad. Daily visits would be. In addition, McDonalds has been trying to listen by offering healthy alternatives to the hamburger. Also, regular supermarkets sell tons of unhealthy junk food too. So I think some of the criticism is valid, some of it a bit harsh.
When the day is done, people have to be responsible for their own food choices. This really could be said for anything though. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12yes, nothing they sell is good for you(with the exception of the bottled water i guess). Their salads have more fat than their burgers cause of all the ranch/chicken they put in em.
- tigertiger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"McDonald's is actually an important part of the economy. They also provide valuable training for the worlds youth."
Training them to do what, flip burgers?
"In addition, McDonalds has been trying to listen by offering healthy alternatives to the hamburger."
As mentioned their 'healthy' options are little better, and in some cases wors than, their burgers. - JohnTheLutheran, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Oh, and cyclomedia: I'm pleased to tell you that British chip shops now usually use vegetable fat for cooking their chips, rather than lard. So you can scoff away with a clear conscience. ;-)
- orbitalleader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Original story so you don't need to go through the blogspam:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mcdonalds8may08,1,1059324.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
It doesn't sound like Jobs had anything to do with the decision. Disney offiials did express doubt about using Happy Meals as a marketing tool because of dietary concerns, and McDonalds said they weren't sure about being tied down to one company. It was an amicable parting of ways.
Always go to the source and ignore the blog spin. - underburn, on 10/12/2007, -11/+17id go to mcdonalds for mario toys any day.
- DanAtkinson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5As it clearly says in the article, Steve Jobs is NOT a vegetarian, but a pescetarian, like me.
Did you actually read the article in full before submitting it? - Haplo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"How fat and disease-ridden does the population have to get before we stop this madness?"
Has little to do with the food, but a lot with general eating behaviour. Eating one burger in a month isn't going to harm you. Stuffing 4 in your face, just after drinking a liter of soda isn't a good idea. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11theres nothing word nazi about it. If you dont eat meat, youre a vegetarian. If you do, youre not.
- Miyazaki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I find it odd that Disney is trying to distance itself from fatty foods like...well, any fast food place on the planet. Mainly, beause at Disney World(in Flordia) they have shacks all over the place that sell only McDonalds french fries.
They were damn good too. - plaunie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"When the day is done, people have to be responsible for their own food choices. This really could be said for anything though."
True - but how can we expect a five year old to be responsible, disciplined, or mature enough to make an informed choice when he has been constantly bombarded with media and advertising that has been designed to elicit sub-conscience responses and the only thing he has been taught (programmed to think?) is that McDonald's tastes good, and he will "fit in" with society if he eats there. (...the 'its cool factor' in advertising)
The response to that argument is that the parents should make the decision; but those parents (now) grew up either before anyone realized that the problem existed, or have also been programmed, since their childhoods', with the same media and advertising. How can anyone expect that they make an informed choice either? - playerZero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@UberNick - i feel you, i didn't eat any meat or dairy for about 10 years, right now i eat some cheese and a few times a year i end up eating fish - i don't even bother trying to call it anything, we all have different eating habits, for a while it was useful for me to have a "rule" but now i don't find that as useful as just trying to be intelligent about what i eat, and eat in a way that is consistent with my general principles, beliefs, and goals. so fine. i'm some dude who eats whatever it is i eat, and no one gives a ***** really what principles i have behind it. dunno what the word is for that.
in other news, pesca != vege, and jobs' mention in the article is speculative, not confirmed fact. for these reasons, as i feel we should hold digg's front page to high standards, marked inaccurate. although it is a very cool article. just ought to be labeled properly. - localzuk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I am a vegan - this is defined as someone who doesn't eat anything, or use anything (within possible ranges of course) that is from animals. This includes poultry, fish and mammals.
Why are you trying to argue that people who eat fish can be called Vegetarian? Are fish a vegetable? No :) (that is a vegetarian society argument BTW). Think about it this way - does the fish live, have a brain etc...? If so, it is an animal. It is primary school level biology. You are either being obnoxious on purpose or are in your own little fantasy world. - RomeyRome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Good job parents. You need Jobs to keep your kids healthy.
- ericmoritz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A Vegetarian does not eat animal flesh
A Vegan does not eat anything produced by an animal including it's flesh
Anything else is neither.
I find it annoying when people that eat birds or fish call themselves a vegetarian. If you bite into the flesh of an animal, you're not a vegetarian, simple as that, stop trying to be something you're not.
It's all a status thing, people want to identify themselves as something unique. I don't eat meat but I rarely identify myself as a "Vegetarian" because I don't use that to validate my existence or use the title to make me feel important. - kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"they are trying to imprint a brand on young minds to ensure repeat custom as these children grow up. "
agreed. i've always found MacDonalds marketing to children to be highly creepy. kids need good food, as part of growing up - peddling crap junk food to them is morally dubious. - mcnicks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4They say that obesity is the new smoking. In that light, I suppose you could consider putting toys in happy meals morally equivalent to putting a few cigarettes in there .. you know .. for kids. Perhaps that is a bit extreme, but it is worth noting that the only reason the toys are in there is to make it more difficult for parents to refuse to buy their kids McDonald's meals. They are trying to imprint a brand on young minds to ensure repeat custom as these children grow up. The fact that it is worth a billion dollars to McDs should give us some pause for thought.
- alexp2ad, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8It was a joke ThinkBox, lighten up.
In fact, I don't even go to MacDonalds at all. - starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i hope others follow the lead. the food just so sucks in this country. we're worried about drug use when people are eating themselves to death with high fat, sugar... lets have a war on the stuff they don't need to put in food that kill way more people every year than pretty much all other things people do that could kill them.
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is good...
It takes away another hypnotizing method McDonald's uses to get kids to eat their food. - pilot3033, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In reality they are all copies of Carls Jr. ("Fastfood Nation"). Which in part is a copy of In n' Out.
Would love to see Disney work with a "healthier" company though. - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Cliff, I'm sorry but you're hallucinating. Being the "Biggest" shareholder is not the same thing as being the "Majority' shareholder. Does Steve Jobs have some influence at Disney? Yes. Enough to overcome the desires of the rest of the shareholders? No ***** way
- eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Probably not as bad as those "candy cigarettes" that were around when I was growing up.
I have a hard time making the connection between a happy meal and lighting up. - scheper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3MacDonalds is good for reminding you why you went to college, or what would have become of you if you hadn't.
- JohnboiWaltune, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Training them to do what, flip burgers?"
No, to obey and follow directions in exchange for cash. - jcdickerson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think this story is bogus - a more reasonable explanation is in an article at http://www.jimhillmedia.com. Besides the health and litigation concerns, the deal with McDonalds was probably not helping the Disney properties they were intended to promote, so instead of renew the contract they ended it.
- mattyparanoid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I find it hilarious and a bit scary that some posters are bashing McDonald's as if they are evil because they sell food that people like so much that too many of the population are over-indulging in it to the point of obesity.
McDonald's doesn't make people fat, people make people fat... - DASK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Subway is great if you remember not to load it up with mayo, ranch or southwest sauce... seems lots of people do, and instantly you are into the same calorie/fat territory (a little better though).. At least there are tons of real veggies in it :)
- ElectricKetchup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2VeganG: ... I don't think their buns were vegan. And anyways, they never did consider their veggie burger "vegetarian" because of the ammount of cross-contamination at that place
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