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- sbassin, on 10/10/2007, -4/+60Um... would the right answer be, "not consumers"?
- D3koy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+33I know Disney went with Blu-Ray, so I'm thinking Blu-Ray may run away with this one...but then don't trust me I bought Betamax and a Dreamcast...
Dugg for the picture... - ryanwarnersteel, on 10/10/2007, -8/+23The format war: undecided
Consumers: losing - deaftly, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19The 360 plays at 1080p also dummy, whats so bad about 1080i btw?
- mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Betamax was more compact, had better picture quality, and was the better format over all.
HD-DVD is fine for movies, but pretty soon our computers are going to need a lot more storage than what HD-DVD has to offer, that's why I want Blu-Ray to win. - maybeinoregon, on 10/10/2007, -7/+17I own HD DVD because of the 360 - but who cares? - we will be streaming video - regardless of format - long before either of these products reach the top of their life cycle bell curve -
- SanTe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I know people like to argue that we'll all be streaming content so both HD DVD and Blu-Ray are irrelevant, but I think that is far from likely to happen. You think Comcast, Cox, Verizon, AT&T, etc., are going to stand for our streaming HD video over our internet connections without a) their exhibiting control over what content we have access to because they've cut deals with content providers, and b) our paying *much* higher ISP subscription fees to pay for the bandwidth? They're so busy fraudulently oversubscribing their lines, over selling their promised bandwidth, and trying to kill torrents right now I'd really love to see the crystal ball that shows we'll all be living in a video streaming nirvana any time in the next 10 years.
The only way I see HD streams taking off in the U.S. at any time in the next decade is if Google lights up their dark fiber and becomes an ISP to force massive change in the status quo. If that doesn't happen, we'll be stuck, eventually, with either HD DVD or Blu-Ray. - Shuk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I think the Internet is the winner of that war my friend.
- nottanner, on 10/10/2007, -8/+17I don't like to admit that I do this, but until a clear victor is drawn I will continue to download rips of both Blu Ray and HD DVD's and watch them on my hi def monitor.
I purchase DVD's, I buy music, but I will not spend over $1000 so I can watch both formats. - D3koy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13losing
- maybeinoregon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11The two girls fighting - are they going to be released on HD DVD or Blu Ray? - yowza!
- edstate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8You're right. But last I've read ODHD is a ways off... Too big, anyways, for DSL or Cable internet.
- Otto, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9HD-DVD supports 1080p just fine.
So, Harry, I fail to understand your ignorant commentary. Go find your hole and stay in it. - ButterBuddha, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Nice...they included porn studios...
- sankethkatta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5i like the 300 picture http://skattertech.com/2007/08/blu-ray-outsells-hd-dvd-movies/
but then again this article seems to be favoring bluray. according to them 1.6 million blurays were sold for the 1st half of this year while only 97,000 HD DVDs were sold - Otto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Or just get the HD-DVD add-on drive and hook it to your PC. Voila, $179 HD-DVD player.
- deaftly, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10sony formats never win
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Don't forget the games, I'll enjoy those too.
- GliTCH82, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Except for Vivid
- cplex, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6"The audio for Heavenly Sword wouldn't even be able to fit on there."
You keep telling yourself that! - swoosh_bnd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I thought everyone was losing?
- ChildeRoland420, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3They said that HDDVD would be cheaper because they can retool old DVD factories. But then, why have I seen movies where the HDDVD version cost more than the BluRay?
- Kinjiru, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4CD is Phillips invention not sony and the 3.5" floppy was a winner due to *****'s revision of the head mechanism for alignment issues.
- justinlarsen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3On digg you are.
- brianboyko, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Grr... I'm about to start my first Indie feature; since I'm filming in HD, I want to be able to distribute in some sort of HD. Since there's no real affordable HD-DVD burner that I know of, I'm stuck with BluRay.
Don't get me wrong, both formats suck, but I REALLY don't want Sony to win this thing. If they do, soon BluRay will only be viewable on Sony BluRay players, with Sony TVs, Sony Sound systems. Hell, I bought a Canon instead of Sony to shoot the damn movie just to piss them off... - jostheller, on 10/10/2007, -6/+9yeah that cable is a deal buster... I think my HDMI cable at Monoprice.com set me back an entire 4 dollars. Oh and my PS3 came with wifi included, internal Blu-ray drive so I am not cluttering up my shelf, my controllers do not run on AA, I received 6 free BD movies, and it only cost me 450 dollars.
For what it is worth... I am not completely slamming on the 360 but really your attempt to slam on the PS3. Both systems are comparable... I have plans to get a 360 too - iceperson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Tell that to the 3 and a half inch floppy...
- Wuss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2UMMM. Anyone else notice something odd? Blockbuster just recently signed a deal to EXCLUSIVELY rent Weinstein studio movie rentals for the next 3-4 years or so.
According to this article Weinstein is releasing EXCLUSIVELY in HD-DVD.
Finally, as is already well known, Blockbuster EXCLUSIVELY rents Blu Ray.
Not that it's going to change the face of movie rentals, but who the hell at Blockbuster and Weinstein screwed this one up? - khorbin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Is the article seriously comparing the two formats using the number of studios that support each format? That's like comparing the quality of McDonalds vs. Burger King by looking at how many of each are inside shopping malls. Maybe a better gauge would be the number of big movies on each format, or the amount that the movies on each format made at the box office?
Anyway, I suddenly want a cheeseburger... - RevilExtreme, on 10/10/2007, -5/+7Well, I've got 300, An American Werewolf in London, Army of Darkness, Children of Men, Cinderella Man, The Departed, End of Days, The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, Goodfellas, King Kong, Land of the Dead, Letters from Iwo Jima, The 40-Year-Old Virgin, Hot Fuzz, Pitch Black, U-571 and Unforgiven in HD DVD. None of those films are from Paramount Pictures, but I know I will be getting Transformers in HD DVD because it won't be on that other format when it is released.
- cockmaster, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4who buys porn on disk anymore, sorry but this is a REALLY misguided argument
- SanTe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3"but then don't trust me I bought Betamax and a Dreamcast..."
At the least, you have good taste. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3The 360 had these games first. I've had my 360 since November and has yet to give me a single problem. Most of the PS3 games hit the 360 first, and get higher ratings.
- bmson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4and CD
- pixelate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4The audio for Heavenly Sword *in eleven languages* wouldn't even be able to fit on there.
/fixed - GliTCH82, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That's not entirely true. Only with our generation, but the older generations still buy porn on discs.
- dysonlu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This game between those big companies is called leveraging their power of negotiation. Some movie studios don't want to see Sony win so quickly and decisively because that would mean they get the short end of the stick in license fee negotiations and the like. Since the current size of the HD market is so tiny, relative to DVD sales, these movie studios see very little financial risk with the decision of exclusively supporting one format; nothing stops them from singing another song 12 months from now.
- GliTCH82, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4It's You-Suck, not Yu-Suck. Oh, Sony's so cool for leaving the E off the world blue...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You're right. With possibly billions on the line you'd think one of them would be smart enough to just take the hit and release a cheap player now before it's too late to play catch up.
- ninjakoala, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What people tend to forget is that part of the reason why the porn industry chose VHS back in the day, was because VHS was cheaper to produce for and cheaper to buy. The same thing is happening now. The battle isn't over yet either way. Once we see dirt cheap players sold in the millions we can start talking about a winner. I'd prefer if it's the less restrictive of the two. Our rights have been eroded enough as it is - and let's face it: Sony are used to losing format wars, so they'll probably not even be hurt any more.
- rento, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Just buy any format. Yes one them will have to loose in the end but it will take years. By then you will want to buy another HD player anyways.
I ve gone BR just because Sony has made the most fantastic player (latest BR one) it plays reguar DVDs upscaled to incredible HD quality.
Hurray for upscaling!! - ninjakoala, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The real winner for me in the last console generation was the Dreamcast anyway. It may not have had as long a shelf life, but it ended up with more titles I had to own than the other three combined. Ended up having them all anyway, though.
- dmadzak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Maybe they are exclusive Blu Ray in the stores, but they keep sending me HD-DVDs for rentals in the mail.
- Rooster99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This is probably going to go on for a few more years, and then a really clever hardware developer will come up with a blu-ray/HD-DVD reader/writer in the one unit and then it wont really matter. Plus streaming video seems to be the way to go. I can see media companies selling 'pre-paid' style accounts that give you a months worth of viewing or something like that.
- phogasmic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm not buying one, until the war is decided. A lot of it is principle, this is yet another example of how studios don't care about the consumer. They should make movies for both platforms. Let Sony and Toshiba fight it out on price and features. The one that is going to win, is the first one with afordable recordable Discs, and whose RW drives start appearing on PCs first .
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3People keep on predicting a rehash of the VHS/Betamax war, but forget that there are more competing factors here. For example, each format may fall into a perticular market, perhaps blu-ray for PS3 Games, and computer games/backups, because the burners get faster than HDDVD or something, and HD DVD is cheaper to produce so it will dominate the movie market. This isn't what i'm predicting exactly, but its good to remember that these discs are more versitile than VHS and Betamax tapes, and so solely movie releases is not a great way to judge it.
- Tejiant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1There already exists a Blu-ray reader-writer/HD-DVD reader/DVD Reader-writer/CD reader-writer available for PCs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136124
Also there is a Blu-ray burner for less than $500 already for the PC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827248005
So far there isn't an affordable HD-DVD burner on the market. - Tejiant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1As I replied to Roster99 up there, there's already a Blu-Ray burner for less than $500 available (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827248005), and it is still new first gen technology. I paid $500 for a CD burner when they were near their end of 1st gen wave. Without an affordable consumer option for an HD-DVD burner and also just the massive size of the Blu-ray discs, that is the format I chose to support. Already the 8GB DVDs are slowly starting to be too small for me as I need to back up alot of content of my out of room 700GB (total) drives. If porn is a main concern for the lot of you, download/backup all your porn files and burn onto a dual-layer 50GB Blu-ray disc.
- jostheller, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2it does matter... Blu-Ray is more future proof then HD-DVD... Don't believe what the ladies tell you... SIZE is Important! 50 Gigs is going to give us a lot more high quality content.
- Kinjiru, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@ Jigoro
Technically the most attributed intentor is James Russell. However while Sony was involved in some part for the development they were only a subcontracted portion of the design. Hence why Phillips owns to this day the IP rights for CD-ROM and anyone wanting to use such much license it from them:
http://www.ip.philips.com/
"The standard is not free, and a license (known as an IEC 60908 document) must be obtained from Philips for US$210 as a PDF" -
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